The Binding of Isaac: Rebirth

The Binding of Isaac: Rebirth

Standardized Item Weights and Better Deals
43 Comments
poobutt 16 Nov, 2024 @ 9:22am 
does it still work?
Stain 22 Jan, 2022 @ 7:43pm 
All good, thanks for being so active.
aaaaark  [author] 22 Jan, 2022 @ 1:28pm 
Uploaded the fix. Sorry for the mistake once again.
aaaaark  [author] 21 Jan, 2022 @ 8:43pm 
@Stain
I messed up in the latest update, my bad. I'll push an update for it tomorrow on Saturday.
Stain 21 Jan, 2022 @ 3:48pm 
Just happened again, anyone else having issues?
Stain 20 Jan, 2022 @ 10:39pm 
Just got forget me now in a devil deal, not sure why.
Clash 3 Jan, 2022 @ 4:08pm 
Thank you for making this mod, I've been using it for a few weeks now and it makes the game way more fun! Not seeing useless items like the babies in Devil Deals the other changes you made are fantastic. :meepstarry:
aaaaark  [author] 15 Nov, 2021 @ 8:35am 
*decided to
Just noticed the typo.
aaaaark  [author] 14 Nov, 2021 @ 8:51pm 
@Coronel Empoleon
I actually deleted to completely drop using items.xml on this version since I wasn't doing that much with it, and it's a file that a lot of mods use, so opening space for other mods to give it more thoughtfully felt like the right thing to do. Didn't really do anything too interesting apart from shuffling stuff around and making the mod more light-weight and what I'd consider more "vanilla-like". Not sure what I was thinking with removing Curse of the Tower from the curse rooms, for example.
Coronel Empoleon 14 Nov, 2021 @ 8:35pm 
@Arc Other than applying some of the changes to the itempool and item.xml, do you remember what else did you change? I use your mod as a basis and tweak some stuff in the itempool and item.xml so any cool stuff that you do with the those are welcomed
aaaaark  [author] 14 Nov, 2021 @ 8:16pm 
And update posted. I overhauled the mod a liiiiiiiiittle bit too.
aaaaark  [author] 12 Nov, 2021 @ 5:51pm 
@Aeternis
I'll take a look into it once I have time (this weekend should be good).
Aeternis 11 Nov, 2021 @ 4:00pm 
any new on updating this for rep? doesn't seem to work on the new items like c-section, and also prevents stye and glass eye from spawning
aaaaark  [author] 31 May, 2021 @ 10:11am 
@Daracadeking
Correct. If you notice the items I changed the charge time for still having the old times, try unsubscribing, opening the game to uninstall, then subscribe again. Steam Workshop should update the mod normally, but sometimes it just doesn't for some reason.
Daracadeking 30 May, 2021 @ 9:07pm 
oki it will update itself right
aaaaark  [author] 30 May, 2021 @ 3:45pm 
Hey guys, I uploaded a new update for the mod. Reduced the cost of more items and lowered the cost of Nail, Necro and Sulfur.
aaaaark  [author] 20 May, 2021 @ 1:45pm 
@Ser Squigglesworth
Nothing has been completely removed from the game for the sake of completion viability with the mod active, it's the reason why I added a lot of the removed items into another pools, because they weren't anywhere but in deals.
SquigglesTheWat 20 May, 2021 @ 9:34am 
Gotcha. Just wanted to make sure they weren't removed from the game. Except Cursed Eye. That can leave if it want to lol.
Daracadeking 20 May, 2021 @ 6:45am 
yes as u can see some items are already in other pools so takking out some means ..increase in variety of run build
SquigglesTheWat 19 May, 2021 @ 7:41pm 
So are all these items still in the game just not in certain pools anymore?
Daracadeking 19 May, 2021 @ 1:45pm 
oh so now rock bottom is on treasure room pool ? yayy
aaaaark  [author] 19 May, 2021 @ 12:29pm 
aaaaark  [author] 19 May, 2021 @ 11:57am 
@Daracadeking
Adding the Vengeful Spirit to the Treasure Room is a good idea. Did that. And no, I'm pretty sure they're not compatible, although you mentioning Rock Bottom reminded me of how it used to be on the Tinted Rock pool on Antibirth, I tried to do the same but didn't find a way so I decided to add it to the golden chest pool instead.

