Hey if it helps, this mod is integrated into Doge's Shattered Europa

Merci pour ton mod !

Damn, I keep seeing you everywhere online o_O

Don't worry, you just need a basic text editor eventually.

@MaitreKorda pretty new to PC but ill give it a shot myself hopefully it works out

@PandaExpressIREpc Give it a try.
Worst case scenario you can probably update it yourself with ease, the files are easy to unpack and edit. I can tell you how if you really want to try it.

just bought the game now and I would absolutely love to play this mod, but can anyone tell me if it still works before i subscribe to it?

You think paradox even listens to our concerns no they don't care. They want money over all things witch is why content that should be in the base game is sold in the form of a $20 dollar DLC. Its not going change anytime soon unless we do something. Thats why im not buying any new paradox products no CK3 or Imperator and dont get me started on the new launcher i could go on for hours about that. Now that im angry im gonna go play total war and burn some settlements good day.

Haven't played EU4 in a bit, had no idea they made that change, what the hell is their reasoning?
Anyway, completely reasonable, hopefully they make up for the mistake and you come back.
Otherwise, wish you the best, thanks for having updated the mod so far.

WARNING: This mod is NOT going to be updated anymore.

I am very sorry to those who like it, but as you noticed, Paradox new launcher absolutely don't allow mods to be played if they are not strictly up to date with the last version.

I chose to not update it for personnal reasons: I simply don't have the time to change that number whenever Paradox wants it.
But also in defense of others: All those modders who made mods but had to stop maintaining them for various reasons: game unistalled, life changes, no computer, etc.

There should be no reason for modders and players to be limited by version when they want to play one of their mods.
Blame Paradox, if you have any complaint, go tell it to them on their forum. Me? Consider me on mod strike until they remove that limitation.

oh- neat. Thanks for the reply

@scurtis94
It's a mix, Tier 1 is Ireland, but I also use models from Scotland and Brittany.

by units from the modpack, you mean the Ireland (IRE) units right? Thanks for replying to me :)

Yes, I used the units from the modpack as a combination.
That's not great but it's the best thing I can do since I don't know how to make models and the vanilla one is simply ugly.

by "cultural units", do you mean using the Ireland (IRE) units, Wales units or some other pack? Love the concept of the mod btw.

Mod updated

Be warned, on next update, the mod will have Rule Brittania as a requirement.
I'm going to put cultural units for the Celtic Empire and Celtic Union.

Not it's not. Neither the Gaelic Highland culture, nor the Northumbrian base lowland culture is "true" Scottish culture. But if anything Lowland culture has a better claim to being "Scottish" simply because that's is what Scotland was built around. p.s But highland and lowland are a result of different peoples expanding, e.g the King of Bencia, expanding northwards, while the Gaelic highland culture was a result of them expanding from Ireland, and the Islands around Scotland.

In the game, Scottish is used to represent English.
Highland is the true Scottish.

Scottish culture is Celtic, Highland may be, but not lowlands.

@bph16702
No, the main reason is that:
-gaelic is not a religion
-druidism has been extinct for thousands of years. It wouldn't make any sense to put it back in the game.
I try to keep the mod semi-historically accurate while allowing ahistorical choices, but I will not change the past or reintroduce a religion that has been extinct.
At best, I thought about creating a church of Scotland for the reformation. But I'll think about that later once I get time.

does this mod add a gaelic or druidic religion

Just so you know, it's not dead, I'm just extremly busy.

Mod updated.

Breizh da virviken

Tiocfaidh ar LÀ

Cool :) let me know if you need some historical help from a welsh perspective

Oh, and something that makes that even disappointing, there are a few decades in the 1800s when the Jacobite Claimant and the sitting monarchs are from the same dynasty, albeit different cadet branches.

As for ideas, technically the Jacobite claim passes to Piedmont-Sardinia, although that is pretty limited and historically only the first two claimants are alive during the time period of EUIV. That also disappointly leads into German dynasties (Habsburgs and Wittlesbachs), at which point it is just one German dynasty or another with claims to the British throne. Bavaria instead of Hannover though. By CK2 standards Germans are winning apparently.

Well, part of my point was that people have storiess about these words that are not real, just like the stories about "Black Irish" being Berbers or Spaniards and things. Just because Ireland and Scotland have more gingers and blonds than most countries per capita does not mean they exclusively do, there are multiple examples of Gaelic figures with names or stories that talk about their dark features from before the Spanish Armada (arguably Duncan and a few Gaelic names with Donn in them for instance, and Cuchalain's story has a whole thing about him, the greatest Irish hero, not looking like the stereotype should, so he stains his face with berries to look like he has a beard).
And yeah, when the languages split, or the nature of the split and the relationship with the continental languages, would probably explain a bunch of this. I do not think we know any of that with much certainty though.

