I didn't use your names. I used names from the Culture series by doing online research and finding the names. You don't own these names any more than I do. Iain Banks owns them, and if his estate asks me to not use them, I won't.

Once I had a training set of names, I then made a set of names up myself that sounded like culture names, because there simply aren't enough names in the culture series to satisfy the needs of a game like this.

Once I had this set of names, I used that to train an AI as to what I expected. This was not a "push a button" experience. I also spent 40+ hours of my time, for free, writing code that would translate the names into 9 languages so that people all over the world could use my name lists.

So no, I didn't download your names and put them into my name list. I didn't need to. It would be nice if, in spending all this time thinking about this, you also reached out and had a conversation.

After giving it a lot of thought (yes I am here I'm just a SEVERE Avoidant. Like, Gestra Ishmethit had the ideal life to my eyes...) Sorry, ah- After giving it a deal of thought, I'm not happy with the idea of allowing my names list to be put in with AI generated names.
The reason being; each and every one on my list are from an actual person, just like every Ship name in the books is from Iain M. Banks himself. These have a meaning, even if it's just a meatbag behind the curtain.
Pushing a button and getting a thousand names is not effort; it is pushing a button. You are taking a helicopter to the top of the mountain and asking me why I'm breathing so hard and carrying an ice axe.
I don't mind you building a list, but not with my names, thank you.

@mightynintendo thanks for the tip! I may do a Culture namelist of my own, but I've got about 6 or 7 in development (along with translations for localization) right now to add to my mod. I figured if that if Saturnine wanted this one to be updated and maintained I'd oblige. The author of US Grand Namelists doesn't play anymore and gave me permission to update and incorporate. About ChatGPT, yeah, my mod has one completely generated by ChatGPT, and I use it to either to look up information or generate names when a certain theme can't provide enough.

@Osiris i just wanted to mention that if you want to include Culture names in your mod you don't need permission from this mod's author. There is an existing ship name-list that's open source at https://theculture.fandom.com/wiki/List_of_spacecraft and characters are here: https://theculture.fandom.com/wiki/Category:Characters but there aren't really enough book characters in the series for a full game but now that ChatGPT is available one could probably get it to provide character names inspired by the culture series... Also: thank you for your work on namelists. i find the vanilla lists are incredibly unremarkable and it's really nice of you to provide tools to improve on this aspect of the game.

@Saturnine I have a writeup here to help deal with some of the things 3.6 broke with namelists. https://github.com/Osiris1975/namelist-mod-gen

I really should update, though I've had the game uninstalled for a bit.
I'll plug back in and get things up-to-date.

@Saturnine do you intend to update this mod for 3.6? Ive figured out the fixes for what 3.6 broke for my own namelist mod. If you don't intend to fix this may I incorporate your namelist into my mod with full attribution to you in the description?

@wtcw the names are based off the books by Iain M Banks that make up what is known as the "Culture Series" in science fiction. the name "culture" comes from what the dominant galactic power calls itself ("culture space", "culture ships", "culture lifestyle", "panhuman culture humanoid", etc. Ship names come from the ships themselves. all ships in culture space are built with a sentient AI that, as it grows and experiences the universe, will ultimately choose a name for itself or other ships will begin calling it something and the name just sticks. Because many of the minds like to amuse themselves with nonsensical humor, they find it silly and fun to name themselves in ways that catch common cliches and use them to say something about themselves or, alternatively, a lot of ship names are just message subject lines from emails sent back and forth between multiple ships.

okay so what are these books? these names are hilarious and utterly absurd

heres some name suggestions
Here I Am At Camp Granada
Please Don't Kick It Next Time
I'm Pretty Sure That's A Violation
I Don't Think It Should Blow Up Like That
Don't Blame Me If Your Ship Gets Violently Disassembled
I'm A Pain On Logistics For My Enemies & Allies

Ah, gotcha. Thank you for the quick response. Thank you for also bringing this together. I will try this in my next run!

