It looks sexier without the sail but loses a bit of personality. Maybe if the sail was just smaller so it didn't look impractical.

it looks incomplete without the sail!

Mod works on Verson 7.1?

At least ,someone to fix this awful egosoft sailing boat design ...

@Lupercal I love that design!

Save game compatible I assume?

I was kind of on the fence about the sail as well but it never sat quite right with me. Thank you for this awesome mod. Your Cyclops mod is also on point. Awesome looking ship

@Rogue Rabbit Did you activate the mod in 'extensions'?

I'm late to the party but, good job and thanks man, that ship look so much better without the sail in my opinion

@Lupercal I like that

@Rothank What do you think about this?
https://imgur.com/a/hzsvPXQ

Honshu is quite a nice ship, but the sail spoils it, it's really out of the bowl. For a support ship, to supply battleships, I would expect the simplest possible shapes so as not to attract attention and the smallest possible target.
Sails and other strange parades are good for cruise ships to attract as much attention and support the desire to spend ...
Thank you for your mod.

I would kill for someone to make Honshu symmetrical. I don't enjoy how offset crew section is, does not match with my own imaginative Terran aesthetic ^^

How did I miss this!!! lol

it would be nice as a stand alone.

@Cyfagy Sorry im not sure but I would assume it is yes, best bet is to just give it a try.

hello, is this mod compatible with VRO ?

PS give it a nice Pirate name thank you again

I hope you up it speed and turning rate if not no point getting it. I'm a Pirate I use the monitor for that but I'm a Terran now so I like to use a Terran ship up it speed and turning rate thank you.

So eeh..literally a case of "sail away"?

I miss the X:3 Terran ships. Yeah it was a crap shoot going through gates in a super capital but damn did they look mean.

@Lupercal No bother and nice job! The parts that are inverted like you say, sometimes the normals get turned around, you need to go to edit mode, select all the flipped polygons and then mesh > normals > flip. And looks like your gonna have to edit the xml after all to move those turret that were placed on the disk. Good luck with the ship!

@Axeface Last message from me (at least in this thread), and apologies for being such a massive bother. Thank you so much for all your replies as well as your mod for the Honshu itself, I had to look how everything is organised in the .cat you made for it to figure out what to do and thanks to you I actually managed to do what I wanted to in the first place (at least partially).
https://i.imgur.com/1DuSOct.png
I need to do it again though, some elements that I duplicated (but not all, must be my error in blender at some point) have their surface textures transparent when looking from the outside so to speak. I should have wrote down all the steps I took to redo the thing easily, but if it worked once it should work again.
Thanks a lot man and have a great day!

@nordicwolf44 Like I said its not this mod, this mod does nothing to how the ship is spawned, its stats, nothing.

@nordicwolf44 It is not possible for this mod to cause that (i'll eat my hat if it is).

@Lupercal You should go into the texture folders and extract the dds files from the .gz archives (will have to give them .dds extension). If you do this you will be able to see the maps in blender. The material setup in blender is not important afaik. You simply need an image map assigned like I do in that vid (you are missing one in that material which is probably why you were having issues). Which map is in the name of the components (and that name is how the game knows which material to use), for example genericXgeneric_p1_hulltexture_01 will use the assets/textures/generic/generic_p1_hulltexture_01_diff.dds (and the generic_p1_hulltexture material). Also, making a fresh XML is really problematic, best to use the exported xml to copy over your changes to the vanilla one than make a fresh one. If your edit isnt changing the position of any turrets/shields etc all you need is the model files. Anyways here probably isnt a good place to discuss :D Try the discord or forums?

@Axeface
I see why you might dislike 2.7, I can't even figure out yet how to delete the things I don't want in edit mode but in 2.8 I figured it out in a couple of minutes. This is what my shaders tab looks like:
https://i.imgur.com/aK5AG97.jpg
I'm not sure what those 3 red ones are for, ambient, specular and reflective. Also I don't know which texture should I get for the Tokyo (probably its in extensions\ego_dlc_terran\assets\textures\terran) and I have a feeling like it uses different ones for different parts..
Without addressing the above I managed somehow to be able to export it to .dae without errors and even convert it to .xml but obviously I fucked up somewhere. The newly created .xml is tiny (5kb compared to vanilla 28kb) so that didn't work. I'll keep trying though.

but i love this mod.... not trying to hate,
just saying
this "sail " goes back to prior X games... people think its pointless, its more like a throwback and nod to the past

i like the sail,...i imagine its like a front line hospital ship, ....

im a pilot with recently damaged ship from battle,

im looking for the fleet resupply ship so i can quickly get repaired

i see it easily by the sail

this is what i imagine
kinda like seeing a red cross van after getting hit in the leg by stray bullet

All ships X4 are ugly. In the X3, the design was much better.

