Transport Fever 2

Transport Fever 2

UK 3rd rail track speeds - No Catenary
40 Comments
Bigyin 28 Aug, 2020 @ 8:55am 
got it working fine what I did is put the Electrified third rail first then the 3rd rail track speed then it works what I'm not sure is if another mod caused the issue so am just checking that.
Mad Hatter  [author] 28 Aug, 2020 @ 3:46am 
hmmmm - yep this ones on my list to redo - The last urban update sort of killed the need for this mod because vanilla TPF will let you place moded tracks in stations but its also change the way the modded tracks work and you end up with a ton of purple dots for all the different track speeds and of course all those purple dots aren't just my tracks. The original third rail mod that this is built on is also now appearing as a set of purple dots just to cause even more confusion.
Bigyin 27 Aug, 2020 @ 12:30pm 
What I'm getting is "internal error (see Console for details)" which I wasn't getting before any help with this..
Bigyin 27 Aug, 2020 @ 12:23pm 
Hi mad hatter, I having some trouble with you 3rd rail mod that I never had before. Ti is happening when trying to replace station track it was working fine before but I'm now getting an error, there also seams to be a lot more track like 40 when there was only 1 before.
Bigyin 25 May, 2020 @ 7:12pm 
If your trying to get no catenary in a cargo station just use the UK generic passenger station then remove the passenger platform and replace it with the cargo one and that works
Mad Hatter  [author] 25 May, 2020 @ 2:10pm 
:)
Bigyin 25 May, 2020 @ 11:26am 
P.s. if using other stations and not the 3rd rail station you will get Catenery's in the station
Bigyin 25 May, 2020 @ 11:16am 
I also have a couple of photo's but that works great and NO Catenery's at all...
Bigyin 25 May, 2020 @ 11:14am 
3rd Rail setup and load order

Uk Generic station (passanger) only

Mods and Load order...
1. UK generic country station modules 1.1
2. UK 3rd rail track speed "no catenery"
3. Electrified third rail: United kingdom 1.1
4. UK 3rd rail in station "no catenery"
5. UK 3rd rail in country halt patch
6. UK 3rd rail in generic uk station patch
7. UK generic station modules 1.1

when setting up a 3rd rail system and get no catenery in the station use the "uk generic station" with the 3rd rail, you would be best to change the narrow platform to the standared one this will make it easier for station buildings. This worked for me
Bigyin 25 May, 2020 @ 8:07am 
LOL, Listen it works great I find a way. To be honest I would have thought that the developers would have had a 3rd rail option in the game. If you look at TPF 1 and the mods that were done in that they should have thought of these in TPF2 like curved stations for me the issue is modded stations which works great but the track in the station cant be upgraded like the other track. I will work on it and give you feedback.
Mad Hatter  [author] 25 May, 2020 @ 2:45am 
hi bigyin - no idea to be honest - this is one of those mods where I get a great idea and poke into the tpf2 workings to get it to do something - but the end result is not 100% bullet proof and then I end up wishing I'd never published it.
Bigyin 24 May, 2020 @ 7:51pm 
I got it all working find, just messing about I used the UK rail I'm in 1933 just now and my electric trains are working ok. I used the UK 3rd rail for the stations " I do think I didn't use the UK 3rd rail station" so that might be the issue in the stations I still get the cateneries. any ideas.. but I will check the station
Holendrecht 24 May, 2020 @ 6:57am 
OK
Never Mind @Mad Hatter
You try your Best
My Work on Game after 3 months is gonne.
Broken ...the end
Game Over :[
Mad Hatter  [author] 24 May, 2020 @ 6:36am 
I also every time I configured a station I checked to see if it changed anything in the other stations
It never did this.
Mad Hatter  [author] 24 May, 2020 @ 6:34am 
I have tried to reproduce what has happened to you.

I started a new game.
I loaded the three mods and nothing else.
I put down 5 stations with high speed no catenary tracks.
I linked up three of them and created a line
I linked up the other two and created a line
I ran a train up and down.

Then
On the three station line
I changed all the track to third rail 75 mph track between the stations.
I configured the stations
I removed the existing track in the station and placed 75mph third rail track
I swapped the train to electric
Everything ran fine I do not see the issue you describe

Then
On the two station line
I did the same as above. No issues
I then used the magic wand tool to flip the line types between catenary / no catenary
I still don't see the issue you describe

What did you do that I did not do?

Holendrecht 24 May, 2020 @ 4:14am 
tell me witch part of" .lua " you need to see and i post it here
Mad Hatter  [author] 24 May, 2020 @ 4:03am 
No I'm just interested in the date stamp -
There are two files in that directory trainstationutil.lua and harbourstationutil.lua all I need to know is if the date stamp on both files are the same?

This is the file that the vanilla game uses to put tracks in stations.
This mod does not overwrite it. Neither do any of the mods needed to make this work.
But this mod also can't on its own replace every track in every station just by configuring a single station.

I can stop this mod doing anything but there are 794 other people subscribed.
But I will do everything I can to help you and find out what is causing this.
Holendrecht 24 May, 2020 @ 3:26am 
Shall i send you copie of it?
where?
Mad Hatter  [author] 24 May, 2020 @ 2:51am 
No you have not missed anything. I've looked at the scripts I can not see how this can happen.

Am I understanding properly
You change one station and every station on the map changed to catenary?

Hmmmm. Please can you check the date stamp on this file.

