Awaiting 1.6 update!

@che_lovek I also get that bug, I just never thought to report it because I think it's kind of interesting to have breakups be so devastating, and also because I forgor.

Cant wait for an update, thanks for the work <3

update?

@Che_lovek should be? I don't know if I can disable updates or anything.

It could be a bizarre interaction with another mod, I guess, but I wouldn't know which.

@greatorder Are you sure you are using the current version? What you described was indeed a bug, but it was fixed long time ago

Best Mod.

I have to assume it's this mod adding it, I can't think of another that might, but I seem to double stack breakup/divorce mood debuffs. I get the vanilla one, and then one I'm pretty sure is from this mod.

One of my guys has a -30 debuff of "I miss you... please come back" on top of a -32 debuff of "We made a commitment, and they just tore it apart"

since an author has shown up, would you be able to shed some light on how one of my colonists had a -81 mood debuff and had a mental break for complaining to the mayor 6 times? Mind you this happened despite being in catharsis (+40) and with low expectations (+30) - not mentioning impressive rooms and lavish meals. I have a screen capture of right before he died. I've had elections turned off since but that's something I hope would be addressed if you're supporting this in 1.6. The settings were not displaying properly when I went to disable elections as well.

This is not safe to uninstall if your game is an unholy mod obelisk.

I am trapped in a snare of my own creation

(The UI is missing, it could be associated to the UI mods I use. Or not. I do not know, and I'm going to just try and soldier through with a mayor who won with 0 votes in a tie, who has a social skill of literally 1. I will find a way to make this make sense narratively.)

The mayor thing is just so removed from everything else in this mod that I believe it should be a separate mod.

I hope that you get whatever assistance you need to rework / revamp / redux / remaster / remake this mod because I very much like the concept of my pawns having a very deep personality and traits, even if they offer very little actual gameplay changes but heavily influence social interactions between pawns.

Thanks for the clarification man, and thank you for keeping this ancient relic alive for those who use it haha

@Bruh Moment I don't think you need do. You'll get a couple of errors in console, but eventually the game will clear out all the missing stuff by itself.

Do we need to change anything from the save before removing it, like do we need a mental break ended or no mayor's office selected?

@Peluceus Donmian It is safe.

@Thssthfok Yeah this mods problem might be that it is a bit too complex. Definetely the most difficult code base I've seen in a while

Is this safe to uninstall mid save? i'm reading the comments and I'm running a LOT of mods, so I think if it isn't too late I just won't chance it.

@che_lovek yeah after rereading my comment i realized that a lot of my own frustration with rimworld mod coding was packed in there, i guess the sheer size of this mod is just naturally going to be frustrating to work with, especially when one such as myself starts tinkering with it for the first time in 1.5.

@Thssthfok The codebase was rewritten by WILDCARD in 1.4 version. So aside from elections related stuff I would say it's not that bad. I play with this mod regulary and don't get any issues/perfomance drops.

I do agree though that a redisign is needed. Part of the problem is that back in 0.7 when this mod was first released the pawns were less complex than they are now with all the DLCs, so some stuff is definitely redundant.

@Sephira jo @LifeIsAbxtch I'll update it, unless 1.6 breaks this mod too much (it shouldn't)

this mod barely worked in 1.5, a 1.6 update will be mildly functional at best.

this mod would be best redesigned from the ground up, the mayor stuff is so broken, ive tried to mess with the codebase at least 8 times trying to fix it and got nowhere. theres harmony-based methods/functions that are attempting to overwrite functions that dont exist anywhere in the rimworld codebase (nor did they match up to anything in the old modding primer migration guides), its a mess.

but thats to be expected for a mod that was written back in 1.0, was ported to 1.1 by someone else, and subsequently patched for 1.2, 1.3 etc. its hard to say when things even became broken.

sometimes a jenga tower will fall no matter how carefully you try to place a new block on top.

