Crusader Kings II

Crusader Kings II

Stronger Orthodox Church
131 Comments
magnvs1101  [author] 10 Jan @ 11:55pm 
tgat's not supposed to happen
first open the console with '~'
write 'charinfo'
and when the event comes note the name of the event, because of charinfo u will be able to see the name when hovering over the event
then save the game (do not save as compressed, it need to be in plain text so u can edit it)
open it in notepad or whatever
and search for the name of the event, and then delete its appearances, not only the name but the context it appears in, use your best judgement
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that being said if u do not care to try any of the above steps, i will tell u that it does sound like u fugged with some load order because of dlcs/mods after starting the game, which is not a good idea in general
if u start a new game it will most likely work
Ricky Nuckles 10 Jan @ 7:50pm 
I'm getting a constant message as the eastern roman empire after a successful crusade for Jerusalem or Antioch. It says that after the crushing defeat blah blah blah, the orthodox church or (name here) is under the rule oft he romans and I click the button that says the Romans will no longer bow to the saracens. And it returns every month. Non stop. I tried to see how long it would do it but after 3 years its still doing it. I tried to save the game and come back and it still does it. As long as I own either of those cities, i get this message. I haven't even gotten to Alexandrea yet because the crusades have only gone for these two cities so far. Is this a bug, is anyone else getting this? how can I get rid of it without having to remove the mod.
It didn't start happening until after I added a couple more DLCs to my list.
magnvs1101  [author] 4 Oct, 2024 @ 10:18am 
read the thank you paradox section in the mod description
Tyr 3 Oct, 2024 @ 4:02pm 
Every time I pledge support for the Orthodox Crusade, I get kicked out and have to redo it. Missed out on two crusades so far
Sieradzki 25 Jul, 2023 @ 5:35am 
I've read the closely control the ecumenical patriarch bit a few times now and looked in game trying to change a random court member into the leader but i cant figure it out? there's no option if i left click them etc what am i doing wrong?
firespark84 3 Apr, 2023 @ 12:01am 
the mod is really fun, but the declare catholics as heretics does not seem to work
Khamul 21 Feb, 2023 @ 11:14am 
Can someone pls tell me how to pass agnatic laws and closely control the patriach. i dont get a decision or anything?
Nacht Blackwell 8 Oct, 2022 @ 2:11am 
I am enjoying your mod. Thank you!
magnvs1101  [author] 2 Sep, 2022 @ 8:40am 
hehe
it doesn't disable catholic crusades
Settra 2 Sep, 2022 @ 7:20am 
So funny ahahah, ok so does it disable catholic crusades?
magnvs1101  [author] 2 Sep, 2022 @ 5:30am 
yes, u can ask
Settra 2 Sep, 2022 @ 4:02am 
Really great mod, finally something that will make me wanna play orthodox Rome instead of catholic or hellenic one.
I have only one things i do not like about it and would change.

That passing agnatic laws and low women rights are required for next step in getting close control over Patriarch.

Also can i ask about if denouncing catholics will disable their crusade?
magnvs1101  [author] 18 Jan, 2022 @ 1:04am 
i implemented local/ecumenical dioceses system on a kingdom by kingdom basis so the simple answer is no
u can fix this by either
1 conquering constantinople, which means u will want the dioceses to be ecumenical
2 try a mod called title manager, and bring all duchies under a russian kingdom
3 maybe if you edit this mod it might be possible to implement an empire based system
Red Dye #40 17 Jan, 2022 @ 3:36pm 
I am Russia, and I want to destroy the local Diocese, and have them under the Russian diocese. Is it possible to do this? Or does it go back to Constantinople?
magnvs1101  [author] 14 Sep, 2021 @ 5:27am 
i don't offer support to people who edit files.
if u know how to do that, u can diagnose urself what went wrong.