@Dinuvar; afraid not. Paradox in their ineffable wisdom has decided names lists break the game and so disable achievements if you have the audacity to activate one.

Tried this one, but i think it disabled achievements. Is there a way around that?

Thank you so much for this wonderful mod!

+1 for Enigmatic Interlude

Haha, those are pretty good for an AI. Sure thing; more names more better, just let me know when it's out so I can take a peek!

Hi Saturnine, really love this mod. It inspired me to train an AI called GPT-Neo to invent ship names in the style of the The Culture. In one day of processor crunching it came up with a few thousand, which I'm now organising into a mod. It also invented unusual names for planets and leaders that aren't faithful to The Culture specifically but still fit thematically. I'd like your permission to also include the names you/reddit came up with.

For a taste, here's some examples the AI invented: One Last Stab For The Fun Of It, This Isn't Your Big Chance, The Dead Don't Get Stalked, Ambivalent On Utopian Visions, Please Don't Eat The Garbage, Shiny Things In A Big Box, The Incompleat, All The Good News Goes To Hell, Enigmatic Interlude, Irritation Of Authority, Useless Gestures Are Appreciated, Abandon All Hoopla, Bad Luck To Destroy Me

Howdy; it is working fine but I am in the process of hunting down a bug before I update to the official 3.0.3 marker. Further Stellaris updates won't affect name lists unless they do something really wild.

Thank you very much for the mod! I see it's been recently updated. Is the latest version meant to be compatible with Stellaris 3.0.*?

awesome, thank you @Saturnine :)

https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2492779865

@JerichoJade, @xika - the NSC2 adaption is working.

Glad to hear :)

Btw, killing the mod description with each submission is not only a problem here. I make maps for They are Billions and after each update I have to fix the description in the workshop.

I have not and I really should given how long ago I said I would. Consider it top of the To-Do list, followed by saving a complete and comprehensive mod description so it can never be killed by Paradox or Steam ever again.

We'll let Microsoft destroy our hopes and dreams, as nature intended.

hi saturnine, did you manage to get NSC support in with the may 10th update?
(I just wanted to ask before I start a new game.)

If you haven't: I've looked into it a bit and it seems that one fast (not perfect) solution would be to fill out the generic group for ship_name and ship_class.

@Saturnine You can find it pretty easily. (-NSC2 Season 5-)

I keep forgetting to look into that- I will get to it sometime in the near future, @JerichoJade. I am pretty sure I can get those in here and I'd also like that mod, too.

@Saturnine
NSC is mod. New Ship Classes. It adds stuff like dreadnoughts, flagships, and other stuff.

I find it terribly interesting because of the intrigue, plots, and the very concept of psychohistory. That's too bad you aren't into it enough to make a name list, but thats ok.

@JerichoJade
I'm not sure what that is. If it has any relation to Ironman mode you are out of luck- there's nothing a namelist can do to work with it.

@MayhemX8
I feel a bit ashamed to admit this, but I'm not much into Foundation... I've been trying but it just doesn't grab me enough. Possibly because there are not enough explosions.

any chance you could create a name list based off of Asmimov's "Foundation" series?

Any chance you might be able to add NSC compatibility?

@Meister Kyrus-Tom
I will update it to 2.7 shortly, but this list will work fine with new versions even so. Names lists are very simple files and don't really change from version to version, save to 2.6 when Paradox stopped commas from ruining my life.

Cheers!

hey, will you do an update for 2.7? or will it work with this version?

No worries! Glad it works for ya.

Much after the fact, it was because I had the old mod as well, even though it wasn't loaded. Sorry. =)

@Mosrael Be sure to turn off the Outdated mod? It should be showing up, but then it should be using the correct name.

Alternately, check the rest of your list and see if it corrected itself. At this point anything is possible.

This doesn't even display as an option on the names list for me for some reason. The one labelled as out of date does though?

Amazing

Thanks for this!