Sid Meier's Civilization V

Sid Meier's Civilization V

Christian Denominations (Historical Religions)
82 Comments
Tomatekh  [author] 25 Jun, 2022 @ 9:36am 
@BODO Boinker please refrain from disparaging other belief systems in this thread. Regardless of your own personal religious views, LDS movements are largely classified as a form of Christianity and their beliefs overlap with a lot of other Restorationist Christian movements even if those beliefs don't overlap with what some call "mainstream" Christianity (i.e. Nicene Christianity).
kuan51 13 Dec, 2020 @ 6:25pm 
Thanks for adding the mormons! As a former mormon, I think its an awesome addition!
marina44664 21 Sep, 2018 @ 5:36pm 
@scott109 in what way do you mean that they are polytheistic? i can't speak for other groups calling themselves mormons, but the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, at least, is Christain, and does not worshop more then one god. we do belive in other heavenly beings, but we do not worshop them, they are gods family, so to speak. im feeling under the weather now, so i might not make a lot of sence, but i would be intrested in discussing it with anyone who cares to.
HistoryNerdJ2 26 Aug, 2018 @ 2:44pm 
Hey, thanks for adding Mormons. Can't wait to play.
76561198079364607 13 May, 2018 @ 5:47pm 
The Church of the East is all but dead, Oriental Orthodoxy and Eastern Orthodoxy are practically identical except for semantic differences in describing Christ's divine and human natures, Anglicanism is a form of protestantism, and Mormonism is a separate polytheistic religion.
Tomatekh  [author] 1 Mar, 2018 @ 9:35am 
Lutheranism uses the default Protestantism icon because the way the game's files work I can't delete a base game religion or it would cause problems so it needs to be repurposed. As Lutheranism is the largest disticnt branch not counting Anglicanism, it uses the base icon. The Refromed traditions are included under Calvinism and use a different icon.
steido01 28 Feb, 2018 @ 8:24pm 
Why does Lutheranism always get tossed in with the Reformed? Ugh. Totally missed opportunity with Luther's Seal, too. Great logo.
Clancy McFancy 30 Dec, 2017 @ 4:22pm 
Oh, shame.
Tomatekh  [author] 30 Dec, 2017 @ 2:58pm 
@Clancy McFancy
Jehova's Witnesses are planned to be added to the Civ VI version of this mod. I, unfortunately, am no longer able to do major updates to the Civ V version as I lost a lot of the modbuddy files when my old computer died
Clancy McFancy 30 Dec, 2017 @ 2:57pm 
;(
Clancy McFancy 30 Dec, 2017 @ 2:57pm 
Arianism will do I suppose, close enough.
Danwar 30 Dec, 2017 @ 2:53pm 
Alright then.
Tomatekh  [author] 30 Dec, 2017 @ 2:36pm 
This pack only includes the major living splits, Arianism is included in the Historical Religions Complete version of the mod.
Danwar 30 Dec, 2017 @ 2:35pm 
Where's Arianism? It was the primary religion of the Germanic invaders during the Migration period.
Clancy McFancy 25 Nov, 2017 @ 10:42pm 
aw, no jehovah's witnesses?
SpiffyGonzales 11 Sep, 2017 @ 2:39pm 
mormanism aint christianity, they just claim to be.
McDuck 29 Dec, 2016 @ 10:31am 
The mapping to civilizations doesn't seem to have been done. Like when I play Russia or Byzantine, it doesn't select any of the Orthodox churches: it treats it like a civ w/o any assigned religion
Nhaurs 22 Jun, 2016 @ 3:08pm 
Oh ok thank you.
Tomatekh  [author] 22 Jun, 2016 @ 4:09am 
There is a seperate mod for most of the protestant denominations that includes baptist:

