@Hayden, personally I recommend adding a mod that overhauls the lost into something stronger so that they don't become complete fodder for the chrysallids when they show up.

Something like Lost2Orks, World War L, The Flood or any other mod that buffs them; the longer they last, the less the chryssalids will multiply.

Dang, same with @Killerkitty641 too. Im FL 4. Lost + Infector makes the mission impossible. A single Infector made + 30 enemies.

I liked everything in this except the needle rippers. There is no counter play when they just spawn out of the ground and kamikaze themselves into someone with Bladestorm dealing unavoidable damage.

Interesting mod. The balancing fucking sucks.

why did you think giving the needle ripper 30 defence was a good idea?? like 15 i can see but 30???? these are an enemy spam unit they shouldn't have near high cover levels of defence for free

The needle ripper is very broken, they spawn in a swarm sitreps mission, i count there was at least 30 of them. with their high mobility, defense and damage from explosive needle upon death, they easily wreck my entire team by causing a chain reaction exploding dealing huge amount of damage and unavoidable.

The ones involving civvies are a bit BS, since they get a significant headstart on infecting them and boosting their numbers before you even get into the area, and I've seen them move like 20 tiles across the map just to say "fuck you" to a unit they couldn't possibly have seen before that turn.

Does anyone know why alternate terror missions like the one in this mod are bugged to cause no civilians to spawn? The vanilla one works

I highly recommend for anyone trying this mod out to also download some other mod that buffs or overhauls the lost in one way or another, otherwise they become infinite bug food.

i never get any of the special mission asides from the survivor one and may the crates, but sometimes the survivor one crashes

I think I'll agree with Killerkitty641 too. Today, Advent did a lot of "explosive" things in one of my missions. Because of this, a bunch of Lost appeared on the map. They were killed by the Krissalids, which caused even more Krissalids to appear. As a result, it all ended with the fact that at some point the game completely crashed and the save can no longer load. And since I played in Terminator mode, I'll have to start all over again, but just in case without this mod. Be careful!

I agree with Killerkitty641 immediately below. Its too much when they spawn off of lost.

Not only is it the "because fuck you chump lol" style of difficulty, the massive number of units it produces will cause stability issues with running the program.

Okay so I love this mod but there needs to be some tweaks, based on my recent experiences:

1 - Chryssalids should NOT be able to infect the lost. It makes very little sense given that they're literal rotten zombies. I get the base game Chryssalids can infect them with posion, but the infectors shouldn't be able to at least. They bloat in numbers super quick and make missions with the lost completely impossible.

2 - Units from gestation pools should not be able to act the same turn they spawn. Even advent reinforcements only get a movement/overwatch action, Chryssalids being able to spawn and attack in the same turn breaks the game flow.

I fixed the hive enemies being replaced, but now whenever I have a Mission related to this mod, there's no enemies whatsoever. Going to delete config folder again hoping it fixes it :)

For some reason when I encounter the "hive" I actually find mechs & common enemies taking it's place. So I find 10ish mechs & troopers pods. I believe it has something to do with ABA. Does anyone have a solution?

@Other users of The Hive More
Covert Infiltration provides the player with a lot more choice over what missions to accept. While I agree that some missions with both the Hive and lost are more than a little difficult, Covert Infiltration can alleviate the issue to some extent. If the mission does not have a remote evacuation zone, retreat, if necessary, is always an option. If the mission has large numbers of the Hive and a remote evacuation zone, then it is better to invest in a different mission. In Covert Infiltration few missions are required.

Damn, this makes stuff rather difficult. For sure recommend if you wanna feel pain, but dont use it if you're like me and get pissed easily.

The hive literally break missions with the lost since it transform them into rippers: DO NOT INSTALL THIS!!!! :(

Can someone make a Covert overhaul mod for this mod?
even though is it listed as compatible it also say's it needs manual edits for it to work which I'm not comfortable with.
(though luckily someone posted it in the Covert overhaul mod on what to do)

i mean they r both good mods,but i almost got fxxked.

dont activate this mod and worldwarlost at a same time in legendary,or in Hive Ambush mission u'll be fxxked.

The Feral ones already are

is there a way i can make the Chryssalids hostile to advent?

Depends on what team the HIVE spawn in on. They can be either hostile or friendly towards ADVENT, though there is a recent mod that forces them to be hostile (HIVE ALL Gone Feral)

does the hive attack advent forces as well or just u?

Dang I beat a Hive Siege, then the game crashed while I was loading back to base. I try to load on an autosave for that mission, the game crashes again. Gangshit!

Yes. HIVE get added to eTeam_One, this mod has no effect on the Lost

is this mod compatible with anything that changes the lost?

