Hey you, since you're on this subject why don't you make a truly messed up mod, i found a forum to another place that I "love" using, seems like you know how to make mods so I think it would be good if you brought attention back to this game because I'm fed up of finding 9 bazillion test mods. please and thank you

Ban men from working, I want to stay at home and not drive or work. Like are All men redacted you could have the easy life but no they chose to ban the women from working, driving other things, like duh.

women are 47% of the workforce in the united states, consumer spending isn't the only thing that would go down the entire economy of most countries would collapse

increase birth rates

Wouldn't unemployment go down massively? You have roughly the same amount of jobs (maybe a slight decrease) needing to be done but half the population to do them. Thats the reason wages would go up because there wouldnt be enough people to do all the jobs.

siren system, based

siren system, based

all the people saying based are definitely the ones who build Nazi Germany and wonder why it isn't working.

Based

Utterly cringe. True that conservatives would like this though

Based

i don't think conservatives would like this

I suggest we test this mod's authenticity in a live-fire environment. Perhaps by performing a multinational cooperative peer-reviewed study after repealing this law from an existing country. Say, somewhere in the middle-east... and seeing to what extent the observed effects align with the projected metrics. Wouldn't that be wacky?

Interesting mod, I especially like the effects being plausible, and that you've attempted to justify them through an uninterrupted chain of reasoning.
Not sure all of the projected effects eg crime rates , are accurate... mostly because they're based on oversimplified/incomplete assumptions. (presumably for the sake of having a mod that actually 1. Functions within the confines of the game's systems 2. Has a noticeable gameplay effect 3. Is comprehensible by dumbasses like me).

The "inaccuracies" are mostly just correlation-vs-causation:
(stay-at-home parent -> home stability? -> emotional/mental/moral stability -> less crime)
Which implies a much stronger relation between these factors than really exists.
In addition, these same assumptions can be used to argue the opposite:
(anger and resentment at being treated as 2nd class citizens -> "lashing out" -> more abuse&crime -> less home stability -> emotional/mental/moral stability -> more crime)

There's already a "Ban Women From Driving" Policy. This is only the natural continuation. What next? Denial of female suffrage?

Based

This mod no longer works for me since 1.28 update.

Based

I have no idea if this mod is satire or actually reflective of the authors beliefs, but it dose show the effects of what would happen if removed, but it appears to actually have a bit of thought, and again, i carnt tell if this is reflective of the author's beliefs to remove woman for working

Guys, you really are taking this stuff too seriously.

You should probably stop playing games, get into politics for real and implement your brilliant ideas while letting modders do whatever the hell they want with the game liberally.

This mod doesnt make sense that not how the world works,less wemon with money more monies for the rest of us

@Pizza Hut ah, I must've misread the bug fix as just an update to make it increase, while also having other effects to make it decrease.

Grabs the popcorn, these comments are hilarious!

@هيو مونجوس Pain, litearlly the thought process of the average Conservative

feminism is when women are mean to me, I heard that on fox news and no I am not a woman nor have I ever talked to a woman so I know how it feels like to be a woman and that is how I know that we don't need feminism.

@Atuchomicz As I thought,you're incapable of defending your ideology. Yes, I'm a classic conservative, i like non-discrimination and the presumption of innocence Just admit that you want gender discrimination and the end of due process, it will make things easier.

@loterton Yeah your just completley insane, classic Conservative. blocked

Bruh what is this comment section lmao

Firstly, I don't need to justify my point of view, and based on your comments, your mind is closed to any good faith discussion. Secondly, this is about the mod, not a political forum, so out of respect for the mod author, let's keep the discussion about the merits, or lack of merits, of the mod.

@Doki7071 Not trying to be mean or anything, but you really should read the whole description. If you did, you would see that banning women from the work force DECREASES GDP be 15%.

@pointman Now thats a packed comment. You litearlly just described Conservatism... Name One thing in wich Feminism hurts the Youth or Women, you know the group wich started this fight? Are you against Freedom and Equality for the Individual or the clearly supressed, the ones that Feminism tries to push? Because in the end Feminism is simply Women trying to fight a System and Bigotswich supress them, how can that be bad?

why does this strengthen the GDP when banning women from working?

I am smart and rational, which is why I think that Feminism is a cancer. It's an ideology based in hatred and revenge for perceived - mostly imaginary - slights and is toxic to women and children as much as it is to men. But if you feel differently, it's fine by me. It's your funeral after all.

@pointman Dam you sounded so smart and rational until you said Feminism is cancer, Oh well...

@pointman
4. Women being dependent on their families/men is kind of the point of this mod though. Also, you don't set the slider all the way. I set the slider to restrictions.

5. Biologically speaking, men and women want to seek each other out, fall in love, and have children. Of course their are other factors like the state of the economy that will discourage women from having children. And of course their are men and women who do not want children simply because. However, my statement was that on average, both men and women want to have children.

@pointman
1. Why are you saying my responses to your questions are "excuses" and "unfounded dismissal". The "excuses" I can somewhat understand, and I would be more then happy to explain my thought process. But I have never dismissed your points, and if I missed one of your points,
you just tell instead of acting like a prick.

2. I never denied that women will go into poverty if they are eliminated from the workforce. After looking at my mod, I found that I accidentally made the poverty rate decreased by banning women. I fixed this.