https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=274426684
Nhaurs 22 Jun, 2016 @ 12:01am 
what about Baptist?
Looxiio 23 Apr, 2016 @ 7:12pm 
YAY! :D finally a mod that adds my religion: Latter-Day-Saints/Mormonism! :steamhappy:
Tomatekh  [author] 15 Feb, 2015 @ 7:09am 
I'll most likely be revisiting this mod in the future to add more denominations. However, since between all my mods I already add 11 Christian denominations, adding more is lower priority to me than adding denominations for other religions, so I can’t really give an estimate as to when I’ll get to it.
A Dry Cactus 11 Feb, 2015 @ 10:01pm 
It be cool to add Jehovah's Witnesses
Tomatekh  [author] 11 Jan, 2015 @ 10:52am 
XML, SQL, Lua, DLL are jus the various ways to program the mod getting more and more complex as you go down. The first two only really alter attributes already present while the latter two you can use to add entirely new stuff. The problem though is that the AI doesn't really know how to use new stuff you add and outright changing core systems has a tendancy to affect other parts of the game.
DarkKnight 2 Jan, 2015 @ 6:59am 
happy new year.
DarkKnight 2 Jan, 2015 @ 6:59am 
What's lua? What does XML stand for? Please excuse my ignorance.
Its a shame the developers didn't make it easier to make this mod with religious preferences. The only mods I have affecting religion are yours but could it affect other mods? Still, I hope you will still consider expanding the Christianity mods.
Tomatekh  [author] 1 Jan, 2015 @ 10:45am 
The current system does not support more than one preference for a civ. So you can't have a civ prefer say Catholicism, but if that's already chosen then prefer Protestantism. The only way to do it would be to completely handle the founding of religions through lua and ignore the built in XML preference system. However, such an overhaul could potentially interfere with other mods that edit the game's religions/religion system.
DarkKnight 25 Dec, 2014 @ 8:24am 
Happy Holidays. Didn't expect a reply now. You mean its hard to mod a civ to have a second preference?
Tomatekh  [author] 24 Dec, 2014 @ 12:03pm 
In the future I do intend to go back and expand my Christian mods. I can maybe do a Catholic Denominations Pack like I did for Protestantism. Although, I should mention, even if I do it won't do much to solve the Rome chooses Catholic, Spain then chooses Hindu problem. There's no easy way to set a second preference for civs, so unless there's a specific civ that would prefer Greek Catholicism, it would most likley never get chosen by the AI.
DarkKnight 23 Dec, 2014 @ 10:40am 
I know you said that the Maronites and Greek Catholics are in communion with the Roman Catholics but the game still seems unbalanced with so many Protestant mods. Would you consider adding them? Its strange that say Rome becomes Catholic and Spain under Isabella becomes Hindu!
Tomatekh  [author] 18 Dec, 2014 @ 9:32am 
@CrossBow
On the contrrary, these are the largest while also being canonicaly distinct living Christian denominations (if you understand my inclusion of Mormonism as a general representative for Restorationist Christianity).

Almost all other significant denominations of Christianity fall under the category of Protestantism, which I've split up in a seperate Protestant Denominations mod for people who would like to distinguish it further:

https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=274426684

@Scholiast
Protestantism is further split up in my Protestant Denominations pack:
https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=274426684

@roblrich
For various reasons, I've chosen to only split Christianity into living denominations. Arianism would also go unused by any of the official civs.
CrossBow 6 Dec, 2014 @ 8:56am 
You really should add all of them as options, your "research" isn't the best when it comes to the largest denominations.
scholiast 21 Oct, 2014 @ 4:22pm 
No Reformed Christians (Calvinists / Zwinglians / Presbyterians / etc.)?
black eagle 7 Oct, 2014 @ 5:45am 
does it bring theodora (B**tch) to Orthodoxy???????
Cuki2001 14 Sep, 2014 @ 9:14am 
Where is Arianism? The Goths were Arians. Actually Theodora was an Arian the heretic! That's why I hate Theodora being represented as an default Civ leader over Justinian. Just politically correct nonsense.
Tomatekh  [author] 11 Sep, 2014 @ 9:39am 
My goal with this mod was to represent these 7 divisions. As Mormonism is the largest and most known Restorationist Christian movement I included it instead of a general “Restorationism” as I’m not really fond of included descriptors when I can include a specific church (and I frequently had requests to include Mormonism). However, in terms of the scope of the mod, the Mormon denomination here is also meant to double as a general Restorationist Christian denomination even if the individual movements are not in communion with one another.
Tomatekh  [author] 11 Sep, 2014 @ 9:39am 
Generally, there are 5 completely distinct major living doctrinal divisions in Christianity: Roman Catholic, Oriental Orthodox (Monophysitism), Assyrian Church of the East (Nestorianism), Eastern Orthodox, and Protestantism.

