Thanks, I'm glad to be the one to have finally rid you of your cause of distress haha.

You're good man. That's bugged me for YEARS. No-longer updating this mod, but it's nice to know what it was that messed it all up.

Hello, I made a mod inspired by this called "Less Angry Powerful Vassals". This mod might not be working due to the capitalized "C" of the "common" folder in the mod files, uncapitalizing the name of the folder may solve the issue. I've noticed that this mod uses an outdated "00_opinion_modifiers.txt" file that might not contain the latest updates. Thank you for this mod SaltyStoryteller, please tell me if you'd want me to delete my mod.

Upon looking at the mod files I too am confused as to why this doesn't work. I do notice that that there is an extra .mod file in the zip however.

Any chance of an update?

Update?

@LoZ_Collector try using the steam hosted version instead of your internal build. Maybe the steam hosted version was corrupted or something.

Ironman?

it worked for awhile, and then broke. no update or DLC change in between. I havent reinstalled, buf if that returns it to working order, maybe that helps you in some way figure out the issue?

I have no idea what the hell's going wrong. All my tests have it running just fine in my version! Sorry folks, I think this might be beyond me.

Hmm still doesn't seem to be working. Hope you figure out the issue soon because this is a good mod :D

it hasnt been working for me for awhile now. ive tried uninstalling/reinstlling it too, nothing.

Not working for me at the moment either mate

Has there been an update lately? This should still be working unless there's been a substantial change...

Dosent seem to work

I'm also having the issue of it not working. Not the end of the world for me, but I figured I'd comment here so the dev at least knows this is still an issue.

This doesn't seem to work with HIP. The opinion malus is still -40.

Thanks for this !

the law system is bonkers as well if you want more men in the army then it is at cost of less tax do want more tax less men that is a deal breaker for me i like the old law system better will you work on that

If I'm not mistaken, you can also do modifiers based on titles or relative strength. I'm not a modder myself[Scripting just defies me], but, from what I've been told from some of my friends who do, having a relation modifier based on relative strength is possible.

@Typhus Adelbert Steiner
We're discussing the possibility on how to incorporate it into the rate of penalty for council rather than a flat -40 for all regardless of traits. Meaning it could and SHOULD still be taken into consideration for conclave.

I believe ambitious and envious vassals already have a negative opinion for any liege at any given time. It's why it's not taken into account for the conclave "not on council so I pout" relationship malus.

Making the powerful vassal effect do more than just check one variable and modify another is going to take some serious work, but I like the idea of making ambitious, proud or envious vassals more dangerous to leave displeased, while content or humble ones don't mind so much if they're snubbed.

I'll look into this and see what I can do. No promises mind. Oh and if you have the misfortune to end up with a vassal who has a whole bevvy of negative traits, you might find him an even bigger problem than in vanilla! Hopefully, the rest of your council being less troublesome will help offset that.

I wonder if maybe a vassal with an Ambitious trait may still get a -40 thus indicating their annoyance with your Lordship. Great work though thank you!

Paradox's way of fixing this kind of mess is by using traits. For example if vassal is content, then -0 and if he's ambitious then -40 and if he's none then -20.

Have you thought about maybe having the opinion modifier scale depending on how powerful the vassal is? To me it makes sense that a powerful duke would be more "miffed" that you don't let him in on important decisions than some count or even a baron.

I realize that that would be more work than just changing a "single digit in the code" (your words :), and you might not have time or motivation for it. Currently it feels too much like a cheat to me.

You're right... maybe a -30 would be better.

I had no idea this would be so popular. I literally changed a single digit in the code-! I'm glad everyone likes it though. I figured flat-out disabling the modifier would be unrealistic, as your powerful vassals SHOULD want a space on your council, but the full -40 modifier meant it wasn't even a choice; you HAD to have them or face a rebellion. I'm still not sure if -20 is right though, even if it does make it more of a choice.

This is perfect. I have played without conclave for about 750 hours and I can finally use the economy changes again without the fucking -40 modifiers everywhere!

Good idea, and I love the name!

I've searched for a way to nerf the powerful vassals thing for quite a long time, thanks!

a.sgorbini - This is not an issue with the mod, but with the somewhat unreliable nature of the Steam workshop in general. Try restarting your computer, unsubscribing and resubscribing, restarting Steam again, clearing your download cache, and so on and so forth. There's nothing the mod author can do to fix this.

I subscribed, restarted a game but it's not working ;(
what shoudl I do/check to fix it?

really what's broken is the way the like/dislike number influences vassals to join factions. why does my gluttonous dull, and slothful duke who hates my guts belong to EVERY faction against me? he's stupid, fat, and lazy. one can hate a politician with every ounce of one's soul and also not feel inclined to march at every protest. just don't expect my vote for your preferred heir when the next election comes up around. and sure, you can use some of my levy. i'll be sure to let them know you need them as fast as soon as I finish eating. and maybe when it warms up a bit. so cold out there. am I behind on my taxes? gee, i guess the check got lost in the mail.

What's even more odd, I don't see why such a major opinion modifier is in affect if the council power was abolished. I understand that it gives a decent prestige bonus, but for an extra like 2 prestige per month isn't something to feel entitled to.

I do understand why it was implemented, to have op councils (most of the time) have penalties. It also represents how much power the medieval vassals truly had over kings. The dukes paid some of their income and provided soldiers during war, while the king defended the land using his own alongside levies of other dukes. The expecations of what leaders provided to their nobles was expected, rather than the people of a nation.

This is a pretty good mod, the -40 opinion modifier can be especially murderous if one of your vassals somehow has even a faint weak claim to one of your titles - put that -40 + -20 modifier for being a title claimant and you have someone who not only is a scheming traitorous mofo - but also a scheming traitorous mofo that is plotting to murder you and your children!

It's unrealistic that as a mighty count, a mayor feels entitled to a position on the council despite a liege's income coming from trade and he can't even provide crap soldiers. Good mod, my man