I really hope this gets a 1.6 update before the drop next month <3

Can you please update this mod to 1.6, if you can...🙏

Yeah one of my slaves decided he'd run for mayor so I'll be turning that off and thank you for mentioning it. Also the mod setting for elections only actually displayed its particular settings after I clicked into some of the other settings and back. Not sure if the settings for the mod are semi broken for all but this allowed me to turn off elections.

The mod settings exist, but when I click on the table of contents it doesn't show any options. Elections are like other peoples broken, I think this happens when I disable the ideology system in the vanilla dlc.

mayor system has been broken for a while, you should disable it

anyway this mod is essentially on life support so people can just use it for future versions

Tom wandered too close to the resident mech cluster. Neck deleted. Guess I need to find a new abbot.

Why in all of the rimworlds does my colonist have -81 mood debuff for complaining to the mayor 6 times? D: Tom is currently running wild and removing all of his clothes and I wondered why...

In my case the mod was the reason of constant performance stutters. (found out in the dev console)
I turned it off and now the game feels way more responsive.
Not sure about you can't remove it from a save. Mine works just fine, but maybe it's because I installed it mid-save too.

@Rosadrop yeah, i mean it is a pretty complex mod. On top of rimworld "f it" approach to modding api documentation, it makes it difficult to even know where to begin as far as fixing how it works.

The "story generation" is... well, it's not wrong, but it has a pretty narrow understanding of what a story is. Basically, the storytelling aspect is shooting and looting, and maybe an occasional marriage. The human interaction part is extremely simplistic and lacking in basic storytelling tropes. Psychology is definitely a step in the right direction to fix this.

You should add information that you can't remove it safely from a save.

And yes, a mod like psychology that fits with huge mod lists is dearly dearly missed ;(

I have to say it's kinda insane that no mod ever even tried to establish a pawn-personality interaction system as psychology did, and that in almost 7 years. Not even tried to (at least to my knowledge). Which is just crazy, if you take the fact rimworld is mainly branded as a story generator game, yet it lacks the ability for the individuality of its pawn to matter in story generation. Kinda wild tbh

Why is everyone talking about this mod being dead? It seems to work fine for me

R.I.P. Dead mod.

As much as I loved this mod, it was breaking ideology preacher from being able to convert, as well as affecting VE psycast ability interactions between pawns. Removed it and those problems straightened up. Sad to see it go from my mod list.

welp, this shit aint ever gonna get updated.

Did this mod break cooking for anyone else?

Prepare carefully is badly broken. Do not use it, download character editor instead

Any chance for prepare carefully support?

Heads up: currently, this generates a lot of errors if loaded without Ideology. I just posted a solution on the "BUG reports" discussion.

is anyone aware of how to toggle aromantic / asexual status for a pawn? just curious if that's a thing that we can do

yup @big time there's a setting in the mod settings for elections

Is there a way to disable elections? The rest of the mod is great but I keep having 0 socials running for mayor and ruining everyone's mood. Also, no one is able to vote so it goes 50/50 for the outcome.

How does this work with vanilla social interactions expanded and vanilla backstories expanded?

A desensitized space marine would absolutely try to find love with other pawns, but it would most likely not be very "romantic"

They would likely just "take" the love by force.

One of my pawn with 'test subjects, Space marine'backstory and 'Desensitized' traits, had extremely high romantic needs. And she's constantly trying to find love with other pawns. I don't think is appropriate.

我的一名身世“实验对象、冷酷星际战士”，特性“冷漠”的小兵居然有着极高的浪漫需求，以至于她开始到处向其他小兵告白。我觉得不是很对。

I'm having the same error as @-=JkJkLoL=- tk421storm, literally my only problem with this mod

thanks for keeping this up to date! is there a github anywhere? i'm seeing an error around "hanging out with someone" - when that someone is a child, i believe there needs to be a check around which rec activity they can participate in

Having an issue on 1.5 where having this mod installed (even with nothing else but its dependencies and the vanilla cores) causes only a couple of settlements to spawn on the world map, makes it unusable for me sadly :(