If I already have 4 carriers in my fleet, will adding hybrid carriers trigger an over limit penalty?

i really love this mod..i hope someone update it..i miss my i401 submarine carrier

Graphics update please

when will the graphics in the designer be fixed?

Despite it says its compatible with 1.12.x it isnt,because the grafics no longer show up on
the ship in the designer,

After looking into it I know what is going wrong. Looks like most of the naval modifiers in ideas are using type (ie. screen_ship, carrier, capital_ship, submarine). Changing those is beyond the scope of this mod. Hybrid ships are finicky and not something that is entirely intended by Paradox. So, unless we get some sort of Secret Weapons DLC this bug will probably remain.

I will take a look into why the modified hulls are doubling up modifiers for design companies.

cruiser 1 no company
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/825483719363264513/969822240084467742/unknown.png

cruiser 2 no company
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/825483719363264513/969822390274097192/unknown.png

cruiser 1 - Coastal Defence fleet designer
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/825483719363264513/969822813030584340/unknown.png

cruiser 2 - Coastal Defence Fleet Designer
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/825483719363264513/969822982916673606/unknown.png

cruiser 1 works correctly, but looking at cruiser 2 you can see the range drops to zero with the coastal company

your not applying a company. its the company. like a raiding fleet or a coastal fleet. both of those have no designer

I created 2 cruisers with the same modules. one on a cruiser 1 hull and the other on a cruiser 2 hull. The only differences I am seeing between them are the slight base stat differences between the 2 hulls.
What am I missing here?
https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2801409269

i don't mean the terrain bonuses. easiest way to see it is take any country with a coastal defence designer and apply it to any cruiser 2, when the bonus is applied the range will fall to zero and the cost lowered by 50% rather then the 50% range and 25% cost. i tried making a backup and modifying the ships but nothing seemed to work. and it seems to apply to an ship that can have a hanger module added, hence cruiser 1 is unaffected.

Terrain bonuses should not be applied twice. There should be 2 separate terrain modifiers. One for vanilla general ship stuff, and a second for modifiers that only effect that specific ship type. This is a result of my workaround to avoid directly modifying the vanilla terrain type folder for inter-mod compatibility.

was toying around with the mod and noticed any ship hull that can accept a flight deck gets its bonus applied twice. tested on Germany with raiding fleet, and the united kingdom with coastal defence ship, 1.11.10 (c189)

Ise should be setup to load after surcouf.

When using both of your mods - which should have load priority? Because they are conflicting according to Paradoxos Mod Manager.

Yes, but that is likely to go away in 1.12.

Does this mod add a new ASW hangar? Because I'm seeing it and I don't know where it's coming from.

Heavy attack will still target the first 2 rows, and light attack the first.

If hybrid Carriers are in the back row does that mean they can't use their guns on the enemy ships?

How do the Carrier aircraft change Submarine behavior in combat?

If anybody thinks that naval combat or ship/tank designer could use a little more work here are some suggestions you can look at.
https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/threads/change-how-ship-type-determines-naval-combat-positioning.1503916/
https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/threads/ability-to-restrict-modules-based-on-other-modules.1502926/
https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/threads/hoi-4-1-11-4-e26e-b22c-ship-auto-designer-not-working-on-some-hulls.1503913/

It is a limitation in that the combat position is determined by unit type (ie. carrier, capital_ship, convoy, screen_ship, submarine) instead of an independent variable. In order to use aircraft the hybrids need to include the carrier type. That limits them to the back row. Also, I will put a link to that suggestion when I finish wording it.

The issue with the hybrid carriers staying in the back row sounds like a problem with the limited modding tools. You should make a thread on the Paradox forum requesting the ability to make them move to the 2nd row of combat. We can then all upvote it.

the larger flight decks are locked behind researching better carrier tech.

How to enable medium and large flight deck for surface ships? all I can use is the small one

ah i see thank you!

The hybrid ship types show up when you put the deck/hanger module on a ship. Those modules are unlocked in the decisions menu.
So unless you are running a mod that is conflicting then it should those 2 thing should get you hybrids.

ship variant isnt showing up. how can i make it show up?

hm I tried actually making the ships to see if anything change by then. But it never changed. Even as it was made it was still stuck at 45 org

One of the bad things about me using events to hand out techs is that they might not fire for 2 or 3 weeks. Giving myself the left line of Fleet in being and waiting for the tech events to fire took an Ise class from 100 organization to 85 organization when replacing the rear guns with a flight deck.

That is weird, I am going to need to look into that.

Hm it is weird because their organization get completely slashed. (as soon as I add carrier module to yamato instead of floatplane, org goes from 160 to 40

Just because you don't see the hybrid doctrines on the tech tree doesn’t mean that they don't exist. I didn’t want to edit the tech tree directly in this mod. So, for both Ise and Surcouf whenever somebody has one of the doctrines for submarines, battleships, or cruisers along with the Ise/Surcouf flag a hidden event will pop up and hand the appropriate hybrid doctrine tech out. For Battle Carriers and Submarine Carriers their buffs look very similar to Battleships and Submarines, while Aircraft Cruisers use a split between Light and Heavy Cruisers.

Yeah everything from this mod and the MTG expanded doesn't get doctrine buffs, Please just assign Battleship buffs and submarine buffs to respective units. They get demolished by anything else otherwise

battlecarrier doesn't get doctrine buff, can you fix that? Either make carrier or battleship buffs apply to it?

I don't believe that they will cause each other to crash, but don't expect new modules from Ise to fit on new hulls form MTG Ex.

Does this work with MTG Expanded?

I don't have any plans, but if anyone else want to they can go for it.

Any chance this could be made to work for Millennium Dawn~? I know it's a big ask but I'm missing my weird and wonderful ship designs.

I like to think that MTG Expanded implementation is a bit closer to Battleship-Carrier Plus. Even then none of the hybrid battleship hulls and only half of the hybrid cruiser hulls are currently implemented.

Is this included in MTG Expanded?

Ok thanks.

Ise and Surcouf are designed to work well with each other.

Does this work with your cruiser submarine Surcouf mod?

They will likely work together. If the do then a lot of the hull will be using the slightly higher resource cost of that vanilla uses.

This doesn't work with operation overhaul, does it?

A new updated version for Black ICE is now live.
https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2333093901

Now updated for HOI4 1.10.x

I know KR does their own overhaul of the naval system.
Part of the my update to 1.9 was remove the prefixes from the ship_hull files in both the equipment and equipmentdesigner folders that would cause mine to load in last. This was done so that people could make better use of the user selected load order in the new launcher.

So, it likely means that pre 1.9 this was breaking their mod.

As stated in my compatibility section, May conflict with other mods that alter heavy, cruiser, or submarine ship hulls.


If someone want to make a sub-mod or compatibility patch for this to work with total overhauls like KR they have my go ahead.

Fenrir, really cool mod, works well, but I just wanted to ask, why has the mod stopped working together with added technologies or kaiserreich, did the 1.9 changes break mod intercompability