I know it will work without those roads, but I always add those anyhow (even if I have dumped a model and textures with ModTools) so that the original maker will have a direct link back to their original product from my page, further indicating that it is not my original work.

I appreciate your candid expression - it's your right when seeing your work used without permission to respond as you like. I also appreciate that you understand my intention to credit the original creator (you) and allow this to remain on the WS.

Much appreciated!

Hey. Idk how I can express this in english correctly ... no hard feelings or so. In other words i am not mad ... I might've overreacted a bit, but in the moment I saw the picture something triggerd me and my direct reaction ... it wasn t the first time that something "like that" has happened and I knew from others, that you'd have to react instantly, otherwise you'll lose control over these things. Therefore I am sorry. Btw ... no need to put those two roads in as a dependency ... this one will work without them.

Also - I honestly thought I was using Offe's roads for the replacement texture - I did not realize it was your model even after you commented I still thought the one I had selected was "ruined/rural road" and Asset Manager takes like 10 minutes to load between sessions so I was not able to check and verify until today. I don't know which one I used, though (03 or 04) so I left both as required items.

I absolutely do - but I also hope that you see I did not mean to steal credit for the model - and I would love to get permission from everyone whose models I use, but when it takes a whole day to create a new Style / Collection (and custom map, if necessary) and many people may have uploaded something years ago and not be active any more then I would never get anywhere if I waited for responses from everyone. As I said, I always intend to say its not my model and link to and credit the creator or person who originally uploaded it.

I understand that its your model and your decision to allow me or anyone else to use it or ask that it's taken down from the WS. I will respect and honor your decision, whatever it may be. If you're positive it's your model and will allow me to keep this up on the WS I will change the description to remove the "ruined/rural road" by Offe so that it only shows your work as the model used.

You can keep it, that's ok. All I want right know is, that you understand my point/arguments.

Fine, after I am done with work today I will delete this and do a different version of a ruined highway.

.....
Regarding Offe´s road.

I did not take anything from him, nor could he have taken anything
from me. His road predates my suburban roads by 2 years.
My models, my textures. All done by me. And it doesnt matter if
there are lights on the streets or not. That does not change the
fact, that the models/textures are mine, really !

In the end, everything legal excluded, it is especially a question of
respect. And thats what really pis*ed me.
Dont you ask your friends, family or whoever, when you
want/need something from them ?
Do you just take it ?`

As I´ve wrote in my second comment... I am the last person you would
decline everything ... but really want to be asked about it, before (!)
and not after.
Is that so hard to understand ??

You really dont get it...
Even if you dont claim this as your own, I want
to decide if I want MY work to be used in that way or not.
I´ve put time and effort in it ... I did create this, therefore
I own the rights on it.

Btw, this is law in your country, as well as part of the
steam license agreement, which you had to sign before uploading
anything to the WS.

Let me go further ...
Why should I create something, why should I add anything to the
community when others just take it and change it, put it together
in a different way and then release it.
Why should I go through the whole process in creating content, when
taking from others "for the benefit of the community" is so much easier
and faster ?!

Here is something you might want to read ...

https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=887845342

.....

also - bist du nicht so verärgert - wir zusammen arbeit alle zum CitiesSkylines bessert bekommt!

Maybe Offe used your suburban road to make the "rural/ruined" road? In any case, this ruined highway does not use streetlights, which your suburban road model uses.

Look -- at the end of the day I am not trying to pass this asset off as my own - I am just trying to have a ruined highway suitable for a post-apocalypse map. I will include your suburban roads as required, and credit you with the original model / texture because I don't know if it is yours and Offe used it or not.

I can somehow live with an apology...thats ok, but I am neither stupid nor blind.... plus I checked it before I wrote anything here.
Wihout the preview pic, I wouldnt have looked in to that in the first place ... I knwo my textures.

https://imgur.com/QNNOHnU here´s a link, if you want to check that again.

Lastly, Steam adds the default text "by m4gic" to every asset I upload, so I did not add that to give myself credit, I just had not changed it yet to give credit to Offe until this morning - less than 12 hours after I first finished uploading everything for the new Style and Collection.

There are definitely people who "steal" models and try to pass them off as their own - maybe they even try to get donations from others....but that's not me.

Yes, Clus, I just verified that this does not use your models - your suburban roads have streetlights and I purposely did not want street lights on this "ruined highway".

This uses "ruined/rural road" by Offe.

I am sorry I just did this yesterday - was a very long day and I did, in fact, use one of the ruined/rural roads as the overlay to a vanilla highway. I also included your suburban road in the collection, but I believe this ruined highway uses the "rural/ruined road" that was on the Workshop.

I do credit those whose models I may use and change or add to, as I said I just had not had a chance because I spent all day yesterday creating the new Style and Collection for Post Apocalypse.

FYI - I neither ask for nor accept any money - I am not out to steal anyone's glory or thunder or take credit - I am just adding variety to Cities Workshop content.

Well no, I meant what I wrote. Creating these kind of content takes a lot of time (!!) and everybody can use it for free ! The least I expect from anybody who doesnt want to go through that whole and long process (either learning how to use the tools or just take a shortcut by reusing something that is already there) is to ask before (!) deciding to just use anything. And even if it isnt ask before, then there has to be at least a mentioning of the original creator of the used/changed stuff, in the frist place. I am the last person who would decline everything, but honestly... you have to ask !

u meen take it down or give u credit for the origanl mod @clus

Hey. Honestly ... this isnt completely your work. "Your" base model is the base model of one of my suburb roads with a downscaled texture. Take it down or change it !