I'm constantly amazed at people like yourself, Gr1m. Your efforts for games like TpF really make a huge difference to the enjoyment of them and your "only" reward is to hear/see the reaction of others to them. My only reason for leaving a comment is to offer you my thanks and appreciation for the work you put into your mods - it's incredible. I have to go now, I'm searching through your uploaded mods to subscribe to all that I can make use of. Many, many thanks indeed.

I was just wondering, since you seem to be into original models: A little love for Narrow Gauge? Especially 750mm?

Well, call that a coincidence! This'll help boost my early passenger services quite a bit! Nice work!

@malard4468: It's funny that you made that comment, because I've just released a 2-2-2 tender engine for 1850's passenger services: https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1795286829

Hello Mr. gr1m, a wonderful set of engines! Are there any further variations planned in the future? A 0-6-0 tender engine, or a 2-4-0 tender loco would be a great addition to an early roster, and would give early games a dedicated, long distance goods and passenger engine

UPDATE: Kind of doing a massive batch of updates, so please see here for information: https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/workshop/discussions/18446744073709551615/1681441347871087327/?appid=446800

@vitalii201: It's very much still planned at this stage. I've started in a new department at work and haven't had much time to mod lately, and there's something else I'm probably going to release before I get to the narrow gauge conversion.

I join the request of lodewijk [NL} and hope that you will be inspired and there will be time for it.
The cars from the package(Narrow Gauge Pack) that I use 60 kmh, but I can, of course, edit it myself.

@lodewik: Thanks for the reference shots! You're right, that's even simpler than I expected. And actually a pretty convincing argument, if I'm honest. I'll have a go this weekend.

@gr1m it is already cool that you are even looking in to it.

as far as i can tell it would only be some changes to the model. as currently it runs just fine on 1000MM rail.

just the wheels and buffers are too wide if you compare them to the 1000MM wagons, and the 1000MM wagons also have a different type of connector (i believe its the one used by trams in the game) so right now it appears as if the loc isnt connected to the rest of the train

(the buffers are touching so the distance between loc and wagon looks good)

here is one of your locs on a 1000MM track piece: https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/782978301157964404/5BB19FB8F9F4024C95D4AD6F146A9C714A1345F3/

and here is a better view of the type of connector the 1000mm wagons use: https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/782978301157964591/369C5C1C3EECFA8AED4310616E111E415ECDC71D/

@lodewijk: That's not a bad idea. I'll look into it!

do you think you could create a 1000MM gauge version of this pack? that would be very sweet, because there currently is like 1 narrow gauge freight engine on the workshop right now.

UPDATE: Numerous small fixes to the meshes to improve overall quality.

UPDATE: Added a 0-4-0 tender engine. The stats are listed above, and you'll find an image above as well. They include placeable assets as well.

I've also changed the smoke emitters so the smoke should in general be a bit more realistic looking now. Feedback on this is welcome - I'm considering rolling this change out to my other steam engines as I go through and update them, but I'd like your feedback first if possible.

@MarkyT: That diagram's actually pretty helpful - particularly the tender, since I was mostly just making it up as I went. So I'll do another pass on the tender.

In fact I'll probably lengthen the tender engine's boiler slightly as well. It kind of works for the tank engines, but it just looks a bit odd on the tender, so I'll have ap lay around and try and come up with something that sticks to that super-short frame I'm aiming for, but also looks right aesthetically. So it'll be a little bit longer, but not too much.

I might redo the cabin shape for the tender engine as well since it doesn't really look right to me.

Nice tender. Maybe slightly longer compared to the loco, like this: http://www.townend.me/files/Image1470.JPG
A distant relative of mine was a railway contractor back in the mid 1800s & he's on record buying locos like this for site haulage work. In the early days, the cheap option was to upcycle second hand mainline locos, which usually had tenders. There were companies who specialised in converting them for site and industrial use, removing tenders & adding on board tanks and bunkers. Such applications didn't need the increased range of a tender & the extra weight of fuel & water on board actually gave better grip & haulage capability, often on very poor temporary track in construction sites. Your mod reminded me of these & made me think about the tender option. Industrial & construction use was a way some very old locos managed to survive much longer than others of the same type, & that was often how such machines were eventually discovered & became museum exhibits.

Gr1m, that looks great! It actually matches the design of early outside cylinder 0-4-2 & 0-4-0 locomotives. Most of them would have very low slung cylinders, like this example done by paulztrainz: http://www.paulztrainz.myenet.info/inside/N_SC042Stirling.htm . Many of these were built- in fact, i have quite a few books with images of engines just like this! Anyways, all your stuffso far looks great!

Second pass on the mock-up of the tender loco requested, let me know if you think it's worth adding: https://i.imgur.com/AC0hVla.jpg

@SteveM4: Yeah, I really love the cabless engine with the tender in particular, it looks awesome on early coal/stone/slate trains >.>

@gr1m I love that tender mesh! Smol tender engines are amazing.

@Le_Derp_Heavy: I've actually built a rough mockup yesterday, but I'm not sure which I prefer. Note that these are pretty rough at this stage: https://i.imgur.com/TtZepK8.jpg

So one idea is just more or less a tender version of the well tank body to make a small tender locomotive. Or I could use the saddle tank body to make something that vaguely (VERY vaguely) references the Ffestiniog saddle tank and tender locomotives. Or I could do something larger, but then I'm also worried that might be moving too far away from what the pack is intended to be, so that might be somethign for a seperate, standalone release.

gr1m, this might work as an 0-4-0; https://travelandmixpix.smugmug.com/Rail/Steam/Glasgow/i-4drkpJR/ .
https://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/blogs/entry/20308-early-0-4-2-banking-engine/
This might be an idea for a 0-4-2, but might be a bit too early. I don't have much more aside from that, but i hope they'll give you some ideas.

Saddle tanks got me like

@MarkyT: I was thinking of adding a couple of tender versions (despite the pack name!) did you have any reference for what you were looking for in particular? I'll see if its viable.

Great work gr1m. Agree with Bocaan this is one of the cutest little steam locos on the workshop, and could be used in maps set in many countries, as UK manufacturers supplied similar engines all over the world. A tender version would be good too.

Love it

Cool!

UPDATE: Added three saddle tanks to the pack - an 0-4-0 with and without a cab, as well as an 0-6-0. I've added images of all of the individual engines above.

Thank you very much!

the side tank is possibly the cutest loco ive seen on the workshop lol im gunna have to edit the year you get it so i can play with it till 1960

Wow, your design skills get better with every release! Keep up the good work!

These wonderful litte beauties have come a long way, and will go an even longer one on the plentiful routes out here ^^ Thank you very much for updating them, they look stunning!

This mod screams nice little branch lines. Can't wait. Also, I like how the 0-6-0T version ends in 1960 (cough beeching).