@Zet_Monster, go to your 'l4d_info_editor_mission' CFG file and delete the line that says:

"survivor_set" "2"

Hit save.
Then, go to the plugins folder and delete the smx file named '[L4D2] Character Manager'.
Now, go to gamedata folder and delete 'l4d2_character_manager' txt.
Finally go the the sourcemod folder and delete the file 'l4d2_character_manager'

You're all good now. Hop in game and should hear the l4d1 soundtracks now, :)

@Tuna Sandwich, Yeah, no problem. Sorry about any confusion.

Why am I still playing L4D2 music (horde music, rescue music, etc) even though I'm playing L4D1 characters in L4D1 campaigns?

¤ gσℓ∂нσυη∂ ¤, alright, then, i guess i'll stick with the add-ons i've already tried. the reason i'm so hell-bent on locking myself at spectator mode is that taking over a bot just to reactivate the specator mode again (numbers 7-8 in my previous message) means that specific bot's stats will always be reset, which means all their kills/actions won't matter except on finale chapters. this other add-on, while it still has its own flaws, fortunately is at least able to keep me on the audience seat for a whole campaign with 8 players and i'm quite happy with it.

you've been nothing but helpful, and i really appreciate all the answers i get. for that, i tip my hat to you. while it's a bummer that this issue remains unsolved, i'm glad there's at least a clear explanation for it. i probably needed the exercise anyway with all the 'manual reactivations'. 😂

thank you very much.

@Tuna Sandwich, Oh no, Yeah. You're okay. Sorry about that, haha. Was simply trying to respond in saying in the nicest way that I don't think there's a clear solution to it. So.. no. Sorry once again.

¤ gσℓ∂нσυη∂ ¤, so uh, does that mean there's no clear solution to my issue? i did try experimenting with some other add-ons while waiting for responses from this thread, and while they're not necessarily perfect, they work pretty well. i just wanna make sure once again if the zip file or the engine being the problem means, again, my issue with this mod can't be helped. don't wanna misinterpret your response or something. 😅🙏🏽

@FREAKY AH dude, Oh, Right... I forgot using Superversus is dumb with that. You couldn't really Fix it, you would have to change player count in main menu to get that to work.

@ganstagrunttt, Yes

can't extract files? says it fails everytime? (am new to this so don't exactly know what im doing wrong)

this work with freind sor no?

The download link of the files dont work says it refuses to unarchive

@¤ gσℓ∂нσυη∂ ¤ I did so and he happens to respawn almost immediately after being kicked, this happens with every bot.

@MichaelGaming101, :)

@¤ gσℓ∂нσυη∂ ¤ Thanks!

is there a mod that add more then 8 survivors tho i thought i saw them on youtube where there was a army of survivors in a match

@Tuna Sandwich, I get what you're saying. This zip of compiled plugins I think messes with the lobby making behind the scenes. Bugs could occur that normal vanilla gameplay wouldn't do, so it could be this zip file that is the problem, Not You. I also know in general that any lobby with sv_maxplayers/l4dtoolz always tends to have some lingering bugs going on that you simply can't fix; the engine's problem.

@toni, open console in-game and type "kick Bill" without quotations and should be good. He shouldn't be able to appear again at all through a campaign/survival mode after you've done that.

@JosuePlays, Great Job.

@MichaelGaming101, Superversus CFG file in sourcemod folder. Change 'l4d_survivor_limit "8"' to whatever you want too.

How to increase the number of bots in survival?

@¤ gσℓ∂нσυη∂ ¤ yeah i got it to work. just when there's 12 of us the game spawns lots of lots zombies and causes the game fps to drop bad lol but other than that its good

is it possible to kick one of the added bots without them instantly being added back into the game? I tried doing it a few moments ago and it just crashed my game, for example I want to kick Bill and keep Zoey, Louis & Francis for the campaign, is that possible?

@JosuePlays, It is possible! Simply create a campaign lobby and invite them through Steam. This method works for up to 4 players by default. Make sure you have the correct tweaks in your CFG's to increase the player limit. No dedicated server is required for basic P2P play. If you're hosting locally (not on a dedicated server), the maximum supported player count is typically 8.

@ciberkid22, The version included in the ZIP is outdated; it's recommended to use the latest stable builds of Sourcemod and Metamod. Signature-related errors (such as those from CSM) can occur when plugins depend on memory addresses that change between game or Sourcemod updates. Updating the plugin’s gamedata files to match your current setup should resolve these issues. Plugin functionality should be restored after you update the versions!

is it possible to play with friends with this, if I host via my peer to peer connection?

Hello! It's my first foray into Sourcemod so I'm still learning a lot about it, but it seems like the version in the archive is outdated?

I've noticed that after installing everything from it, I get the regular "-insecure" warning and sourcemod doesn't work. However, after installing a clean sourcemod/metamod from their website (Latest version 1.12 build 7209), I get the "/bin/server" warning like in the video, and sourcemod works after loading a game! The plugins after merging the addon and cfg directories work for the most part as well, but I assume the csm signature error I get is from changing sourcemod versions.