Thanks, but there won't be a update for a while, I have url stuff to do. And I need new ideas and way to think about what I plan to do next.
That is, Counter-Revolution for France/Brittany and Jacobite Rebellion.

Keep up the good work on this mate, looks promising

Again, so sorry @MaitreKorda for hijacking your comments xD. I'll shut up after this.

@Furin Kazan
It would quite remarkable if it entered into Irish from Brythonic that early! Especially considering they have slightly different meanings... I'd consider:
*Goromos -- *Gormos --> Gorm (Gaelic = deep blue)
\-- *Gwrwm --> Gwrm (Brythonic = dusky)
more likely, with the word in Proto-Celtic before Brythonic & Gaelic split (whenever that was). Also note the Gaulish word "keiro" (/"geiro"), same meaning as Welsh.

As for black people being called 'gorm', that is a lovely folk etymology =D, but almost certainly nonsense. The issue is that ~75% of Ireland was already "black" or "brown"; Gaelic languages' use of colours+people almost universally referred to hair colour. Though gorm already had "swarthy" connotations by the 16th century, likely much earlier. Disappointly, it also had devilish connotations, as well (so quite the opposite of your point).

Hmm, seems to be Gorm comes from Gwyrm in Welsh, which comes from Gurm in Brythonic and Gurmos in "Proto-Celtic". Part of that is sourced from Ranko Matasovic and his Etymological Dictionary of Proto-Celtic, which is more modern at 2009. I have not found anything about when that may have happened though. Also apparently there is a belief that the reason black people are called "blue" in Gaelic is to not actually call them black, rude and some relation to the devil. That seems to ignore the whole thing you were explaining and what I have read about the distinction between colours being the darkness of the shade.

There won't be another update for a while, so you are safe to play it without interruption (unless a major bug is reported).

I updated it. I'm now going to work on the Jacobite rebellion.

Maybe it's just both of us! I'm a linguist with an interest in anthropology.

I couldn't speak to E Asian languages, but in Celtic languages, there are distinctions made in the BG spectrum, they just aren't the same as Germanic & Italic. 'Glas' is a muted/natural blue/green. 'Gorm' is a sort of deep caerulean extending into deep greens (you said you speak RU, right? Think синий vs. голубой, but different). Then there is 'uaine', which a sort of brilliant, striking green.

I'm intrigued by the claim of a Welsh origin for Gorm... I can't think of when or how it would have entered into Irish, & can only assume a misunderstanding. MacBain's 1911 dictionary gives "Early Irish gorm, blue, Welsh gwrm, dusky" to show cognates but doesn't mention a loan (but I did finally find 'gwrm' in Welsh! Had to get out my big dictionary ;D).

Indeed on capital info & it is very interesting to hear about the hostage-taking in Japan, the Gaels & Britons had a very similar traditions, as well!

You know, it is a little interesting. The HRE was too decentralized to really have a capital, because it was not really a single country. But it had forms of centralized administration where members would get together to talk and legislate, even if some of that lacked actual enforcement power. Often more of a diplomatic forum tham administrative one. But the actual states themselves often vested all the power within a single individual (specifically dukes here, because the Bishoprics and Free Cities tears this argument down) who was all of the administration themselves and in many ways the capital. In some cases into the 1800s where many German states refused to grant constitutions or powers to anyone outside of the individual monarchs, which led to the Revolutions of 1849 and some divestment of powers (although some of that was a sham, Hannover notably ignored the constitution it had).

Celtic does have that "importance of hospitality" thing, so that makes sense, but England and even Japan had similar things for the monarch. It was an honour to host the monarch (or in the Japanese case often the figurehead), there is something like that for the Shogunate too, the government was actually called the "tent-government" due it's military nature. The Shogunate ruled out of Edo, and the Imperial capital was usually in Kyoto (which kind of acted as a gilded cage), but to maintain loyalties, as in England and other feudal places, it is diplomatic to travel around, visiting import nobles and allowing them the "honour" of hosting you. Edo did actually have administrative functions though, and there was a whole thing with having hostages from the families of vassals in the capital, or the relevant daimyo themselves (there was a rotation).

There is a whole Wikipedia article on the Blue-Green Distinction thing that got me into this originally, kind of cool, but I studied anthropology and I love linguistics so maybe that is just me. Their source for the Gaelic is a Gaelic Etymological Dictionary from 1911.
As for the captials, interestingly the Scottish had their "capital" near Scone/Perth for a long time, which is also where coronations with the Stone of Scone (which might actually be from Ireland, who knows, magic stone) took place and that is in many ways an important religious ceremony that has trappings that predate Christianity.

