its a really cool idea but snipers need a head to shoot so no sadly

I have a v2 of this item, for the people who are seeing this submissipn late.

make the where the head originally was something like a ghost head to cover for that sniper thing even if it's halloween restricted

good idea but maybe put like half a head or baruin for sniper mains or diamondback/amby spies

multiple problems, no head= difficult hitbox, skin is showing, third, we alredy have a headless-ish pyro cosmetic. Sorry but unless you fix these problems, it won't get added.

Sniper: "What the bloody hell just happened?"

Not easy for this...

interesting concept but this hat may make it difficult for snipers and amby spies to get headshots

No problem @Boy♂Next♂Door♂

is it bad that people still think crazy hats HAVE to be halloween only.

Does this affect hitbox

holy shit! i had the exact same idea for the ghost head (i got the idea from the frighteners). I've actually been trying to incorporate it lately, having some trouble, but nearly there! Thank you for the constructive feedback!

This doesn't mean the cosmetic is a lost cause though, in fact I think to make it even better is to leave the skin completely covered in blood and add a GHOST VERSION of Pyro's head.
Kinda like: "Ah! My head's blown off yet my soul still has it! YIKES!" I think that would be really cool to look at and would not only help solve the Headshot problem, but also allow some pretty fun loadout ideas.

Best luck to you and I hope you understand!
Cheers,
Flame

However, this cosmetic does have problems.

There's the obvious "Where the heck's the headshot reg?" problem, exposing white skin even though they're supposed to be unknown and the whole "HALLOWEEN RESTRICTED ONLY thing is nice but ... Well, this is Valve, they're gonna do some stuff.

I really do like this idea and I think it would be a cool idea to further the true fact that: Even in death, you will never know Pyro.

I think the Hollowed Head did this well but I would also like to add another cosmetic from the community called the "Second Gunman" which is sort of the same thing but for Sniper.

Note: This is not a personal attack on the creator, but more or less some constructive feedback on this particular cosmetic and a possible way of how to improve it.

Much like everyone else I have mixed feelings with this cosmetic.
On the one hand, it's pretty funny to see a walking corpse with no head at all managing to shotgun or burn that one Spy down. Although there's a problem that's VERY important to this cosmetic.

This is the PYRO we're talking about, not any other class.
Pyro is specifically designed to be unknown and can often be a "Blank canvas waiting to be painted on", which allows for plenty of creative cosmetic loadouts.

First, I would like to admit that this cosmetic looks very well made. Secondly, it also gives me a good ol' "What if Meet the Spy Blue Spy didn't die but Red Pyro did? vibes.

Uh yeah I know that you give the excuse "It'll be a halloween cosmetic! So it's all good.", but I"m fairly certain Valve isn't restricting any Halloween cosmetics anymore. In addition, while other Halloween cosmetics do mess with the head region some, none do it to the extent that this thing does. My Lord, it'd be awful. Sorry. Looks cool. But I can guarantee you Valve will never implement this. Sorry stranger.

this would be a good sfm/gmod model, but not as a cosmetic

It would be a lot harder to headshot someone with no head to aim for.
My favorite thing about pyro is we know nothing about him/her. but this item shows him/her with white skin.
In short, This cannot be added.

good idea! but wouldn't work so good in game when it's all about reconition and you make part of i'm invisble

This item messes with the class silhouette too much. Making parts of a players body invisible is never a good thing in a game where reconition is everything. If you were to make it something more like the Hollowhead, then it'd be acceptable. But as it is now, it'd be a pay-to-win of sorts item.

Nice item for SFM but not for TF2. VALVe wont add it because if you equip it you wont be able to weare hats etc.

Why you shouldn't play with guns.

I really like this, but I understand the concerns about headshots and confusion. I don't really know a solution for it, but I hope it's something that doesn't obscure the great work you've done. It fits TF2 style really well, and reminds me a lot of Meet the Spy.

He could be lightskin, and valve likes to keep his identity hidden, even his skin tone.

Nice and gory, I like it. It'll also be nice if this was made as a headshot replacement (instead of the shrinking heads that's normally used). Keep up the good work BTW.

This would just confuse snipers and amby spies. I like the concept but, I don't see why this should be added into the game.

i mean...why wouldn't he be white? you seen the rest of the classes? (excluding demoman)

Meet the spy is different on a few accounts.
1) The cosmetic for the destroyed Spy head should be present in either the SFM beta tools or in SFM default. If not, the style is more wet which still stays within the level of detail in TF2. You just added a swirly for the muscle, which is what makes the model unlike TF2's style. TF2 style still preserves droplets and antomy.
2) Although it was spy blown into bits, we could still tell that it is spy and arguably part of his head still stays within the hitbox. Thats the difference.

same thing happened in meet the spy, except it's the pyro

1) Style isn't exactly that of TF2. It's a mix of TOO cartoony, combined with some bits that are too realistic. Looks at how the beheaded cosmetic looks and compare to yours.
2) Best to leave skin as red as the meat.
3) Although this is to look like a generic exploded head, next time, consider keeping "continuity." In other words, take the original model into consideration and deform and influence that one specifically. It's more nteresting to see that the pyro's mask has been unfurled as it is torn, rather than seeing the top completely vaporized with no part of the mesh indicating such.
4) Consider that other hats will be affected by this model, I recommend you add something for the head to be a remnant of the skull. If you want to make it look like their head exploded while maintaining its shape, a balloon version of pyro's head may be your go to method or wrinkle his head up like a raisin. Just in general, trying to figure out how to include his hitbox in the equation.

now we assume pyro is white

yee

I see your concerns, but thank god it's halloween restricted

His hitbox is there, but it really doen't look like it because his head has gone boom.

Yeah, but it still would make it a bit difficult to judge where it's at

His head is mostly missing, so it could be comfusing to players who haven't seen it before.

Ahhh balogne, the hitbox is still there :D

He wouldn't have a head to shoot, making it hard for snipers

How so? I'm curious. Criticism is WELCOME :)

This very cool, but wouldn't this confuse players?