Is this mod compatible with the new Beta versions? or is there a extra mod for the Beta versions? I would like to try this mod but don't want to downgrade the game version.

dear god i didnt read more start options and went from 1970 to 1990 thinking i was just a crappy developer, still though amazing mod haha

Hey love your mod but after downloading it i no longer have the option to make "add-ons" to games. I really don't want to have to delete this mod and start over, could you possibly help me with this so i can continue to use this mod.

Dammit, I love this mod and missed the bit about the "MoreStartOptions" mod and starting from 1970. I was wondering why my sales were shit and I was gaining NO fans. Then the update hit the other day and "MoreStartOptions" mod stopped working and the next day in-game everything runs out of stock and I finally gain more than 100 fans (I was in 1980's by this point)

oh and good luck with your future endeavors man, with life and what not. (just read the bold text at the bottom)

Woohoo, all mods are broken again... sigh beta's are hard.

Please update

Please update. This is the best mod for this game, there are no analogues to it. Original game is dull and boring without it.

Consoles don't appear as hardware after the update, can you change that?

it works but you cant add any dlcs to the games and stuff and that was a big thing i was exited for

Unfortunately no, but it should also be working without any alteration.

Are you updating this Mod to the newest Update?

The price is linked to the amount of features. The more you select, the higher the suggested price, so it will raise in the later years. Nonetheless you can set the price from the beginning as high as you want.

Why is the price of the operating system only a dozen dollars, and most companies go bankrupt because of the development of the operating system

nvm, its under the second tab where you choose 2d editor ect for your software

hi, you didn't really explain how the sub genres and topics work how do they work?

epiccc

noice

So finally the Game Update is finished and out now.

ok, thanks.

Start another game and the sales will most likely be heavily switched, without making any changes. Most of the time they work more like a complete random number generator, than following a structured logic.

Due to Game Mechanics the Research (Level 3) Features are only useable from the player and not the AI. They have at the moment only fashionable character for optional realism. Maybe I will give them script features later on, but that would be in the far future.

And does these ® features worth it? I don't see any changes after enable them.

some hardware like ram and fans have too little sales imo to make it worth the investment. you could get 1mil profit for 1-2 months then quickly drop to 500-700k later after being hardwork and keep releasing 5-7 sequel.
However input devices are money cow. You could consistently get 1 mil profit early on.

well at the end i did just exactly that and managed to get somewhat reasonable market, although some categories still ended up never go below 0. I hope the devs post the exact calculation for it at release.
Anyway thanks!

Hi Mataputih, the pricing is indeed one of the most complicated thing to be done. I remember going through 3 days of trial & error in the beginning to see which values worked with the least problems.

First thing: Forget realistic values. Go with what the game makes with what you enter and see if it works. If not -> go higher/lower and see if it works better. I go with 3 test runs for each change.

Second: The amount of features, the optimal dev time and some other things influence if your range of value will work in one category and may be not in the next. As a rule of thumb my minimum starting point is never under 100 $ selling price in Hardware. You need at least a multiplier factor of 4-6 from the producing costs to not get instant bankrupt.

The rest is mostly trial & error runs after that. Hope that helps you a bit.

@Shadowmaster Hello,I want to ask how did you balance the pricing with the new hardware production. I edited your stuff to my liking for my own playthrough, including adding components and idealprice to be more "realistic" but most AI companies net income always either minus or made too much money. is there some kind of calculation behind it?

Oh, thank you very much for the information, i have yet to take a look at the Software Inc trello site, and see what will be coming in the future

Thanks for the info. I just took a look and saw that the DLC's in there are only added as a new software category like 2D/3D Editor, Audio, Games etc. They are not working as DLC's in the common sense and rather an independent software.

Real DLC's and Updates will be added from Game Dev in base game with the next update, so there's no need to mod it in: https://trello.com/b/9I286Mhu/software-inc

As far as i have seen he had a feature, where you could have DLCs for games your comany has released, which is a really cool feature imo

What did that mod include, which mine doesn't have?
According to the screenshots it is rather unrealistic and goes only from the same Feature V1 -> V2 -> V3. This is already implemented with vanilla base game and the software years, which will progress automatically with time moving on.