this mod is provided free and as is. i can assure u it works well and there are no bugs. if u don't believe me u r welcome to try to find a bug (and the mod code that causes it) and when i have time will update if there indeed is one.
khan_raider_alex 13 Sep, 2021 @ 11:56pm 
Okey dockey
No, they don't reform and fix themselves. If I edit savegame and remove any land titles - I mean castle - then everything is fine but as soon as they get another one they turn to 150 knights. Surely something wrong
magnvs1101  [author] 12 Sep, 2021 @ 7:27am 
u get the notification if u r their liege
khan_raider_alex 12 Sep, 2021 @ 6:44am 
mod event: "The grandmaster of the Brotherhood of the Holy Sepulchre has informed me of his plans to reorganize the holy order. I should disband their troops for the next year or they might be disbanded by him."
Don't recall this message. Thing is the Brotherhood of the Holy Sepulchre is not in Juerusalem but in Rus and i'm not their de jure liege. is there possibity that there were now such message?
And what to do with them now? is there a trigger to reset?
magnvs1101  [author] 12 Sep, 2021 @ 4:36am 
nothing wrong with the mod. please read the mod description and the mod events.
mod description: "To donate wealth or vassalize the order you can right-click the grandmaster."
mod event: "The grandmaster of the Brotherhood of the Holy Sepulchre has informed me of his plans to reorganize the holy order. I should disband their troops for the next year or they might be disbanded by him."
khan_raider_alex 12 Sep, 2021 @ 2:35am 
And
No more send to holyorder decision and donate etc. Something not working right with reorganization, cause about 10 years in game it was ok, I checked savegame files and
it was
d_holy_sepulchre
now it
d_holy_sepulchre_000
khan_raider_alex 12 Sep, 2021 @ 1:24am 
what the heck happened to the Brotherhood of the Holy Sepulchre? They are now something like 100knights and 150 Special that doesn't look like reorganization it's more like templar etermination
Americana 10 Jul, 2021 @ 2:28pm 
It seems like the change crusade target function is broken. Whenever I try to change the crusade target, it switches back to the original target right after.
LordHighPing 21 May, 2021 @ 7:40pm 
question, is this ironman/achievement compatible?
Ignatius Maximus 16 Apr, 2021 @ 3:46pm 
So, I have this problem, whenever I call up the Brotherhood of the holy Sepulchre, they diss me off, telling me that they'll leave me because of my crimes against the faith or something, they're still my vassals, they just...won't help me.
magnvs1101  [author] 30 Mar, 2021 @ 12:04pm 
yeah u r good
Elite Ninja X 30 Mar, 2021 @ 11:21am 
Do you mind if I use some of this for a mod pack?
magnvs1101  [author] 19 Nov, 2020 @ 10:54am 
read the thank u paradox part
Nonbisco 19 Nov, 2020 @ 4:39am 
I can't join the pope's crusade, it automatically unpledges me and then I get a lot of shit for it ;_;
yvictor20 7 Oct, 2020 @ 8:34am 
Could you make something similar for the Nestorians and the Miaphysites ?
magnvs1101  [author] 28 Aug, 2020 @ 7:19am 
the mod doesn't completely work with other mods that change religion stuff, what a surprise, huh?
and i am not going to make a version for every mod
if someone wants a version compatible with hip or another mod:
it is rather easy because i have left readmes in my mod that explain the parts that cause incompatibility
but they will have to make it themselves
Vatonage 28 Aug, 2020 @ 6:02am 
@gr8_hate
It works for me with HIP. It might just be that there's not enough strong independent wome- I mean Orthodox rulers who are willing to join, so it just becomes you and the EP against the whole Muslim world.

Until then, you should be able to take the "halt Orthodox Crusades" decision so that you aren't bleeding moral authority, then you can restart the Crusades once you think more people will join.
gr8_hate 27 Aug, 2020 @ 9:05pm 
for orthodox that is
gr8_hate 27 Aug, 2020 @ 9:05pm 
Unfortunate that the crusade mechanic does not work when activated while playing HIP, literally no one joins the crusade lol which just turns into a -10% moral authority. Huge bruhh moment
debi 14 Aug, 2020 @ 4:18pm 
Is it possible to dismiss the pentarchy after already doing it? I dismissed it once but now after conquering there are more pentarchs, or is this how its supposed to be? I expected being able to excommunicate a vassal who's religious head is the pentarch of rome.
emreyigit1967 11 Aug, 2020 @ 2:10am 
Does one have to go through these in order? That is to say, first make the patriarchs subordinate to Constantinople, then re-assign the dioceses, then agnatic laws, control the Patriarch etc?