The ForceCompleteObjective console command only works for STRATEGY objectives, not tactical ones.

You want either KillAllAis to kill those units
or
X2AllowSelectAll true , TAB/SHIFT to the unit and then use ttc to put them in a valid spot (and then X2AllowSelectAll false to continue the mission)

What's the objective Id for the fishing town mission? Some chryslids glitched inside of the wall and I cannot reach them

Okay. This, in conjunction with WWL does turn the 'Gather Survivor' missions into a low-poly slideshow. However, when using a 'melee counts as headshots' mod, all of your melee units (IE: anything with a sword, and especially templars) ascend to gods of war, completely unrestrained by such trivialities as 'reloading'. Third mission of a new playthrough saw an astounding '7 kills per turn' ratio.

Hi. I was wondering if there are any ini edits I could make to stop HIve from appearing during Lost missions? my game turns into a grindy slideshow when they're both on the map

@Wild caT Слушай бро, у тебя там доступ закрыт по ссылке)

Русификатор.
В некоторых названиях не разобрался т.к. сам все миссии ещё не видел. Так что поправьте если кто-то знает чё там за "Разрушитель" такой, который "the disruptor".
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1uOcYiHxnhT_90KLVohRkFKuE8IFjMp4i/view?usp=sharing

I am wondering if there's something I can edit in the files of this mod to increase the uses of abilities on the brood gauntlet? I really want to have more of those little bastards :d

Thanks, @Dragon32.

@RAVVSlathotep
I don't think there's anything to change. If you're using A Better ADVENT there is. I'm using A Better AI with The Hive and haven't noticed any AI problems.

I can't find the settings in XComAI.ini that I need to disable in A Better AI to make it work with the Hive. There seems to basically be nothing mentioning Chryssies there. Could I be pointed in the right direction, please?

Cut-Content ... it was being worked on, then the mod authors decided to comment it all out :)
Who knows for what reason, maybe it's not finished

[XComGame.X2Character_DefaultCharacters]

;[CXHiveWhale X2CharacterTemplate]
;+CharacterBaseStats[eStat_AlertLevel]=2
;+CharacterBaseStats[eStat_ArmorChance]=0
;+CharacterBaseStats[eStat_ArmorMitigation]=0
;+CharacterBaseStats[eStat_ArmorPiercing]=0
;+CharacterBaseStats[eStat_CritChance]=0
;+CharacterBaseStats[eStat_Defense]=0
;+CharacterBaseStats[eStat_Dodge]=0
;+CharacterBaseStats[eStat_HP]=500
;+CharacterBaseStats[eStat_Mobility]=0
;+CharacterBaseStats[eStat_Offense]=0
;+CharacterBaseStats[eStat_PsiOffense]=0
;+CharacterBaseStats[eStat_ReserveActionPoints]=0
;+CharacterBaseStats[eStat_SightRadius]=0
;+CharacterBaseStats[eStat_DetectionRadius]=0
;+CharacterBaseStats[eStat_UtilityItems]=1
;+CharacterBaseStats[eStat_Will]=0
;+CharacterBaseStats[eStat_HackDefense]=0
;+CharacterBaseStats[eStat_FlankingCritChance]=0
;+CharacterBaseStats[eStat_FlankingAimBonus]=0
;+CharacterBaseStats[eStat_Strength]=100
;+XpKillScore=40.5
;+DirectXpAmount=10




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ABA has some settings for chryssalids that breaks the AI of the hive.. if you want to use them together you will have to deactivate the AI settings for chryssalids in ABA

@Imperador de Olinda
If you're using ABA I think you need to edit XComAI.ini, check the main Hive mod's page

they don't attack

Is there a way to give rippers the same status as the lost, so once one you kill dont count a 1 kill.
When you have alot of em on the map it make it so easy to level up fast.

@MrShadowCX Question: Are there any plans to make Bio Division 2.0, More Robots and The Hive More fully compatible with the new strategy overhaul mods. I noticed that The Hive More requires an edit and More Robots requires a bridge.

the game kept getting stuck on the ripper swarm mission - in the fancy cutscene things of annoyance, any ideas what can cause this or is that run just doomed?

The required steps are highlighted in the CI Compatibility Document's tab for HIVE More.
Please see this link here [docs.google.com]

@MrShadowCX What is the edit to make this compatible with the new strategic overhaul mods?

@EQandcivfanatic
Try KillAllAIs

https://www.ufopaedia.org/index.php/Console_Commands_(LW2)

What is the force complete objective commands for this mod? I'm currently stuck in a terror mission wherein I've rescued all the civilians, cleared the map, but it still has the Alien Activity turn, with no sign of any actual aliens. It says to "Stop the Chrysalid Advance." What is the force complete objective for that, so that I can move on?