Crusader Kings II

Crusader Kings II

Celtic Retinues
28 Comments
Roofus 19 May, 2020 @ 7:52am 
Do any of these apply to Old English?
Franz Josef 11 Jan, 2019 @ 10:21pm 
also what are the highlanders meant to represent?
Franz Josef 11 Jan, 2019 @ 10:16pm 
you could add Hobelars, Irish light calvary and calvary archers.
alganhar 28 Nov, 2018 @ 5:43am 
Also helps the recurves of the Turks and Mongols were designed for mounted use. Important to note though, even those fantastic bows could not outrange infantry bows. The true advantage of Turkish and Mongol Horse archers lay in their absolutely amazing mobility and years of training, not in any mythical property of the weapons as some try to claim.

Catto 25 Nov, 2018 @ 6:39pm 
true, true.
Valse Griffyre  [author] 25 Nov, 2018 @ 5:24pm 
@Catto
Tell that to the Turks and Mongols
Catto 25 Nov, 2018 @ 5:06pm 
It was also not as accurate, since y'know, riding a horse tends to mess with your aim.
alganhar 14 Nov, 2018 @ 2:14pm 
@Speedyblupi: While you are (mostly) correct, there have been recorded incidences of mounted Longbowmen being utilised whilst still mounted during the 100 Years War period. It was certainly not common, but it was done. It was generally done when speed and surprise were a primary requirement, such as in one case an assault upon a Ford across a river.

So yes, most of the time the Mounted Longbowmen were more akin to later Dragoons, mounted infantry who used their mounts for tactical and strategic mobility and flexibility upon the battlefield but fought dismounted. However, there are cases where they did in fact fight mounted, though the longbow will never be as effective used mounted as you simply do not have the bracing to draw the bow to full draw, so you *will* sacrifice range and rate of fire in comparison to dismounted use.
Speedyblupi 4 Nov, 2018 @ 10:52am 
@Luna Assassin
The longbow was not historically used from horseback. Even if it is technically possible to do so, it doesn't mean it was practical.
That wikipedia page does not say the longbow was used from horseback, it says longbowmen would be used alongside mounted troops.
Valse Griffyre  [author] 29 Oct, 2018 @ 7:34pm 
@Xillan
Tell me about the Old Gods DLC :3
I'll accept your request and make a Pictish Retinue ^^/
Xillan 29 Oct, 2018 @ 6:55pm 
I know and i understand why they are not included, I just have a love for ( and I know I am in the minority here) The Early Middle Ages start date and the Picts in general. so I end up being that guy because everyone forgets they are in the game:steamhappy:
Valse Griffyre  [author] 29 Oct, 2018 @ 6:20pm 
@Xillan
They don't exist beyond the High Medieval Era unless you buy DLCs, so I'll probably making a seperated retinue mod for the Picts.
Xillan 29 Oct, 2018 @ 6:08pm 
What about the picts?:steamsad:
GENEMARSHAL SALZANDRAKAN 26 Oct, 2018 @ 5:56pm 
There were mounted archers used in England during the 15th Century, but they fought in a fashion similar to dragoons of the 17th century - namely, using their horses to for added mobility. The longbow is too difficult to effectively use on horseback.
Valse Griffyre  [author] 25 Oct, 2018 @ 7:25pm 
@momentum
Glad you like it :3
momentum 25 Oct, 2018 @ 5:13pm 
finally some love for the celts
Zwei833 the Buggy Modder 23 Oct, 2018 @ 8:11pm 
@Luna Assasssin Thanks! Good to learn new things
Chad Coomer 22 Oct, 2018 @ 3:52pm 
I agree with @Lord Colquhoun , The Irish retinues are a little weak and a retinue with heavy and light infantry would balance it out.
Valse Griffyre  [author] 21 Oct, 2018 @ 6:28pm 
@the High Pinger
It has been recorded to have being used on horseback, but probably extremely rare
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_longbow (check the tactic section)
https://www.quora.com/Could-an-English-longbow-be-used-by-a-horse-archer
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gcpHB-flwJQ
Valse Griffyre  [author] 21 Oct, 2018 @ 6:21pm 
@Lord Colquhoun
There's already a Gallowglass retinue for the Irish culture. The shocktrooper are actually based on the Kerns, but Irish Shocktrooper sounds better XD
Zwei833 the Buggy Modder 21 Oct, 2018 @ 5:53pm 
I don't think English mounted longbow existed in history, any reference?
Brave New Tarkil 21 Oct, 2018 @ 11:14am 
This is a little pandantic, but you could add a unit for the Irish and rename the shock trooper retinue.

Kerns - light-infantry usually acting as skirmishers
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kern_(soldier)

Rename shock trooper to
Gallowglass - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gallowglass

Sorry to be pandantic; thanks for the mod.
Valse Griffyre  [author] 13 Oct, 2018 @ 4:55pm 
@Cooltater
Oops, my bad. And yes, it's 400 light infantry, thanks for pointing out! ^^
Cooltater 13 Oct, 2018 @ 7:04am 
In Highlander portion you list heavy infantry twice but I figured the light infantry would be the 400 troop count.
Valse Griffyre  [author] 12 Oct, 2018 @ 10:44pm 
@-TKS- ₲ⱥꝟɨ₦ [SOTR]
You're welcome!

@Soviet_WaffenSS
Cool, now I'm thinking of buying the Sunset Invasion DLC XD
801 TTS Airbats 12 Oct, 2018 @ 10:19pm 
horse archers in england
time to fuck up the aztecs now!
Gavin ツ 12 Oct, 2018 @ 6:15pm 
Thanks!
Valse Griffyre  [author] 12 Oct, 2018 @ 5:11pm 
@-TKS- ₲ⱥꝟɨ₦ [SOTR]
By English means just the later English culture, Anglo-Saxon culture not included