Egosoft's design is the worst.

@Luperal Nice, glad to see another modder on x4. I only use 2.8 now and I think ive found ways to get around the texcord issue, I cant use 2.7 I hate it. If you get the texcord error go into the shading tab on blender, looking through your materials you should find one that doesnt have a texture assigned. At the start of this video I add one to a material that doesnt have one assigned https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_KucItRMMc . You also need to make sure your model doesnt have any mesh errors, select all parts, edit mode, select all, mesh > clean up > delete loose.

@Axeface thanks a lot for showing me the thread, I'm in progress of messing with the Tokyo.
The final version is probably going to look like ass but at least my autism in regards to center of mass and thrust will be satisfied.
https://i.imgur.com/enV1ALU.jpg
I also just realised I should be using 2.7 to avoid errors during exporting of the modified .dae back to xml.

Thank you, that sail bugged me and just didnt fit with the flow of the Ter Ships. Hopefully the developers take the hint and axe it on their own soon.

@Veronica Anatolia Yeh notepad++ is good for it, this thread has all the info you need to get the files extracted https://forum.egosoft.com/viewtopic.php?f=181&t=402452

i have notepad++ for editing xml's (do it all the time for other games like starpoint gemini 2 and SPG warlords) but looking at x4's file type it looks like their compressed and packed.

I take it i'll have to bite the bullet and track down a program to unpack them correct?

@Veronica Anatolia Thats not something im interested in doing but it should be as simple as adding a "con_shipstorage_m_01" connection to the asgard macro file (extensions\ego_dlc_terran\assets\units\size_xl\macros\ship_atf_xl_battleship_01_a_macro.xml). If you compare the macro for a ship that has m storage like the odysseus you will see the difference.

I have a small request, do you think you could possibly give the Asgard battleship 10 M craft capacity? Or maybe elaborate how to find and edit its xml to do so?

I noticed it carriers 40 fighters and has 3 pads, but has 1 medium pad but no storage for medium craft, its internal cargo is only 9,000m3 even though it is a XL craft making me think its done lore wise like the split raptor where she only has 19,000m3 because her cargo bay was sacrificed for instead more hanger space.

I think either just the 10 medium craft hanger capacity would make sense and would bring her upto total dock storage to 50 (like the majority of other large and XL ships in the game) although having a M dock Capacity of just 5 wouldn't be bad either.

@Lupercal I unpack and convert everything from base game and the dlcs. Brummbears tutorial has instructions on how to convert all the models at once https://forum.egosoft.com/viewtopic.php?t=414274

@Axeface thanks for the reply.
In order to edit the model, did you first unpack only the .cat files of the DLC, or just the .cat files of the base game or both?

The sail didn't match the rest of the design for me as well :/ Thanks for making it better :)

excellent! the Honshu has such a sexy hull that was completely ruined by that sail.

does the sail actually do what is decribed in the info about it? does it really provide energy cells or is this just random backstory insert here? did anyone check? i mean now with the different solar levels it would be great sending her out there to collect like a miner..

I thought those panels are meant to make the Honshu WAY easier to hit from a distance.

It doesn't matter what it is (solar panels? In a giant ship powered by an antimatter rector?) The board - the sail, right next to the landing docks is a rather unfortunate idea.

@GoingBatty Them calling it a solar sail is a bit of a misnomer, it's solar panels that just happen to be in a sail shape, its not supposed to be a solar sail as most understand it.

Can someone change the sail into a metallic copper or gold? Just like we think will be used in solar sails someday?

@Lupercal No probs, I use blender.

Thanks a lot for taking the time to make this and the upload.
Would you mind saying what tools you used?

Thank you!