@Shadowmaster, can you make a mod simular to the "Better Game Mod" ? i would love to see such mod for A11, but sadly the mod is dicontinued

Thanks for the info. When I find the time, I will check it out personally and see what the results are.

Also I just released the latest update. If anyone should be bored, feel free to check out the new content.

I know that for software, you could sell it to third-party stores, essentially. I didn't see it in this version of the Alpha, so maybe the developers decide to get rid of distribution channels? Furthermore, I'm happy to report that the sales issue is no longer present now, even with the More Options Mod is enabled.

Can you explain me in detail what you mean with distribution channels? I didn't change or removed anything to them and only added categories, so I'd like to know, if a simple Data Mod can influence that behavior at all.

I think the best way to fix the low sales issue is to add distribution channels back. From what I've read, the distribution channels is where the large amount of profits come from. With this mod, there aren't any distribution channels available, which is weird considering that that's how most hardware is sold in real life.

Just be patient hms3937. Modding, especially what Shadow is doing, is hard. Give it some time and it will eventually drop.

You already asked me that in the comments on 17.03. The answer is the same as back then.
They will come, but I can't say when, since there is much work and experimenting left to be done. The general outline is planned out in theory, but no idea if it will work out in the end.

will you update the game section to like it was last time. (where you got to pick the genres)

One thing is the retention rate. I found out in my latest test that the entered months will be exactly reached, if I myself release and market the product. Sales will behave like they would in the real world and will be cut-off exactly at the final month. No single AI Company could reach the entered values, not even close to half.

Second thing are the non-explainable explosive costs. Even with flattening out and raising prices to 500 $ and more, the costs eat up anything, but without any reason. Product is sold to every customer, generating 120 Million. Costs of more than 240 Million are turning this into negative and this is rather slightly-less-than-normal than rare. Tested that with Base Game and it occurs there as well with software-only products.

What I meant is when you play test it in a regular game, without the More Start Options mod. If the behaviour is the same, then it really is a base game issue.

I never tested that mod, since I use the trainer that does the same and has no bugs. The sales in base game itself are bad, but the More Start Options itself is killing it to near zero. There are many statements in the Discord confirming that. Here are only a few quotes:

10.07.2020: More starting options is broken.

24.12.2020: The trainer mod allows starting in 1970 and some more things, but also has a gamebreaking bug which nullifies sales.

26.12.2020: I just disabled all code mods to see if that'll work. It was the more starting options mod. Thank you!

In the comments of the older mod version (the new ones are build on that afaik), there were dozens of complaints and comments due to that behavior, so I wouldn't touch the mod at all to be safe.

I don't think it's the More Start Options mod being the issue here. What numbers did you get when you were play testing?

Thanks for the information. I will add that. Hopefully that mod will get fixed someday.

Even with the MoreStartOptions fix, sales are still iffy. Several of my playthrough I only make around 1,000 sales for every product I make. Doesn't really make sense, and most of the time, you are making a lose.

@ Luzilyo - Thanks^^

@fudge sundae - You also use the MoreStartOptions Mod, right? That Mod is causing headaches everywhere with this no sales bug. I will add extra information in the description for this.

Nevermind, didn't see CallOn84's solution!

Not sure if it's this mod doing it or maybe a compatibility issue, but since starting a new game none of my software sells regardless of how many followers, what my reputation is or how good the software is.

nice, finally a good mod that's not been abandoned in like 2016 or 2018 or something lol. good job btw, keep up the good work.

Fix was just released. Please read the updated description above for further information.
All features should now be possible to select after several test runs. I had to re-arrange some, so don't wonder if it doesn't look exactly like before.

Wow, thanks for informing me about this. There really was a chain of problems I had to solve.
The dependencies I used in several categories are working in another way than I thought they would, so while fixing that I found another bug, which is also fixed now.

I will release the update as soon as I know, if there is a new bug from the latest game patches, because the sales are now most of the time completely out of the ususal ranges and going negative in the 9-digits.