And wrt to enable crusades... does it take some time for this to activate? Because I've taken the decision, and right-clicking on a heathen picture does me no good.
Killinspecialist 28 Jul, 2020 @ 4:16pm 
still playing my save and theres still the same amount of people with agnatic as before so waiting isnt fixing it and some of my vassals are just following other vassal patriarchs even though theres no kingdoms and theyre all duchy tier

i wanna try to fix this, this is a great mod from the sound of it
Vatonage 28 Jul, 2020 @ 4:04pm 
The decision isn't disabled for me, but then again, I'm using this mod with HIP - so it kinda renders the "Declare Catholics Heretics decision" to be a bit inferior.
magnvs1101  [author] 28 Jul, 2020 @ 12:23pm 
u've written 5 rows when u could have just said
"plz add a temp buff/nerf to moral authority for orthodox/catholic after decision"

if u r orthodox and took rome u already have high ma and if the pope lost rome catholics should already have low ma
no points in adding another buff/nerf
LAismyCity 28 Jul, 2020 @ 9:16am 
You could rework the mend the schism decision to be much more fair, in that instead of converting much of the catholics, you can combine the decision to declare them heretics with the mend the schism one so that by mending the schism, the catholics are considered heretics, and it should bring moral authority up for orthodoxy and decrease catholic moral authority. It could be anything really that could rework it.
magnvs1101  [author] 28 Jul, 2020 @ 12:03am 
so is there any benefit?
it's not rly about buffs or nerfs with this mod (although it's mostly buffs). it's about changes (not in doctrine, but its manipulation by the state) that could have happened to the orthodox church by visionary emperors

is there is a benefit tho?
u can now holy war them to take their land for yourself
if u want peaceful conversions, invite a claimant to ur court, convert him and then put him on whatever throne u want
magnvs1101  [author] 28 Jul, 2020 @ 12:02am 
fine, i'll say it again
this mod disables the mend the schism decision

think about it
the pope was one of the most influential persons of that time
some orthodox guy manages to capture rome
and now boom, 75% of catholics become orthodox?

u take the 5 sites. would you really divide the christian world in 5 for the pentarchs? and give the patriarch of rome the biggest territory? so next time u lose control of rome he again starts saying he is the head the church?

no, there were reasons for the pentarchy at the time of iustinianus, those reasons don't apply several centuries later

so? would you really negotiate with the pope? maybe, but if u think popes like to bend the knee u haven't read enough history.
no, what would most likely happen is that the negotiations would break down and the pope would find some new hq
magnvs1101  [author] 28 Jul, 2020 @ 12:01am 
"ok so is there a way to do it without kingdoms or with kingdoms that get quickly deleted?"
listen, it seems to me u don't know the base mechanics of the game, learn the base mechanics without any mods and then u'll see u understand how to use this mod
Killinspecialist 27 Jul, 2020 @ 10:11pm 
you can holy war them and might be able to do invasion cb depending on mods i think
Vatonage 27 Jul, 2020 @ 7:50pm 
Is there any real benefit to declaring Catholicism a heresy rather than just mending the schism, since the latter option has a chance of converting most of the Catholics anyway?
Killinspecialist 27 Jul, 2020 @ 1:45pm 
ok so is there a way to do it without kingdoms or with kingdoms that get quickly deleted?
magnvs1101  [author] 27 Jul, 2020 @ 1:41pm 
after a while all orthodox titles will be agnatic

ecumenical patriarch = patriarch of constantinople

read the reassign the dioceses part
Killinspecialist 27 Jul, 2020 @ 12:24pm 
srry but so how your saying it it seems like eventually all my vassals will be agnatic at some point, correct?


ok so fair point about the kingdoms and dioceses thing but how am i supposed to get everyone to follow my patriarch they mostly say ecumenial patriarch but isnt that the same thing as the patriarch of constantinople

idk if these are bugs or what plz help
magnvs1101  [author] 27 Jul, 2020 @ 11:48am 
i legit don't understand what u r asking
plz separate ur phrase into multiple sentences
Killinspecialist 27 Jul, 2020 @ 10:42am 
ok so eventually all of my vassals will go agnatic?? ok fair enough with the kingdoms but then how do i get everyone to follow my puppet patriarch my demense follows him but most other follow the ecumenial patriarch or their local one but arent the patriarch of constantinople and the ecumenial patriarch the same thing or am i wrong also i control all the holy sites
magnvs1101  [author] 27 Jul, 2020 @ 9:09am 
agnatic law is enforced only after title creation or after title inheritance.
it is this way so people who only have daughters r not screwed over instantly, and have some more time to have a grandson from a daughter or adopt a heresy

isn't it obvious that u shouldn't be able to reassign dioceses for kingdoms u don't own?