NEW NEW NEW UPDATED FLAG MOD HERE --- VERSION 4 --- https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2125636075&tscn=1592009061NEW NEW NEW UPDATED FLAG MOD HERE --- VERSION 4 --- https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2125636075&tscn=1592009061NEW NEW NEW UPDATED FLAG MOD HERE --- VERSION 4 --- https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2125636075&tscn=1592009061NEW NEW NEW UPDATED FLAG MOD HERE --- VERSION 4 --- https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2125636075&tscn=1592009061

You don't really need flag mods to be updated with the current version for them to work @admontblanc88

You can always try it yourself, instead of asking like I did. All I can say is it works. I thought there might be missing flags since there are new tags (aka new nations) now and I think I found one. It had pure white flag. Doesn't crash, works like a charm.

is this working with current version?

@DarthGanon, I should be able to get around to something in about three weeks when I get off on a little break. Peace out man, thank you for being a loyal follower of my mod!

@Sire

No problem man, its not too big of a deal anyway, just aesthetics. It'd be cool if you get around to it at some point, but if not its alright. Good luck with your studies.

@Crusade Kings, honestly I don't remember, the version I used wasn't on the workshop - I think its the same one that the streamer Gayngel uses but the terrain shaders rendition.

@DarthGanon, I am afraid I don't think it will be compatible with the TBARW EXTRA at least for this moment, I had consolidated my own flag mod with content from a banner mod so that it was more convenient for myself and better articulated my vision for those who are too lazy to get corresponding mods. However, I don't think it would be all that difficult for me to do - however, as I stated in a prior comment, I am at college and as a result can't really think focus on this -- in all likelihood I'd probably just need to make a flag mod without the square borders, so just the base flag files.

@Prinz_Falkenhayn, I am at college atm - hence the inaction on the mod, I will see what I can do

Update the mod please. The mod isn't quite functional, as the map looks like all colour are taken out.

@Sire

Hi, I noticed this iteration of the mod isn't compatible with the TBARW EXTRA: User Interface Mod. I remember the previous iterations were, and seeing as you've made a version of this one compatible with the Better U.I. Mod, I was wondering if you could do the same for the other Mod.

Just personally think the banners look the best in the TBARW EXTRA: User Interface Mod.

Hello my question is what map do you use? Thank you. great mod

I really enjoy this mod, the only issue I have is that, because of the shape, the flag's top is sometimes "cut off", it bugs me a little.

I am happy you enjoy it :)

Extremely enjoyable mod. The map now has this touch of artistic feeling in it. Thank you developer, it was a pleasure playing the game with this.

emmmm. what about the Saint Andrew's Cross hahaha

It's fine, and like I said, the Habsburg flag that is gold and black was also used later than the classical Austrian flag in addition to them being used at the same time when the gold and black was being used.

@Sire Alright, sorry. I found that gold and black flag was used for states that were in personal union with Austria. So actually both of them can be used. Sorry for bad English, I'm kazakh.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_the_Habsburg_Monarchy

@alibaba that's incorrect - only in the 1800s was Russia's flag black, yellow, and white and even then it was "used concurrently with the Red-Blue-White flag" and Austria's flag wasn't black and gold until the 18th century, nearly entirely out of the scope of Europa Universalis' timeline; "Flag of the Habsburg Monarchy, also the flag of the Austrian Empire, from the Austro-Hungarian Compromise of 1867 flag of Cisleithanian Austria. Sometimes used as the unofficial national flag of Austria-Hungary".
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Austrian_flags
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Russian_flags

Nice idea but few of them are worng. For example Russian flag was black, yellow and white and Austria's flag was black and yellow.

@hermerico vimara meneses, that's one of the difficult issues in choosing Portugal's flag during this timeline and I chose the flag that lasted the longest during this time period to try to mitigate that issue as best as I could - I am glad you like and appreciate it :)

Upvote for the Portuguese flag.
Although Portugal switched flags 11 times in the Eu4's timeframe, some variation of the white flag with the crest in the middle was used on 95% of the timeline, unlike the Vanilla flag which was only used in the first ~30 years.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Russian_flags

@infidel
A) if you opened the mod you would see that I did in fact change it to the Romanov flag because the tricolor wasn't adopted officially until the 1705.
B) i am actually thinking of changing it back because I don't necessarily view it as being particularly representative of Russia;
"Peter the Great's tricolour was the merchant flag (civil ensign) of Russia. As the oldest civil flag to represent Russia, it was later adopted as the national flag representing the country rather than the Tsar. However, the flags used by the Russian Army were regimental flags with the Double-Headed Eagle, the official Imperial symbol, in the centre. The Imperial Standard was the black Double-Headed Eagle displayed on a golden banner, represented the Tsar, the absolute ruler of the Russian Empire. It was used since 1697, but officially adopted in 1705.[5]"

@Infidel The flag of Russia in 1756 was the same as the current flag of the Russian Federation, while the imperial standard with the Double-headed Eagle was also in use at this time, the design used by the mod is more applicable to the historical context.

WTF is this Russian Flag? Three Color Flag is the flag of Russian Federation, not Russian Empire. Empite's flag was the same as Romanov Familly flag. Change pls

Ok, thank you for responding.

@onions, I had thought about it and may in the future - it is quite a lot of work and right now I am working on this euiv mod. I even have a folder for where I was going to start working on them but I had opted against it about a year ago -- short answer, yes but not at this moment.

@Sire Just wondering, are you going to create a flag mod for Victoria 2?

@wyatt1600
It evolved over time from the crusades - I made the English flag the St. George's Cross because of its prominence as a symbol representing England both during the times and thereafter - whereas dynastic symbols changed over time https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_George%27s_Cross

Why did they make the English flag what they made it?