¤ gσℓ∂нσυη∂ ¤, to put it shortly, here's how it usually goes:

(this is with the 8-people mod on)
1. start a campaign
2. campaign starts, activate spectator mode
3. watch survivors go through a chapter and finish it
4. next chapter loading
5. next chapter loads
6. spectator mode stays on briefly...
7. ...then immediately changes to the "Press MOUSE to play as [Character]"
8. i take control of a survivor, and reactivate the spectator mode again

numbers 7-8 are the ones i wanted to avoid. i want it so that by the time the next chapter starts, the spectator mode stays on forever and not change to the "Press MOUSE" screen. because the "Press MOUSE" screen means i have been automatically reassigned to the survivor team. and i don't want that, i just (again) wanna be a neutral observer by staying on spectator mode the entire time.

@¤ gσℓ∂нσυη∂ ¤, thank you. but i'm sorry, it's still not working. 😭

by the way, you were asking me if my question was related to the mod or just general stuff i want fixed, right? well, it's kind of the former. in a normal 4-people gameplay, if i put on spectator mode, it will stay like that throughout the whole campaign. i get to be a neutral observer, just watching the survivors progress through the chapters. but with the 8-people mod on, that's not always the case. when on spectator mode, after the survivors finish a chapter and the next chapter starts, the spectator mode stays for a few seconds before changing to the "Press MOUSE to play as [Character]" screen. this means i have to take control of a survivor and manually put on the spectator mode again. this goes on for every new chapter. that's what i'm trying to avoid, i just wanna be completely locked in as a spectator without having to take control over any survivor just to put on spectator again. 🥲

@Tuna Sandwich, left4dead2>addons>sourcemod>plugins
Then extract/paste that smx. Into that folder

@Braverewe26, Please be aware of what mods you could be using behind the scenes

Lo intente de todas las maneras posibles y nunca se activo para poder jugar con mis amigos.

@¤ gσℓ∂нσυη∂ ¤, where do i apply the plugin after i've downloaded it?

Specifically when I play as bill probably the other left4dead 1 survivor too but I haven’t checked I just wanna play as bill

My game crashes very soon after I start campaign usually after I leave the “safe” area

Got it. Thanks a lot!

@John, go into your autoexec CFG file and change the line,

bind "=" "say /pickbot

,to whatever you want between those quotations. Then save.

Great mod! Please, I need to know how to change the button "=" to another one?

@Jeli, Grab this plugin; I'm assuming this is a afk bug: https://forums.alliedmods.net/showthread.php?p=2714236

@Tuna Sandwich, for your first question, go to your files, redirect to left4dead2>addons>sourcemod>data. Now open into the CFG File named 'l4d_info_editor_mission', then delete the whole line where it says

"survivor_set" "2"

Hit save and You should be good after that change.

For question 2, I'm wondering if it's an issue you're trying to related here or just a general thing you want fixed. But just download this plugin for that "lock myself on spectator mode": https://forums.alliedmods.net/showthread.php?t=135658

The footstep sound addon you created is also really cool. It makes me feel like I'm wearing some serious military tactical gear. Amazing. Excellent work!

@Tuna Sandwich !afk in the chat

Without a doubt the best addon in history, I recommend it 1000/10🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟

hey, i'm back. i got 2 questions:

1. the L4D2 survivors are always the main set of Survivors even in L4D1 campaigns. is it possible to change it so the L4D1 crew are the main ones in their respective campaigns?

2. for some reason, spectating doesn't go all the way through a campaign. if i start a campaign and put on spectate mode ("jointeam 1"), each time it gets to a new chapter, the spectating just... stops, and it automatically goes back to the "Press MOUSE to play as [Survivor]" screen, as if i joined the Survivor team ("jointeam 2"), even though i did no such thing. this means the game saw me as an IDLE Survivor instead of a spectator. i'm just wondering if it's possible to lock myself on spectator mode without having the game forcibly assigning me to the Survivor team for every chapter like that.

thank you very much. 🙏🏽

i cant get the dam file to open

I have a problem... there's instances where someone or I myself as the host will become spectator. I can join back with jointeam 2 but I'm dead when I do, and after a while I just become spectator again and jointeam 2 doesn't work anymore...

@⚝ Not really going to happen, if the static player is limited to 5 then the 5th player is just going to be random. Its never going to be Zoey alone unless you use a different plugin or method in adding just one player.

I meant changing bill to zoey for a 5 player lobby, sorry. should've been more specific

@⚝ you can change it in the config

cfg/sourcemod/l4d_superversus.cfg and find a line called

l4d_static_minimum_survivor "8"

change 8 to whatever number, maximum is 24


@awfuldown This is to compensate the number of survivors available. If there's low survivor count then the number of specials should tone down. You can counter this by using Competitive Bots from the workshop.

Does this addon also set the max special infected to 8; because I'm getting swamped by duo's of jockeys, hunters, and spitters.

Ain't complaining, just wondering.