C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Transport Fever 2\res\scripts\modules\trainstationutil.lua
Holendrecht 24 May, 2020 @ 2:22am 
Have 3 enabled

UK 3rd rail in stations - No Catenary
Third Rail Tracks: United Kingdom
UK 3rd rail track speeds - Electrified - No Catenary - MPH

Do i miss somethink?
Mad Hatter  [author] 23 May, 2020 @ 4:30pm 
Hi Holdenrecht - this is a bit worrying.
In the picture above it shows 4 mods enabled.
Don't change anything just tell me if you have those enabled.
Or if just some of them which ones?
Holendrecht 23 May, 2020 @ 2:56pm 
To be specific,
if i wana configurete station -all Stations Track modules have changet to NO Catenary with 48 km
It does not happend to Elevated Staions!
Please Help
Mad Hatter  [author] 23 May, 2020 @ 12:52pm 
I'm not sure I understand how this can happen. This mod replaces the high speed cantenary rail with third rail. Let me have a think about how I can recover this for you.
Holendrecht 23 May, 2020 @ 10:04am 
Thank you ,been looking for sutch a mod!
BUT it just overwrite all my stations into Catenary Stations!
I mean ALL my stations!
I cant remove this mod because it just let crash the game!
Please can you fix it?
Bigyin 6 Apr, 2020 @ 10:36pm 
ok will try that, many thanks
Mad Hatter  [author] 6 Apr, 2020 @ 6:46pm 
just watched constructiongamer demo it here - https://youtu.be/ZvHy-PdQRHk and realised what the problem probably is.

The original Third rail mod that is used by Agohono - didn't electrify anything - which is why I wrote these mods - He had done a lot of work that I really didn't want to replicate. So for this to work properly you need to use the speed restricted 3rd rail between stations not 'third rail' which is the original mod. - hope this helps - BTW constructio0nGamer did the same thing on hi youtube channel.
Bigyin 6 Apr, 2020 @ 2:43pm 
That stations I have been using are the vanilla ones
Mad Hatter  [author] 6 Apr, 2020 @ 4:19am 
I did a very quick test and fired up a new game put down two stations with 3rd rail connected them and ran a line put in a depot and sent a electric train down the line - all worked no issues.
Mad Hatter  [author] 6 Apr, 2020 @ 4:16am 
Also if you are certain that everything is connected with some form of electrified rail then it might be worth unsubscribing and resubscribing. - Only because the symptom you describe was there very briefly with the very very first version of this mod. - Steam should auto update mods for you unless you have that switched off.
Mad Hatter  [author] 6 Apr, 2020 @ 4:13am 
Hi BigYin - The two patch mods were for the UK Generic stations and the UK Country Halt station - basically each modular station no matter who created it would need a patch to let you put third rail in it. I obviously did them for mine :) - And this one for the vanilla stations.
Just realised looking at the screenshot I put up - you only need three mods to get this working for vanilla stations.

Electrified Third rail.
UK Third rail track speeds.
UK 3rd rail in stations.

The order shouldn't matter - but if it did matter, do them in this order as that's the order the game will pick them up in.
Bigyin 6 Apr, 2020 @ 3:04am 
ok, Mad Hatter thanks will keep working on it, I have them 1, 2, 3, and 4 start just one question I seen 2 patch files do I also need them for it to run, but there may be another mod interfering with it.
Mad Hatter  [author] 6 Apr, 2020 @ 12:22am 
Hi Bigyin - Yes you are right it does look odd in the stations but that's just a graphical glitch caused by a bug in the game itself. The track gets placed left then right through the station. However there is no issue with it electrifying as far as I can see.
Bigyin 5 Apr, 2020 @ 7:08pm 
hi guy's, having a bit of difficulty getting this to work All tracks have the electrified 3rd rail and used the UK 3rd rail station mode But I'm getting no electrical connection. I have also made sure the the mods are installed as above. But what I have noticed is that the 3rd rail in the stations are staggered instead of one straight line should this be like this.other than that everything looks ok
Challenger2 30 Mar, 2020 @ 4:22am 
Great mod, but I was wondering if the spee dlimit for the track could track to the normal vanilla speed instead of the 30mph? Thanks
Mad Hatter  [author] 29 Mar, 2020 @ 2:09pm 
Hi something cool - I guess so - It would be tricky and possibly confusing for some because I've had to repurpose the high speed with catenary to get this to work and as mods go this one is causing more confusion and trouble than anything I've ever done so I'm not really wanting to make it any worse.
SomethingCool 29 Mar, 2020 @ 9:28am 
Is it possible to have a station platform with both Catenary and 3rd Rail?
KowalskiThePenguin 28 Mar, 2020 @ 9:23am 
Thats brilliant, the UK stations is the one that mattered the most. Thanks for all your work
Mad Hatter  [author] 27 Mar, 2020 @ 9:37pm 
Hi 1499 | H.Dower - I will find a way to add third rail to my own UK Generic stations mod but because of the non modular way that Urban have written the modular station code i can't add it to the NL Modular station.
KowalskiThePenguin 27 Mar, 2020 @ 8:28pm 
(+ And potentially the NL Modular Station? I know its a massive ask, understand if it can't be done)
KowalskiThePenguin 27 Mar, 2020 @ 4:16pm 
Huge ask, but any chance you could add another dependency and potentially edit the code so your UK modular stations could have the 3rd rail too?