Necro thread, but I'd like to know the answer to @The Stranger 's question too

any way to stop all the randomly generated characters from spawning at all instead of having to prune them? annoying as fuck not a year goes by and i have over 90 useless courtiers, sounds like this mod helps with that.

Only if the dynasty has nobody with land, so it might be pretty rare.

Are people with bloodlines pruned?

Also this mod doesn't work on Player courts! It is AI only as Paradox wrote it Vanilla that way. :(

Wish we could change that!

This mod tweaks an existing Paradox mechanic that automatically removes useless courtiers every month. The description explains the tweaks.

Activate it by checking the mod in the lobby. The rest is automatic.

Make sure these people don't have living family, or honorary titles, or living friends/rivals. Also make sure you are not using mods that also modify NDefines.Diplomacy (the defines.lua file).

how does this mod work? Can you tell us in detail? And how to activate it, otherwise in the game itself, I still have 40 year old people sitting in the yard (sorry for my English)

This is hardcoded. The game always tries to create new courtiers, the most we can do is to speed up the culling.

Is there any way you could stop random new lowborn courtiers from spawning inside a rulers court when the ruler has too few courtiers? So if I eg. kill everyone in my court and am the only one remaining that the game doesn't just create new people

It shouls be timeless, since it only modifies part of defines.lua. Are you using *any* other mods? What is your checksum?

I don't think it works anymore.

nobody:
random duke in siberia: "I should employ 384 courtiers"
this mod: STOP RIGHT THERE CRIMINAL SCUM

mistervvoan try to look for the mod in the folder, if it's there then unsuscribe, delete the folder, suscrie again and it will probably vvork

i did it 10 times doesnt work ;/ annoying buggy platform ;/

I will add a direct download. However to fix that problem (sometimes happens), you have to:

0) Exit then enter Steam
1) Unsubscribe
2) Launch then close CK2
3) Subscribe
4) Launch CK2 again

the mod doesnt download on steam! i tried restarting resubbing etc...can you post on some other site and add url?

@[CPQ]Panxodakilla I haven't run any tests on FPS, but the mod should avoid - and even improve - the slowdown that happens across the centuries, as characters breed and the world population grows.

@mastervovan Pardon me?

doesn't download any third party hosting site?

So how much does this improve performance?

Yup.

Is still working?

That's interesting, didn't know that. Thanks for sharing!

Hey Enriador, I figured out the death date thing. Each character recieves their own random event day of the month that always happens to that character. That's why if a child is born on the 10th of a month, all his siblings born to the same mother will also be born on the 10th. The mother will also die on the 10th if that is the case. Not necessary knowledge, but hey I figured that out.

ah, okay. thank you! seems someone in the forums posted some nonsense

Pruning affects every court, including the player's. Dynasty members cannot be killed off since they are considered "important".

If you are in doubt over whether someone is important or not, ask yourself:

1) Does the courtier has a Council job?
2) Does the courtier has a honorary title?
3) Does the courtier has a living parent, sibling, child, rival, friend or lover?

Only if you answer "No" to all these questions, will the courtier be pruned.

in ck2 vanilla pruning only applies to AI courts, the player court just gets affected by negative health and fertility. does this apply pruning to the players court?

also anyone know if this will kill your dynasty members off? id rather not do that lmao

I'll do that next time I play CK2. Thank you, for both the explanations and the mod itself.

Should be about it. Try inviting a random character without family or titles or claims to your court using the related decision. Click on the guy's portrait and wait a couple of months to see what becomes of him.

So if I understand this correctly, the ones it kills will die on the 1st day of each month?

You get the "Courtier has died of natural causes" if your message settings allow it.

The mod actually uses vanilla's own pruning system, only making it more strict. It's automatically done by the game every month. Any character considered useless by the game - aka no parents, siblings, lovers, friends, rivals, minor titles, councik jobs etc - are removed from it.

This mod should work with any mods that don't affect defines.lua's related setting.

So when this mod removes someone in your court, do you get the normal "so-and-so has died" notification? And how often does the mod check for useless characters to eliminate?

I've had this mod in my playthroughs forever and still don't know how or if it works.

@Antronix There aren't any. This mod modifies how the behind-the-scenes engine runs; it automatically seeks out useless characters under the parameters described above and kills them off silently.

>Rulers count as important as well, right?

Naturally.

Rulers count as important as well, right?

@TheMediCat

>What makes someone count as 'connected' to important people?

Any direct relationship - children/parents, friends/rivals, lovers/spouses. I am not sure about fellow dynasts (e.g. grandchildren, distand cousins, etc) but I believe they aren't touched.

>who are 'important' people?<

Anyone who has a council job, a honorary title, is married, has children, has friendships/rivalries, etc.

For example: if you assign a random Courtier A the title "Master of the Horse", Courtier A will become immune. If another random Courtier B becomes rivals with Courtier A, then Courtier B will also be immune to prune.

What makes someone count as 'connected' to important people? And who are 'important' people?

Updated!

@Nefarius, thanks for letting me know. The 2.8.3 patch probably broke it - I will update soon.

It doesn't do anything for me unfortunately, playing on the latest patch and have 110 characters in my court. :/

I forgot this existed but this is so useful cause I hate going through 40 people just to find that one claimant I have

Glad to be of help. If you bump into any problems let me know!

Thank you for your great mod.

@Sauron

I have updated the mod. Try it and give me feedback if possible.

i think the new update broke it ):

@Sultan I have to check if 2.8.1 patch broke it.

@LazyJohn No, a dead parent isn't considered.

Would a dead dad be considered as an important person? I just had a war and half my vassals died from it, so I have lots of kids in my court

Also i should add i advocate trying games pirate if there is no demo to try before you buy. Let me stress people should buy but there have beenmany games i have played that were not worth the download.

It was actualy a joke but i admit not that funny. I dont give a shit if someone pirates and if im honest the way PDX is going these days they deserve to be pirated as much as possible as releasing DLC every 5 days thats over priced and under quality is wearing thin.

Never take anything a person says who has Trump standing on a tank as his avatar is a good rule.

@thelazygun2001 , it says CK2 on his steam account. So seems like he does have a legit version buddy.

priyon, i concure.