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In the older versions, there was an exploit where if a tire burst, a detonator would cause a hard reset on the tire's data, and cause it to re-inflate. It no longer works in newer updates, but the part remains as a reminder of what was.

Why are there detonators on the wheels?

It’s all fun and games till I figure out how to get my new armor design to work I have a prototype but there’s a crippling weakness that I need to fix with the treads

Umbreon Tank: BOOM!

im currently making a vehicle to counter it

I understand that it doesn’t work perfectly. Heavy weapons will naturally be overkill against things less durable than the intended target. There’s no way to counteract that effect.

What I fail to understand is why you don’t just spawn a different type of machine. The tank is able to counter light vehicles and other tanks. When someone spawns an anti tank machine, the best action is to counter that, too.

Conquest is very cyclical like that. If the PTR is annihilating your tanks, then you should spawn something to counter it. It’s not overpowered. It’s specialized.

I don’t get why you’re putting up this much of a fight over a quad bike with a nitro shell. The rocket only has 4 explosives, and that includes the jets.

theres another game, called Space Engineers, an argument with someone there was that all stealth tactics are cheating and that nobody should ever build anything expensive, because he has a cheap counter to everything there.

the only problem was that he would never fight his cheap designs or whatever else against anyone else outside of HIS ruleset and nothing else

the whole issue that i have with this is that ive heard and seen it not work against a lot of the things you say that it will counter, but completely level things that are built, as you would call it, "fairly" and instead of trying to educate the community that there are other options, you are just creating something to slap a piece of duct tape over the hole in the dam of lies

A. theres a lot of little kids who play this game, so they dont ever spawn anything because they need to, they only do it because they want to

B. if your whole argument is that this is a purely anti-tank vehicle and i should go for an aircraft, then you are basically saying the exact same thing that i said, "move on to something else"

C. nothing that i have gets ripped to shreds by a nitro rocket, unless you have smacked more explosives in to a small package than normally can fit, which is basically doing the exact same thing you are trying to fight

D. "better vehicles that are built fairly" doesnt apply if the only other ground vehicle that will be able to counter it is something that you consider to be OP, i should never HAVE to choose something because you want me to choose something else, the only exception is to choose another server, but if you are trying to get EVERYONE to use this, then even that falls apart

I understand where you're coming from, but this is not an OP vehicle. It's a quad bike with a rocket attached to it. If you can't counter this, then you need to engineer better vehicles that are built fairly. If you were using fair machines, people wouldn't risk the 1,105u this thing costs to spawn. They're spawning it because they need to.

You're also forgetting that this is anti-tank. It's designed for one thing, and one thing only. An aerial counter is beyond easy for this, and I even have a jetpack uploaded that makes quick work of this. Plus, The PTR's only got one rocket. Remember that if it misses, it can't recover.

You need to remember that this is designed to counter any tanks, regardless of whether or not they're bricks of metal. If you're struggling because you're on the receiving end of the PTR, don't spawn another tank. Scrap your machine and spawn something that wouldn't get ripped to shreds by a nitro rocket. The PTR is a ground vehicle that can't aim up.

plus, there is a vote-to-kick system. it actually works. if the game is almost completely supertanks then you have no say in trying to force your ideals on them, let them play the way they want to. but if its not, and everyone wants them gone, the kicking system will work

believe it or not, someone who is kicked will NOT be able to rejoin until a completely new session of the game itself is created, bugs/exploits/hacking excluded, as you cant completely counter those

hope? what happens once the cheap tank players move on to this and then now my legitimate vehicles are now completely useless because i now have super tanks on one side and a tank buster on the other?

if the ONLY reason is to counter super-cheap vehicles that seem overpowered, id suggest removing it. and instead trying to educate the community.

fighting overpowered with overpowered makes hope completely unattainable. especially if, somehow, your "overpowered" doesnt work, and theirs does.

what ive found is that if theres a game you dont like and you leave, people tend to follow, joining you if you make one yourself. popularity is short-lived when its not enjoyable.

i tested the PTR on my tungsten tank. if it hits the armour plates on the rear it just damages the tank.

it destroyed the wheels but if the gun was a bit more armoured the PTR would barely have an effect on my WOLF I B.