Protestantism is more a general term and not a communion, so it can be further subdivided. Anglicanism (6) is related but sometimes considered separate from Protestantism, and the Restorationist Christian (7) movements, although developing from Protestant Churches, are generally seen as doctrinally different enough to be separate (although, again, they don’t represent a single communion).
Tomatekh  [author] 11 Sep, 2014 @ 9:38am 
Re: Anglicanism

I do have a separate Protestant Denominations mod (see link in description) and if you notice I actually decided to include Anglicanism in both. Anglicanism is related to Protestantism as many of its doctrines are directly derived from the Reformation (such as the Thirty-Nine Articles). So, in this regard and in terms of the scope of the game, there is nothing wrong to consider Anglican a Protestant denomination.

However, the Church of England also split off from Rome independently from Luther’s reformation, and many Anglicans themselves do not consider their religion Protestant. A common description is to say it’s in the middle between Catholic and Protestant. So, in this regard, there’s also nothing wrong with considering Anglican and Protestantism separate denominations.
Tomatekh  [author] 11 Sep, 2014 @ 9:14am 
@LionDemocrats

Catholicism is still the most preferred religion in the game, chosen by France, Austria, Spain, Brazil, Poland, Portugal, Venice, Rome, Aztec, Maya, Inca, Celts. (If you're using my other religion mods Rome, Aztec Maya, Inca, Celts have historical native religions instead of Catholicism).
IconaDeFun 6 Sep, 2014 @ 11:23am 
Protestant is really just an over arching term for any Christian denomination founded after the Protestant Reformation brought on by Martin Luther. Infact, Anglicanism can be considered one of the first Protesant religions as it was one of the first denominations, in the original form of the Church of England, to break from the Catholic Church thanks to King Henry VIII. Any post Protesant Reformation denomination that broke from the Catholic Church to make their own denomination (Calvinism, Anglicanism, Lutherism, the Huguenots) are all considered, historically, Protestant. @Mog , I hope this better explains why these denominations on the mod can be considered Protestant, though I do agree that the "Protesant" Churches of today have developed further than their 16th century 1.0 versions into more than just a Catholic Church that teaches something a little differently.
Hodag 5 Sep, 2014 @ 11:29am 
As a former Anglican I dont feel as if they consider themself Protestant or do other Protestants like Babtists. I dont think that its written down as Protestant just not Catholic. Which if you ask the Catholics that means there Protestant. UGH its confusing.
Lordy 5 Sep, 2014 @ 7:52am 
Hang on... Anglicanism is Protestant... Nice idea for the mod though!
Hodag 5 Sep, 2014 @ 7:41am 
LionDemicrats, There are 5 main Denominations: Catholicism, Protestantism, Anglicanism, Orthodox, and Mormonism. Anglicanism and Mormonism arent Protestant denominations, so there arent any Protestant denominations in this mod. As for the civs i think they do prefer Catholicism but the Celts always take it after about 10 turns in. lol
DarkKnight 3 Sep, 2014 @ 5:33am 
I am embarrased by my lack of religious knowledge. Still, if all of the Protestant denominations are included, it would make an innacurate game- Catholicism is still the main Chrisitian denomination by a certain margin. Could civs like Rome, Spain, France, be updated to prefer Catholicism?
Tomatekh  [author] 2 Sep, 2014 @ 7:31am 
Armenian Orthodox is in communion with the Oriental Orthodox churches. The Maronites and Eastern Catholic churches are in communion with Roman Catholicism. The Assyrian Church of the East is Nestorianism.
Michael 1 Sep, 2014 @ 11:34am 
Lion, Armenian Orthodox is covered by Oriental Orthodoxy.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armenian_Apostolic_Church
DarkKnight 1 Sep, 2014 @ 9:58am 
where do the Armenian Orthodox fit in?
DarkKnight 1 Sep, 2014 @ 9:53am 
there are some minor Catholic groups like Maronites and Ukrainian Greek Catholics. Where do the Assyrian and Chaldean Catholics fit in?
Tomatekh  [author] 1 Sep, 2014 @ 8:16am 
Update: No gameplay changes. Mod converted to SQL to ensure better compatability across all my Historical Religions mods. If you need the previous version to continue a save, a download link is at the bottom of the description.
Tomatekh  [author] 26 Jul, 2014 @ 3:42pm 
@Zantonius Hamm

I purposefully only focused on the distinct living branches of Christianity