I know I posted this before, saying this actually BUFFS most npcs unarmed stats now, which is all good and well but given the proliferation of this in even new popular collection it should be stressed that this also will significantly NERF the dexterity stat of a lot of npcs. It's basically outright broken.

I take this doesn't work on added characters, like the new bandits from UWE?

will it work with r.w will inport work on a save

Still planning on using this mod but for the opposite reason now, base game has most people at 0 martial art skill but realistically every warrior would learn at least some basic hand to hand combat techniques if unarmed.

I guess this mod is obsolete these days. Used to use it a lot. I do wish something like this existed for the field medic skill. When one uses recruit prisoner, they quickly learn that most of the world is more advanced in the art of medical science than Dr. Chung or the young prodigy Izumi.

maybe for a king or emperor because they have the time for training on every special art ....or maybe no, your desides

@alexrkseth that's a reward right there

great mod when it was needed!! keep at it man you made a great mod the devs just fixed the problem you did!

Missed the opportunity to call it "not everyone was kung-fu fighting"

I missed @crux's message. He made the same point. Guess that answers my question.

Is this mod no longer needed? I checked the changes in FCS and it looks like the vanilla unarmed stat for a lot of characters was 0, so this mod buffs their martial arts instead now?

Did a patch come out since that zero'ed or lowered martial arts across the board on NPCs?

Also, something interesting I found out. Combat Stats of an NPC (unless they have unique stats used) sets the Dexterity. When you change the Unarmed Stat as this does, than that sets the Dexterity for the NPC rather than the Combat Stats. This mod may nerf Dex while buffing MA for NPCs on the whole.

They changed this some time ago. Most NPCs now have zero martial arts skill or dodge for that matter, with the exception of what is added by their randomize value. It is weird they changed it so drastically. A lot of NPCs that should have some skill like ninjas now have none. A wild swing in the other direction. Basically, this mod will actually now strengthen most npcs, rather than weaken them.

It does needs a import, because the status of most bosses are randomized and saved when you press new game, this also happens when you import (same as new game), so if you don't import, the game already have the bosses stats saved and the mod won't do anything

Could you pls check band of bones, reavers, fogman and others? Im using stronger group combat and they have like 50-70 MA when disarmed.

bandkanon : sorry, I don't know.

does this need an import?

Appreciate the info.

OcN.Helbrecht http://TryHard.lol : yes.
Keep in mind I never used this other mod, so can't tell you which NPCs are affected or not.

like bosses would still have high MA, but soldiers might not?

OcN.Helbrecht http://TryHard.lol : it would work, but won't modify the new templates of this other mod. Meaning some enemies won't be modified.

So with Stronger Group Combat this mod wont ever work right?

Spectarz : indeed, modifying templates added by an other mod, would force everybody to install both. :/

This mod will not work with Stronger Group Combat mod, SGC adds templates that cannot be overwritten with this mod unfortunately.

Well tinfist is a Skeleton martial artist from what i've been told, he's apparantly a kenshi style kenshiro or whatever his name is

Senator Crab : Is Tinfist his entire name?
If yes, I didn't modify him.
Note : the list of modified NPCs is in the images, on top of this page. :)

Thank you, oh and i'd also like to know if there are any enemies you left unaffected like tinfist perhaps?

Senator Crab : Best solution for personnal requests, is to do it yourself.
Don't worry, it's very easy.
1- Copy C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\workshop\content\233860\1622875790 to C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Kenshi\mods
2- Rename the copied folder "1622875790" to "2HNotMartialArtistDiv3".
3- Launch "C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Kenshi\forgotten construction set.exe"
4- Select "2HNotMartialArtistDiv3" in the list.
5- Click on "Changes", which displays what this mod changes
6- Edit the characters you want
7- Save and launch Kenshi, don't forget to activate the modified mod in your mod list.
Please report any issue :)

Is there a way to change the regular mooks MA stats but leave people like the stone golem or bugmaster free? It makes sense to me that they have MA stats as good as they do

Ahh okay. Good to know. Still thanks a lot for the help. ^^

horgone : thanks for the follow up.
I finally understood where the issue was : the droneguard doesn't have any unarmed stat specified in both mods.
It uses the "Base 60" template, which impacts all his stats.
I can't modify this template, as it's used by other NPCs; and setting his unarmed skills to a value is erased by this template.
As it is, I don't think there's a solution, for this particular NPC, sorry.

It is 100% from this mod.

1) I disabled all the the mods in my list except these Two. (You´re mod on the buttom of the List => imported my save) Southern Droneguard had 60-70 MA.
2) ONLY disabled "Stronger Group Combat" (imported my save) S.D. had 9-11 MA.
3) Disabled all mods (imported my save) S.D had 9-11 MA.

I also asked the mod creator for a screenshot of his stats.

https://1drv.ms/u/s!AoRM7tKOKWursVIGTldNXNRopH4Y

horgone : the mod you link doesn't seem to modify the Droneguard's unarmed stats.
https://imgur.com/a/JKR0y5v
Could you please confirm this?
Maybe this is modified by an other mod?

Its the Southern Droneguard. I thinks its just "Droneguard" in the files.

horgone : could you please give me the exact name of one non affected NPC?
I just checked the mod you listed, it makes a Lot of changes, so it's hard for me to check them all.
Thanks :)

Sadly this mod couses the problem for me. Your mod is on the buttom of the list but still doesn´t override his mod.
https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=705105311

JC-Weena : Thanks for the link.
I don't think it'll impact your mod, please report if you encounter any issue.

that is thee mod

https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1489675661

horgone : sorry, I don't know why this happens.
If an other user has any clue, he's more than welcome to answer.
Thanks in advance. :)

i put it one the buttom of the mod list and did an import.

horgone : did you import your save?
I don't know if it's required.

Thanks for the quick answer. :) But sadly that didnt fix it for me.

JC-Weena : could you please post the link to your mod?
Searching for "martial arts village" displays about 10 pages of results.
Thanks. :)

would this affect my martial arts village mod?

russian dude Линдир. just posted discription in russian.
will delete this if op wants.

"cutting someone's arm often leads to him becoming a better fighter"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmInkxbvlCs

Kimochi : here you go :)
https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1625785496

NorseBRK : indeed.

so if I don't use any mods, then I don't need this one either?