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And for the crescent and star:

The crescent and star had long since been a symbol associated with the areas of Anatolia, Thrace, etc. and can be found specifically on Byzantine coins [en.wikipedia.org]. Wikipedia states that "after the fall of Constantinople in 1453 Turkic people added the crescent moon and star symbol to their flag." I don't know if the Turks used the crescent and star specifically because of it's association with the Byzantine Empire and Constantinople, but we know it does eventually become a symbol of the Ottoman Empire. Given that Mehmet II considered himself the new Roman Emperor, it's not impossible that the crescent and star was gradually adopted because of its association with the region and Constantinople.

@ Sire.

Nice to see this mod on the front page of the workshop. Seeing as there is some debate about a flag for the Ottoman Empire I figured I'd give my 2 cents.

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While the Ottoman Empire didn't have traditional flags for a while, I think a simple green or red field with a white crescent and an 8 pointed star would suffice. Wikipedia states that the Turks supposedly used a green flag until it was officially made red by law in 1793, when this flag [en.wikipedia.org] was adopted. So green seems to have been used longer, but the red version is also within the game's timeline (and it looks cooler imo), so I suppose either is fine.

No problem, I hope you enjoy my mod :) <3

Ohhh jeez, thank you my dude! <3

@wesky I have a betterui compatible version up right now - https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1780267385

@wesky right now I am looking into that, I will keep you updated
@Skarlow unfortunately I won't be doing that as it's not historically accurate
@terran president :/

Eyy m8, could ya make it compatible with Better UI 1.28 plz? c:

-1/10 - Didn't change the flag of every German state to the Rhenish flag.

Maybe the white royal flag for France...?

I can make one no problem, as for Russia I already have an alt and I will make an alt for Spain as well in addition to trying to figure something out for the Ottomans.

My suggestion for Sweden, the same as Russia, would be to provide an alternate. Both a banner style as well as a coat of arms style. My only issue regarding Sweden would be to posit, what if the House of Vasa does not come to rule Sweden? Then you have their coat of arms superimposed.

I made a Swedish flag awhile back that you are more than welcome to use for your mod, if you like. If you would like to, you can message me or add me, and I can send it over to you.

As a historian myself, I see your point regarding Muslim flags, I'm simply going off of vexillological records for both what the European world knows as well as the Islamic world.

Russia's flag was a naval and trade standard before it was the national flag, you're right about that. It was first known in 1668 but then in 1696, Peter the Great made it the national flag.

With the case of Spain, you could make an argument for using a combined version of the Burgundy Cross flag with the coat of arms superimposed per centre, as was often done in Spain, especially from the reign of the Bourbons onward.

Sweden's royal standard is beautiful. It is known that the Swedish flew the Nordic cross the same as Denmark, alongside their royal flag, they're both good options and it's a good look and good choice to make the royal flag available - I like it a lot too!

@polskers
You have a good point with Sweden, I just love that damn flag so much - the coa that is - but it may be more accurate to switch it to the nordic cross, however, I do adore that coa.

In the case of Spain, I used to use the Burgundian cross, but I opted for the coat of arms that was not only used prior to the Burgundian cross but I think it is also more representative of Spain in game considering:
"The Spanish monarchs continued to use it in their own arms after the Burgundian house was part of the Spanish Crown, and even after due to the extinction of the House of Burgundy. From 1506 to 1701 it was used by Spain as a naval ensign, and up to 1843 as the land battle flag, and still appears on r egimental colours, badges, shoulder patches and company guidons."
And asides from the fact that the Burgundian inheritance hardly goes to Spain in game, the coat of arms was used throughout Spanish history on flags and such as well. However, I may decide to opt back to the Burgundian cross in the future as it has, without a doubt, played a significant role in Spain - we will see.

As for the Russian flag, here's the thing, it wasn't made the official national flag until far later than its conception however it was the naval flag used since Peter the Great, founder of Russia and that being said, it would be the flag that pretty much anyone at any port would see throughout the world as Russia expands its trade and diplomatic networks. Many national flags or flags that represent a country started off as naval flags and became national flags later on. However, that being said, I almost like the Tsar standard better and if you looked in the files you will see an alt Russian flag I made specifically to potentially address how conflicted I am on this matter. I would argue that the tricolor is more accurate as a representation of Russia however, I like the Tsar flag more and the Tsar flag was in practice for its armies.

With Turkey and most Muslim countries, they didn't use flags in the same sense as Europeans did and Turkey doesn't have a national flag, I was thinking about customizing one of those double dagger flags that they used but there was so much variation, its definitely not a national thing - so for now, I just use a higher res version of the vanilla flag.
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Thank you so much for your support and recommendations, this stuff is all more stuff to look into as well as I constantly think of what to change and tinker with. Especially with Sweden, as, I am now so conflicted as to whether or not I keep the coa I love or switch it to the cross. If you find anything else, feel free to comment below and I will make note of it.

Nice mod, mate. Gets an upvote. A few tips though.

You've got some nations (e.g. Sweden) using their royal standards, when generally they would've flown a combination of their national flag as well as their king's flag - nice touch adding the Vasa coat of arms onto the Swedish crown and lion, though. Nice addition. Same goes for Spain, the coat of arms flag isn't wrong, but it was flown alongside the Burgundy Cross flag, especially in the colonies.

Russia's flag was not used until the 18th century as a national standard. Before then, it would've been the Rurikovich/Romanov standard as the flag. Turkey's flag is also difficult as there is no record of a Turkish national flag existing before the last decade of the 18th century.

Overall this is a very strong effort with a great degree of accuracy and definitely a recommended download. My advice would just be to cross-check some sources and make sure your vexillological records are sound. Great work either way!