ABANDONED :c

hella fun mod ngl

I'm about to see if I can live without changing The Hub. Hopefully it's all good.

If the Hub isn't changed at all there won't be any conflicts. If you do change the hub, the Cultists are still around and that will pretty much never conflict with anything.

Ok good to know thanks. I just started redoing my mod list, so as long as I avoid doing anything to The Hub directly I'll have a better chance of finding him?

If you're running Expanded Cities: The Hub, Apocaly probably won't spawn. You need to find the cultist, who is a very rare spawn in the Border Zone. They aren't attached to any cities so try searching around, maybe you'll find one in a bar, maybe you'll find one on patrol.

Where have people found Apocaly or the cultist in the Hub? I'm running Expanded Cities: The Hub, Expanded Cities: South Hub, Gen Mod, and Living World if that helps.

@happy
Where are you encountering him? He should be rare. Did you change your squad spawn rate in the options menu? That could make him much more common. I think you also asked in the suggestions post, I went into more depth there to help trouble shoot why you're encountering him more than I intended.

"A Shifty Man hunts you down!"
he does, but he also spawns every new location I travel to.
I'm not sure forcing the same combat every 20 minutes will end up fun.
Good mod apart from that, but the shifty man gives me urges to just uninstall the mod.
Maybe I got unlucky with his spawnrate.

Heheh... Too bad I saved with my guys right among a group of them because when I loaded after the fix they immediately turned hostile and started killing all the anti-slavers single-shot... Well, let's see if I can salvage this madness and do some ninja medicing xD

@Pakislav Fixed it - Horny Bugman Army didn't have a worldstate trigger so I added it. Should be good to go the next time you open Kenshi

@Pakislav I'll look into that real quick. Gorillo bandits, I never touched, those are vanilla. But the Horny Bugmen thing is something I'll look into.

Why's there herds of 'horny bugmen' and 'gorillo bandits' strolling around if I didn't activate the apocalypse?

College e courses and exams can drive a man crazy. But in your spare time you can invite the Mad Cat-Long to join the party and have him shout out your troubles. Mad King rebuilds his Mad empire?

BARMEN RISE UP

@UrShaukort
I also just sent out a patch so that if the Hub's world state is changed, you can find a wandering lustful cultist who can activate the apocalypse as well.

Great, thanks!

@UrShaikort
It doesn't effect any world states, so it should be.

Sounds great! Is it compatible with reactive world?

Dust heavies now wear pants into battle

The hub man wouldn't be there as due to the world state that specific hub is entirely different than the previous hub. If you want to keep him around without him despawning on world take over, knock him out and imprison him. He'll let you do it regardless because I don't have him set to not talk when imprisoned.

can it work with take mover the world? like if the hub were to be taken over would the hub man still be there?

waw

Maybe Deadcat could also rise up in defense? And the skeletons in Wend could discover World's End and try to eliminate it. The Leviathans could finally leave the coast in search of people to step on

cant wait to try it

Dude...This sounds freaking amazing!!!

Updated to say Kung Fu is no longer learned by starving bandits and he instead just increased their numbers

@Andrini
Do you have any mods that change the Hub extravagantly? I don't think there should be any conflicts but maybe there's an issue with the population of the Hub? His only AI package is to sit in a bar so that's the only place you should find him barring right after game start.
You may also need to import if adding to a previous save (without dead NPCs).

Hey so i can't find Apocaly and i looked everywhere around the hub.

ok thanks didn't know bakeries counted as bars.

@heathen
he spawns in the town center and proceeds to walk to the bar.
If your hub has 2 or more bars be sure to check them all. Bakeries also count as bars.

Where does Apocaly spawn in the hub I cant find him?

I would download this mod, but I don't like the idea of bandits being kung fu masters, kinda takes me out of the immersion (muh immersion), maybe just increase their numbers. Maybe more people are displaced and starving from the various battles being waged?

COOOOOOL

Concur with Daemonic Spoder, making the skeletons go on the march would be awesome.

The skinners setting up camps around the map sounds particularly frightening.

@Daemonic Spoder i lover that idea, hope the creator puts it in for thought.

Love the idea of some endgame events to shake the world up as we know it.

One idea i'd love to see is the ashland skeletons marching fourth to re-conquer the continent, the threat that the bugmaster has been preparing the spiders for. Maybe even turn the swamps in a huge battlefield with the spiders coming from the east and the legion from the west, then you have the swampers in the middle.

The only way you could stop the invasion is by taking out the ringleaders in ashlands... Or potentially help them by taking out the bugmaster... I just so much potential in this mod and cant wait to see where you take it next.

ty for the mod <3 and readding your description was funny uwu

lol the barman has gone rouge

can you add a new member type? like an organiced version of them maybe ex soilders

@Oled I'll figure out something different then, since the Hungry Bandits appear to be the most problematic change :P

Looks really cool, thanks for contributing to the workshop =)

i like the idear and it all looks awsome except for bandits suddently becoming kungfu masters.

@foxy
I think I did give them more men. Are they still too easy? I'll look into what I can do. I did make the starver big mob more common than the smaller groups and added the hungry bandit army to a few new biomes, at the very least. My idea is to just give them a non-0 chance of not being equipped at all, give them cheaper weapons, then increase their combat abilities so that they're a little more dangerous but not over whelming. They're meant to still remain a newb faction for you to train fodder on.

toontaco ah I see what you mean. I personally would solve this issue in a more easier fashion. Give them more men in the squad and lower the martial arts, that way they still have a fighting chance but they don't beat everything moving. In my experience more NPCs with medium stats even out in a fight rather than a smaller group with beefed up stats that shred everything in their path. It's just an idea :)

@Yum
I'll fiddle with world states and figure out how to add optional triggers to stuff like that. I have a good idea on how to do it. You'll eventually be able to speak to Apocaly about adding more challenging aspects to the world that even expert Kenshi players will find difficult at best and impossible at worst.

@foxy
I'm currently trying to balance those guys. If I give them even a modicrum of strength they start to overwhelm literally everything and become too dangerous, but because of their martial arts skill they'd be even more dangerous without it. The logic behind giving them a high martial arts skill is that they're so often left with a broken arm that they resort to martial arts - which turns a relatively harmless character into a deadly foe as they become more and more damaged.
I wrote a lot more on how I want to balance them but it was too long :(

I like the idea of this mod, but I think it's unrealistic to make bandits powerful unarmed characters and then just give them swords that they are forced to use with very low efficiency. I would suggest you just leave them without swords so they pose a challenge instead of looking handicapped like this.

I agree with Antagonist, that would be badass as I have a skeleton army based in skinner's roam, would be interesting to see.

I'm excited to try this out when it gets further along, I've taken to enabling Chaos Raid mod and even that's not enough for my murder'bos