I get where you're all coming from. In my experience, though, hosts usually just let people get away with super cheap tungsten tanks that completely resist all sorts of normal attacks. I made the PTR to try to give the players in Conquest a bit of hope.

Tungsten is strong, But I preformed an experiment, making a tung. Vehicle and a Steel vehicle, I hit them both in the same place with the RPG, The tung. took more damage then steel. But overall Tung is Silly and doesn't need to be allowed in Conquest and battle

well i only used sizable for the turret i think. i also added armour skirts (like on the PZ.IV H) and because i didnt know much about building tanks back then the turret is open top.
but it isnt good against infantry because i didnt add a turret MG.

its usually pretty clear when someone is intentionally trying to ruion everyone else's fun, but the difference im trying to make is that normally, tungsten and gold dont make a tank overpowered, a single RPG can blow a hole in tungsten in one hit, which is the exact purpose of why the RPG exists, to counter armor. if you want something that you can shoot through with small arms, build with wood, although it will catch fire and burn to the ground, which isnt very realistic for something that is normally made of metal (there are exceptions, but the entire tank doesnt catch fire, it spreads a lot slower because its not very flammable in the first place)

the scalable cubes dont have any advantage over the normal ones aside from cost, but putting multiple blocks in the same space is very much cheating, and is why any of the umbreon tech lags so much when spawned in or damaged

As long as they're not giant tungsten scalable cubes, I think you're fine. I would just recommend using lighter armor in case an enemy does manage to capture it.

well i didnt know tungsten tanks are very hated.

now i wonder if someone else who captured my WOLF I saved it and uses it.

well ill make steel tanks now :D

It's not about not having the vehicle to counter a tungsten blob. It's about having those tanks spawn camp the enemy team, and there only being a few conquest servers running at a time. I built the PTR to alleviate the issue of hosts not regulating what's spawned.

I didn't build this for the hosts. I made this for the people against them.

the game isnt fun anymore because you dont have the skill to build something to counter it?
umbreon stuff aside, tungsten isnt that tough, it just can take a bit more punishment than other stuff

theres another solution, its called limit the vehicles people can use or kick the offending players

this isnt CoD, its called brick rigs for a reason, not brick infantry

i just tested this device against my abrams i made and this anti tank car only blew off the tracks, the tank was still able to fight.

*LAUGHS IN Tunstion cars)

ok

if you forget ti press x to open the doors, you just get a cool looking booster

dodo

wasted

Small cars are easily countered with RPGs, though. This machine is designed to remove the huge tungsten bricks that can't easily be countered. For small cars, RPGs will work fine. A guided rocket would also take up far more space than this shell, so the vehicle would be bigger and more costly.

but WarChallenger can you make it kinda like a guided missle that will make this work much better bc now its small cars with bug death guns that are speedy

no like a few meters off the ground :D it works so far

I'm really glad you guys like this machine! While a jumping tank may avoid the rocket, it could still explode under the tank and deal some damage to the chassis. Sounds like a unique idea, though!

i just make my tanks jump now :D

but the problem with it is the fact that people mostly spawn tungsten boxes at garages so you cant

wow so you did do something to remove umbreon from fighting good jub on that

i make small tungsten vehicles too for my own use and i loved this

i also liked the way you bulletproof the tires!

Also mine is 500 but it only gets 1 missile so this makes up for it

Wow, legit looks like my last ditch AT vehicle but if it looked cool in the slightest

to people who use tungsten in conquest
this video is for you https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtx0fdzRAp8

Goodbye Devil Ranger

Kinda ironic, you present the cure to problem you have been creating.

I see what you did there. I'm glad to finally be rid of tungsten spam tanks myself, if I'm honest.

war
thank you so much for giving me the power to stop trollers DEAD in there traks [see what i did there?] ISTAND UPVOTES DAMMIT

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