Gorm is originally old Welsh, gwyrm or something, but not currently in use. I am not sure, but what has happened with most languages with a "problem" with a lack of distinction between blue and green is the idea to add an extra word was added from the outside (generally by English speakers). So Japanese, which I am better with, has midori for green (and the super-green alcohol) but that has only really been used in Japanese for about 100 years, mostly after WW2. There are still a number of green things that the Japanese will call Ao (blue or azure) including plants. In Chinese the same character is used for plantlife and green, but also blue, also for Vietnamese which apparently does not make a modern distinction.

Well, uh, I'm not good at "words" so I'm just gonna say that I very much appreciate your work and hope you'll continue working on this mod 'till the day you're buried under ground.
Godspeed.

Next update:
Some fixes
More events
Newfoundland!

Ah, gorm, naturally. Though still, really!? Do you know when it occured? I could have sworn I've seen gorm in older texts before, and I can't see how Welsh words would have ended up in Irish before the 1800s... Plus Welsh has only gwyrdd & glas to my knowledge. I checked my dictionary, and the only gorm is "gormes" (oppression) & "gormod" (too much).

Indeed on capitals. In a Celtic context, that was very much the case (court following the king around), though here, the presumption was that the king's subjects would host the king. Mind there were significant sites, probably the best example being Teamhair, though it is likely few people lived there year-round, and it was almost closer to the modern concept of a church than the modern concept of a capital (aside from its purpose being sovereignty, rather than religion). It was vital to the ascension of a king, but only tangential to the administration. Not so unlike Rheims to France, actually.

Mind this is all 1st millennium stuff.

One of their specific jobs was fire prevention in cities across the Empire and the legislative system WAS the Tsar issuing ukase (edicts) until 1905. Russia was so large it ultimately needed to have a centralized government under one person, so he was the capital itself, until that pissed off so many people they started shooting at him. They did use Viceroys to simplify things as well though, and Voivodes for delegation, but ultimately everything did rest with them.

As for capitals, yeah, again, goes into form of government, Germans had their Hoftag and Reichstag, although how much it actually ruled due to the nature of the HRE is another argument. I remember seeing a thing about the entire court following the Tudor monarchs around as they went from castle to castle, with a stupid amount of luggage. As Parliament became stronger that shifted things. In Russia it rested very much with the Tsar into the 19th and 20th centuries (pretty much to the end, he had moved parts of the government out of St. Petersburg, which is why apparently why the government was unaware of how bad it was and how close the revolution was).

Gorm is the loanword, Gaelic already had glas. Saying Gaelic is closer to Scots than Welsh is an exaggeration, but they are pretty distinct from each other, to the point they are not mutually intelligible. German and English are not really mutually intelligible either, but we obviously share a lot of vocabulary, it just becomes more apparent when you consider the consonant shift they went through, so I can at least make sense of some sentences. My understanding from Gaelic speakers is they cannot make sense of Welsh at all. Gaelic is a language I am academically interested in, I picked Russian and Japanese over it, less complicated :P

It's not really, as long as it's related to Celtic things.
If you want, I can open a discussion for you to speak about it.
I may read it and maybe imagine a way to make it in game (or if you already have a idea, I would be glad to hear it).

@Furin Kazan
That is largely true about the definition of glas! Though I would point out that a distinction was made, just a different spectrum ... "dimmed" or "muted" colours vs. vibrant ones, that sort of thing. And that is also very true on capitals (at least in a Celtic context, arguably the concept was a bit more developed elsewhere in Europe). Though Welsh is rather closer to Irish than Scots ;D.

I didn't realise glas was a loanword from Welsh, though! Have a source on that? I couldn't find anything about that on eDIL, but it has plenty of examples of it used in old Irish texts.

Again, sorry @MaitreKorda for hijacking your comments section xD.

Traditionally Gaelic, like many languages, does not make a distinction between green and blue, it is all glas, covers greys as well. The modern word for green in both Gaelic's is actually borrowed from Welsh, which is so distantly related to Gaelic that Scots is probably closer.
As for standards, the use of the lion standard, the Royal Banner of Scotland, goes back to the Dunkelds. It is particularly associated with William the Lion (for obvious reasons). In many cases actual national flags did not exist yet, not even as a concept, so either way works. Theres also an argument that capitals did not really exist in the way we think about them, that they were whereever the monarch themselves were physically, but that largely depends on the form of government. Generally it is more true of earlier governments.