3. Yes, I know both men and women pay taxes in real life. But men simply contribute more in tax income than women.

I had to make a separate post to deal with "women who are hostile to marriage and family are rare". Seriously? Do I need to post all the surveys and studies that prove the exact opposite. What rock have you been under? This statement is verifiably and provably false. Anyway, I think there are better ways to incentivize trad/con behavior from women than just banning women from work.

Unforrtunately, your response amounts to excuse making and unfounded dismissal of my points. If you forced woman from the workplace who do not have a man to support them, then they become poverty stricken. It's that simple. And NO, men do not pick-up the tab in the current iteration of the game. IRL women pay taxes too so they are also supporting the poor as much as men, so NO men are not picking-up the tab alone. With your policy, men become the sole source of economic resource and productivity meaning that women become utterly dependent to survive. And if you're going too answer me, please don't insult my intelligence by claiming this is not so. If you want to get people to use your mod, it needs to have some credibility. That bullshite excuse of "this is just a game" is pure laziness and excuse making. This could be a good mod, but not as you have it.

@pointman
4. Men already have to pick-up the tab in the current system. However, if this policy were implemented, their burden would be less because their wages would be higher. Also, welfare isn't a requirement since this is a game after all. For example, if a player were a hardcore libertarian, the player could just eliminate welfare, which solves the problem of men paying for the welfare of women in taxes. Finally, I don't know where you get this idea that men would be forced to marry women.

5. Yes, I know the game already had saner policies, but this is mod that adds to the game.

6. I that's entirely out of the scope of this mod since this mod just focuses on one policy, which is
to ban women from the workforce(you don't to set the slider to the max btw). Also, you can already reduce immigration in the game.

@pointman
1. Yes, I know a 10% GDP is unrealistic, but this is a game not real life. The game needs some balance even if you find the mod unrealistic. But I probably will increase the GDP increase.

2. Women who are too young or too old can just stay at home to be taken cared of and find hobbies of interest to do. Also, I would add in sliders to let people decide the degree of women being banned from working, but custom sliders are broken in the game right now.

3. Marriage rates are a whole other problem,but my thought process was that banning women from working would encourage them to purse their hobbies of interest or find a partner. Also, women who are hostile to the idea of marriage and family are rare. Most women generally want to have a family. Finally, both women who don't have partners and single mothers could be taken care of by their families. Of course, I know that not all families are well enough to care for them, but that's why you have welfare and charities.

@Cup of Joe I previously had conservative approval for this mod, but people complained b/c it was inaccurate of the views of most conservatives in this country(and whether you think most conservatives are fake are another debate). Since I can't add another voter type for more "real" conservatives, I decided to just remove it.

Lastly, women began entering the workforce in the West, not because of Feminism, but because they had to. Monetary and Globalist policies in the West made it so that a man could no longer support a family on his wages alone. High-paying skilled jobs were exported and men's wages faced constant downward pressure from inflation, immigration, and de-industrialization. All of this started in the West BEFORE the cancer of Feminism had become mainstream. So, if you want to create policies that keep women at home and in the kitchen, then create policies that reverse the economic necessity for women to work.

3) This idea ignores marriage rates and the desire to have children. Assume this policy is enacted. Does that mean that women who are already hostile to marriage and family are going to change? And what about the women who are single? They now are completely unable to support themselves and would be completely unable to support a child. What about single mothers? How are they supposed to support their children? 4) Forces men to pick-up the tab. If this policy was enacted, men would be forced one way or another to pay for it. Either they pay confiscatory levels of taxes to pay for all the welfare to women, or they are forced to marry them. Sounds like hell to me. 5) The game already has much saner policies to enact to encourage parenting, like ending abortion, ending family planning, ending welfare, and enacting free parenting classes.

I think this mod is extremely poorly conceived. The reasons are too many to list here, so I'll limit the examples to the most obvious. 1) A 10% reduction in GDP is laughable. Removing half the workforce - and yes, women make up roughly half the workforce in the West - would cause an economic meltdown. Imagine that tomorrow, every retail business, every restaurant, every hospital, every school lost their female employees and had to scramble for men to fill the role. The wave of bankruptcies would make the Covid lockdowns look tame. 2) Not all women in the workforce are capable of having children. Banning women who are too young or too old (anyone over 40) from work, just to keep those who are capable of having children at home?

Only 10% makes sense as full-time mothers still consume more than men, and the increase in wages makes sense as lower supply means a higher demand for workers.
My only gripe is that this policy doesn't increase conservative approval, just because the west is infested with fake conservatives doesn't mean conservative voters don't want conservative social policy. They do, but they're so wrapped up in the tribalism of the left/right dichotomy and conservative media that they can't see past it, to what the parties are actually doing instead of what they say they're doing.

@Teo which effect are u talking about? GDP? Foreign Relations?

Only 10 % if half the labour force is banned?

Oh no no, women bros we got cocky

"Make sure your economy is in decent shape before implementing this policy. This policy will decrease your GDP by 10% and increase inflation(due to increase in wages). "

kinda unrealistic.

at large the only thing we got out of this was lower Pop growth and lower wages with similar production

I know it's not very insignificant, but when you ban women from voting you still can employ female ministers