@Kuura-Meow Happy to hear that! I might make few more stand-alone addons out of it at some point. (and Rocket is the best )

@Kuura-Meow are you playing realism expert or campaign expert? if yes you can add me, we are playing nesrealism regularly on expert difficulty

just wanted to say i've had loads of fun with this mutation, its by far my favourite custom mutation i've ever played. very underrated in my opinion

but alas, i have no friends who would play this with me. so some maps are just too crazy even on easy mode. that's a me problem though, not yours. however...

i've noticed you've made some standalone versions of this mod's changes, which is awesome, thank you <3 but i'd love some more! stuff like the AWP buff (seriously it's soooo much fun to use now) limited ammo piles, witch adrenaline, better special ammo. they're so good and would make for a great customisable experience.

again, thanks for the great game mode ^.^ (and i agree rocket racco0n is very cool)

ok

You can try. I don't use that so I can't tell if there will be any issues

@Nescius Can I have this work alongside the all 8 survivor sourcemod by @Raizen that I manually installed?? I'm quite curious if together they'll cause game crashes or what-not.

..i´m just not good enough

Knowing how to kill the tanks well is part of the mutation. Check the Share playthrough discussion for videos how guys completed all campaigns duo on expert. You can kill bosses really fast with good strategy and cooperation and there are lot of additions to help with killing the bosses faster like quite a lot stronger special ammo, bile jars stunning tanks, oxygen/propanes doing 2k damage etc. Learning to kill tanks with melee is big part of the mutation too and after you are good at that with a good team having less tanks becomes boring

could you make a setting or something where there isnt just a fuck load of tank spam? The changes are interesting but its basically pointless if you just throw bosses none stop.

dingleberry

Nice, thanks

Planning to do that. I actually already have 90% finished version of that special ammo as its own addon sitting in my work folder for few months

Could you separate your special ammo edits by any chance?

Added user setting that can prevent bot stealing behaviour. Check the end of description for more info

Everytime it's happened, the long standing up animation gets me killed anyway. (It's always happening when a there's a horde plus tanks, so I usually can't get up in time to save myself anyway so I figured I may as well just ask if I could turn it off altogether)

I can make that into a user setting. It happens automatically currently only if the alternative is losing the chapter. I wonder why would you want to turn that off ?

Is it possible to not steal a bot each time you die?

and patience

@Ali the Monster Killer, shouldn't have even try it then. I occasionally play this mutation with Mr. Nescius himself and my other friends and we all pretty much agree that it's imbalanced. However, it is still doable, some crazies even took on duo runs and managed to beat it. I'd say this mutation is the ultimate challenge to your skills.

Well that was just a too hard mode for me . And have nothing to do with realism

The main purpose was having more bosses (tanks or witches) in all chapters and under any circumstances. Other than that the changes are listed in the description

What's the main purpose of this mode

yea hard rain can be a bitch because of the revisiting of previous chapters :d I am planning at some point to finally make it so that items you drop in 1st and 2nd chapter will also transition properly to the rest. Currently only the items you left untouched transition

Playing ANY campaing:
-keep close to your teammates so its easier to kill all 6 SI
-preserve and share ammo piles
-cooperate with your fellow survivors to kill tanks taking minimum damage
-help killing witches with melee or stun locking her so there wont be bride
-save ammo upgrades in case there will be tank on rush event
-play it slow and steady so a random tank wont ambush you if you decide to rush
-have unforgettable expirience fighting harder finales
Playing Hard rain ch3-ch5:
- play a game of tag with 3-6 tanks per chapter
- shoot witch to get adrenaline boost for 1 minite, trust me, you need that speed even if its bride
-restart same chapter over and over until there wont be a tank in front of saferoom in chap 3
-be the lone survivor of chap 3 only to find out that next chapter your crew goes with 9mms, cus you wasted all to get past chapter 2
- fight the easiest finale among all campaings to get bamboozled by escape tank
- dont duo it for christ sake

Yeah, as an optional thing, it would be even better. More flexibility never hurts.

That’s not bad idea though it would be annoying sometimes when you want to refill fast. May possibly add it as a new bind later

Nah, I mean not 25% for full capacity refill, but one click will take 25% of ammo pile to refill 25% of ammo capacity. That way you can equally share a single pile instead of having someone take the whole pile at once.

That’s too much ammo. Having less ammo is intentional so players are sometimes forced to pick new weapon possibly even having to give up one with lasers

Decent solution, but that will still enforce the melee as much as it did before.
Nah, scratch that. This is actually a perfect solution. Just let the tier 1 guys pick the ammo first. But maybe you should also make it to pick up 25% per press, since you know, 4 players*25=100%. If the others don't need it, they can just leave it to whoever needs it more.

At first I didn't like the idea of 200% ammo piles but then I realized I can just halve the ammo cost of tier 1 weapons instead. So updated the mutation right away :d tier 1 weapons and scout now take 50% of the ammo pile to fully replenish

Great mutation, pretty balanced. Playing with 4 friends, who know what to do, felt like some new fresh experience. However, there are some things I wish you would consider changing:

This mutation favours melee usage too much, and I wouldn't have problem with that if the melee was limited too. My friends, who always overuse melee, bullied most of the tanks to death with it, practically making it melee practice simulator. You did mention that you won't have enough bullets to take them down here, so I suppose it's a correct approach, but still. Having 200% ammo piles would be great. I'm Uzi guy in realism and use melee only for self-defense, so I was surprised that after picking ammo pile to refill my uzi, I dried it completely.

@Hiuman https://youtu.be/LnLr_vGL6aY

Oh, very quick work, I tip my virtual hat to you! Thank you.

Oh nice thank you

As you wish https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2867049038

Yello', I've liked the change in the weapons being in portions of only one for realism's sake. But could there be any possibility for that function to be a script on it's own? Or is it perhaps tied to it having to be a part of an mutation?

this is so crazy , thank you for your work .if we play, we can invite to me , i will gratefull to you.

I don't think so. I play it regularly so maybe I'll do sometimes

Has there been a YouTube upload that showcases a full campaign run with this mutation?

This shit so gay i spendt my defib on u man and u left me to die, nah im jk, i like this mutation

Awesome mutation, very recommended to play. Really nice job

Ah Jeez man. Ur scaring me

HI ! thx for the update, can't wait to try it