I mean rubber bullets have killed people in real life before, so it wouldn't make sense if in the game they didn't have a chance to kill people either. Its still a gun, just one that causes suffering instead of straight up killing you.

Haven't tried tear gas, but the non lethal pistol and stun baton have killed some targets I really wanted to take alive. On the other hand the dart gun is pretty OP in the right hands, can kidnap a whole quest camp and I haven't tried it but I bet my sanguophage sniper could take out a Thrumbo with it.

Pretty bad mod pawns will still die and bleed and you can endlessly stun hostiles

@polaris.ursa Oskar works closely with Tynan with his mods. every update he ensures they're all up to speed by the updates official release. It will be 1.6 compatible by the release of odyssey

1.6 plz!!!

should be called less lethal

I have a suggestion could the VE team add a bionic implant that has non lethal applications something like a venom talon that causes paralyses or an something like an elbow blade shocks like a tazor or stuns like stun baton

so i just had a prisoner get beheaded using the stun baton there seem to be some bugs with this mod

Can these weapons be used by non-violent pawns?

@Alastors_Game im also getting the same thing

Stun baton somehow deals gunshot damage and consistently causes enemies to bleed, I'm using the entire expanded family, including the one that adds the special talent skills.

I would like to use this mod, but I can't find a way to implement the need for dart cartidges without using Combat Extended. I like Combat Extended very much, but it's incompatible with a bunch of mods that I love, so I decided to exclude it. On the other hand, playing non-lethal gun with endless ammunition ruins immersion. So please, does anybody know a way to require ammo for this mod without using Combat Extended?

That doesn't sound like a "me" problem ;))

* No longer compatibile with CE.

And does that happen with only this mod?

Gas grenades immediately kill (friendlies) if they are within the blast radius.

Everyone still dies to the stun baton so it's not that non-lethal

The true power of nonlethal weaponry

Very effectiv against Attackers, but also very effectiv against my overwhelming collection of Pyromaniacs, nobody thinks about burning stuff while they lie on the Ground in the middle of a Teargas cloud... also works on barfights and against Alcohol/drug binges

The stun baton is too powerful. Best melee weapon in the game as you can stun lock the enemy on first hit. The modder could make this weapon more balanced.

I would like to see tranq turrets, a microwave heat ray to drive off man hunter packs and sticky foam than slows down targets.

It seems to be when the gas spread while the grenade goes off but people goes into the gas they get the actual effect

I to have the probleme were tear gas grenades instantly kills pawns

oh that is a great v3.0 update!

Does anyone know of a way to have these weapons ignore the death on down chance? I'm trying to figure out something like an invisible hediff that would allow these to be truly non-lethal without messing with the death chance for everything else.

No known conflicts, you'd have to tell us

are there any known mod conflicts? tear gas kills instantly which is the opposite of what i wanted

v3.0:

Added: Mod options with three toggles to make three groups of things immune to non-lethal weapons: Anomaly entities, Insectoid bosses from VE Factions - Insectoids 2 and specific XML defined animals (ie Gallatross and Archotech centipede). All are affected by default, but the player can toggle them at will.
Tweak: Removed dependence on OPToxic code
Tweak: Removed some leftover code comments

Sir, please, we need something for tribes. Some non-lethal snares and traps. My peaceful pawns don't want to kill people, but they also don't want to go full crazy vegan in ideology expansion.

i love using this mod for slave rebellions but can you make a non lethal turret/auto turret? it may be useful to set up in my prison for breakouts.

This mod is content complete, and has been for years

Good potential but still need some work :( please dont abandon us !

Also idea for new weapons Or utilities :

Man catchers (without the spikes obviously) , Throwing nets , Bolas ,
Goo launcher/thrower, description : emprison people in sticky matter wich can be dissolved easily with water or who dissolved after sometimes.

Traps that emprison / neutralize without harming.
Why not turrets too.

I agree with what others said things should stack up like toxine and things should give pain to then make the entities go down but also go down in a more natural and balanced way.

I'm not sure if this mod is at fault, but every time I have colonists get exposed to tear gas, their clavicles get marked as "removed" alongside their arms when using RBSE bionics.

Can you equip non lethal weapon to a non violent colonist since this weapon don't do harm?

The stun gun is effective, but the electric baton is not. What is the problem?

non lethal turrets for prison mods please

will say i feel like the dart gun genuinely needs a nerf or atleast a limit literally had to cherry pick it cause it was so op, because you can essentially one shot anything regardless of health as long as its affected by a sedative, i've yet to test this but i assume it would affect organic bosses such as those from insectoids 2 and the anomaly dlc. i do know revenants can fucking be one shot by a dart gun due to just dying when being downed regardless. like atleast make it dependent on like body size or some mechanic similar to "toxic buildup"

There should be a mechanic allowing to capture stunned pawns. Currently you still have to attack the targeted pawn (and potentially kill it) using other means since stunned and incapacitated are two distinct things game-wise. Alternatively, the weapon should inflict a symbolic point of damage associated with 125% pain so it reliably triggers the threshold for the target to go down.

There's no need to fear it may be OP if it actually worked as expected - due to its long reloading time it's completely useless against crowds and only viable against single targets that should be captured alive.

anyone who has chemical training (LEO or miltary) will tell you. Yes a gasmask stops teargas. CS gas is used on trainees to demonstrate the importance of creating a tight seal on your mask as well as simulating what a chemical attack might feel like. it absolutly sucks taking the mask of in the gas chamber

Please make gas masks work against tear gas. I see some people in the comments that have no idea what they're talking about saying that gas masks don't protect against tear gas this is untrue. Why do Riot police always use gas masks when deploying tear gas? If it were mustard gas for example then it would be obsolete but yea. Please do it.

dart gun is op as you can stun anyone you want and kill them without any resistance for example thrumbo but who cares about pony pfp opinion

Yeah. Good point. Kinda weird I didn't think of that actually. Back in my old security class we learned plenty of combat methods for that kind of stuff

@Kai IRL it would depend on the reason for someone "incapable of violence". Someone could be against taking life but not against using self defense, there are several martial arts set up around the principle of dissuading an aggressor without harming them.

A tear gas Mine would be nice. Just pop it in the hall of a prison to mess up any prison break plans lol

Any chance you might add a gas mortar shell? I love the idea of using the artillery from VE defenses to drop gas on an outpost for some capturing.

Also,to the Doctor worm fella, think of it like this. Someone who's incapable of violence irl would be just as unwilling to beat someone with a stick just as they'd be opposed to hitting someone with a zappy stick.

I have a bunch of Kleenex, and empty water bottle and a few assorted office supplies

Stray you have no idea what you're talking about. I'm looking at a package of organic vapour respirator cartridges on my table right now.

To everyone complaining that gas masks don't protect against tear gas - good. That's how it works. A gas mask stops particulates, but not vapors. Tear gas works mainly from vapors irritating the eyes. The most a gas mask would do is trap the vapor between the face and the mask and make it worse.

Going to echo what other people are saying and i think Gas Mask (and Haz Suits) should also protect against Tear Gas, dunno how hard that'd be to code but it would help allot.

These are still weapons...