there will be a new overwrites mod for "Extra Ship Components 3.0"

@sto030 on the main mod page for 3.0, he said in the comments that he is working on the overwrites but needs to wait till he has some assets completed so fallen empires work correctly.

please update to 2.2 :)

it should be save-compatible, but I'll investigate

yes, but I was already 60 years when I found the override

@Tsunatus, do you have the base mod installed AND active?

Is this mod save compatible as I can't add this into my game as it crashes when it tries loading my save.

ok thanks

You don't have to install this mod. It's an optional (but useful) modlet. It upgrades FE, crises and lets the game automatically upgrade vanilla components into ESC components where applicable.

But it will not work without base ESC

It is not clear to me why I had to install this module (I'm using "Extra Ship Components 2.0"). It is necessary?

Only vanilla 5

Fallen Empires Expanded just updated - do you happen to know if this mod will update the new FE types they've added, or only the vanilla FEs?

What happens if i use this with ZotFE?

Will the grey tempest be gettating a ESC upgrade, as they are just a bit too easy atm.

tmonahan23 yes thats what this mod does, it gives Extra Ship Components' weapons to Fallen and Awakened Empires (and Crises).

will the fallen empire hace access to these weapons?

Okay

strikecrafts one, I think.
but such conflicts are really hard to avoid when you start overwriting vanilla files. One of the reasons why this mod exists in the first place is to make the primary mod as compatible as possible by making it NOT modifying any vanilla files.

@NHunter, your overwrites mod conflicts with NSC2 as they overwrite some files too.

Original game files. Otherwise there'd be no way to give the Fallen Empires and Crises new loadouts.

Excuse me. I wonder about those files you overwritten. Is it mean original files in game? or just overwritten files in mod of Extra Ship Components 2.0?
Thank you.

Still an awesome mod tho, ta muchly for all the hard work :)

My bad, sorry.

there are no "Optimized Dark Matter Reactors" in ESC. And it's not a question for this mod regargless - all proper ESC components are defined in the main mod.

Hello, awesome mod work! i've just noticed what *may* be an unintended thing, and sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but just to let you know!
The "civilian" ships (construction through to transport) seem to get better energy production from "improved dark matter reactors" than the "optimised" ones - if there's a reason for that like required size for a good DMR, props to you, but i thought i'd mention it just in case.
Posting it here cos it was tech i got from Fallen ships ;)

Hey, it appears that the preythoryn scourge fighters have a speed of 4, so they move abysmally slowly and are basically useless.

Seems it is.

Is it nsc2 compatible?

Man, lot's of Archaon's in this comment section, huh. :p

@Archaeon, maybe. I'll look into it sometime.

Any plans to update the Grey Tempest outfits to use Nanite weapons?

MOD UPDATE/FIX:
- fixed sensors not giving hyperlane sight
- fixed strikecraft and psi/dark matter shields using outdated values

Not sure if this is added by your mod, but in the Scourge crises, some of the ships have a component that has a broken string name, "NHSC_SWARM_STRIKE_CRAFT".

Also, did you see my request about the shields (it sort of bled into my report on the AI)?

I did not touch AI logic, only components that go inside the ships. So, you should probably look for the solution elsewhere - vanilla AI can be ...strange.

You might try using Glavius's AI megamod., if you aren't already. Not sure if it fixes that or not.

Actually, on further investigation with the debug console, the AI has ship designs for battlecruiser, titan, and collosus designs. It just never builds them because it greedly spends it on the first ship class it can afford as soon as it has enough money instead of ever saving up. So in other words, it seems your mod is giving the AI proper designs to work with, but the AI, being the AI, is just derping and being stupid. So, nevermind.

One of the fallen empires in my game, a Militant Isolationist (but now awakened) builds nothing but build only Escort type ships (which I guess are an NPC only version of Destroyers?), and only one design of them. No Titans, no battleships. As you can imagine, this makes their combat effectiveness a bit less than their miliary power would imply. Is this intentional?

I know I asked a while back for normal shields to upgrade into wave force armor shields, and thank you for that. But wave force armor shields are just so strong, they completely obsolete both the cyclonic and citadel shield lines too (unless there is a level 5 of them that I am unaware of).
Is it possible for multiple tech paths to converge to a same "ultimate" goal? If so, should the cyclonic and citadel shield lines also upgrade to wave force armor? That would, for example, help starbases know to equip wave force armor over citadal shields.

Is this JUST the new ship components?

Also are these balanced?

Yes, the debuffs are intended, and I'll be adjusting the numbers if I feel I've made the FE fleet too strong or too weak. Right now, I think that 100-140k is about right (at least, if you aren't using NSC or other mod that adds bigger and meaner hulls).

Read back a bit. (Yes, they are intended, otherwise they'd be stupidly OP. That said though, I beleive the author has said those may not be the final numbers.)

The special combat computers that fallen empires have; are they supposed to be applying debuffs to the ships? Because according to the tooltips, they are applying pretty hefty debuffs to the ship.

Are you having problems with the model for the Contigency starbases (the ones the constructors make not the AI cores). Cause they are appearing as three barreled turrets withy meshing issues for me. I'm only guessing it might be this mod cause it changes their loadout with new tech.

I'm in the process of balancing crises.
as for FE/AFE, 160-200% vanilla seemed like a good value. Was I too far off?

Just my two cents after playing a game where the contingency showed up in a 1k star galaxy: They were op as fuck. sending out nearly 300k fleet stacks while defending with a nearly 900k or so one for each machine world. Awakened Empires were only able to support a few 100-150k fleets and just got completely wiped off the map. I say buff Awakened Empires a bit by knocking off some of the debuffs, and definitely nerf the crisis a good bit.

tbh you can just modifiy it yourself like I do with many mods long as you keep them for personal use only. Just create a new mod folder via the launcher, copy this mod's files over, and go into the FEship computer text file and change some numbers around. Isn't relly difficult or time consuming once you've done it once.

Do you have the version of this that doesn't nerf the FEs anywhere? Masochists like me would almost definitely like that to remain an option.

Hey NHunter.
As I was saying on the main mod's page, the crises strength is a bit too much to handle. I would have no problem with that, but fighting multiple fleets each worth 2 Million is a bit hard. The AI empires don't stand a chance.
But, I don't want to unsubscribe because I want the game to auto-upgrade my ships with your components. Is there any way you can lock certain components from the crises use? If they get the newest technology, they cannot be defeated.
Thank you.

probably I shouldn't have gone to this extent, but yes. Battlecruisers do 1000+ average damage with 40-45% damage penalties. Without NSC ships, they'd be pretty much unbeatable if I remove debuffs.

is this intended? https://a.pomf.cat/oxsoge.png