@RoyalMuffin
Glad you like it! And no, I don't have a version that only alters devil deals at the moment, but I certainly could do that for you. I'll let you know when I finish it, shouldn't take long.
RoyalMuffin 19 May, 2021 @ 9:57am 
I love the mod! is there a version that just alters the devil deals? I am fine with the weight system but not fine with how bloated the devil pool is.
Daracadeking 19 May, 2021 @ 9:53am 
any way**
Daracadeking 19 May, 2021 @ 9:53am 
and will u add the vengeful spirit to other item pool.. cus it will jus spawn in cursed room now ? :( i thought its a good item and its beautiful lol ..any thanks plz reply if u can :(
Daracadeking 19 May, 2021 @ 9:50am 
love you love the mod !!! will this be compatible with the mod which adds rock bottom in other item pool's for example item room and gold chest item pool
aaaaark  [author] 18 May, 2021 @ 10:37am 
@Ketrai
I wanted to make devil deals and devil beggars more thematically consistent too (specially beggars). Most of the syringes I took out of the devil beggar pool are good, but I can't fathom as to why they're in there to begin with, I wanted the devil beggar to give you devil items. Not boss room items. It's why I removed stuff like Rotten Baby too, I know he's good, I just don't think it fits Devil Deals in the slightest. "Standardized Item Weights and More Thematically Consistent Devil and Angel Deals" is too long of a name, and I also took in consideration taking stuff out that was thematically consistent, but bad, like Demon Baby and Scapular.

Plan C is already in too many pools to begin with, and with standardized weights you find it a lot more often in curse rooms and shops (I have at least 4-5 Beast kills with it because of that), besides it's a useless item unless it's specifically going for a Beast end. Anything else is just unusable outside of extremely fringe cases.
aaaaark  [author] 18 May, 2021 @ 10:36am 
I've seen the new Holy Water, and it's frankly still not good. It's only going to do anything to enemies that don't move at all, like Gurdy, but those are just rare at this point. I had two runs where my first Angel Room item was Holy Water, and it honestly never did anything useful. The throwing speed is extremely slow and hard to actually hit anything, and when it does it usually just ticked an enemy once and they moved out of the radius. It's better than before, but it's still trash outside of very specific cases. The vast majority of bosses don't just stand still.

Succubus is a good point though, it's nerfed yes, but it still has the damage multiplier so it's still a good item. I'll update to add it back.
Ketrai 18 May, 2021 @ 7:20am 
Oh, and rotten baby as well. This lad does 2x your damage with flies. It's one of the only familiars that scales with your damage, whilst having homing and spectral as well.
Ketrai 18 May, 2021 @ 7:16am 
As per most devil deal mods I just can't phatom why you would remove certain items. 7 seals is insanely good, because locusts synergise with certain passives. (like bomb upgrades for war locusts). Ever seen brim bombs or mega bombs with war locusts? They literally oneshot bosses. Let alone the insane damage against the beast.

Holy water - have you seen the new holy water? Non flying bosses are basically dead meat against it.

Growth hormones - Excuse me what? Speed and damage!

Loki's horns : extra shots, especially with luck.

Plan c : free beast kill when tainted character is already unlocked, or soul of laz.

Succubus : damage booster and damage aura, top tier familiar.

Book of the dead : shot blocker

Forget me now : extra item room, potential deal, and shop.

Delirious : Hillariously game crashing but also op as heck against bosses.

Synthoil : far above average dmg.

Dimensional baby : Not the best, but still a shot multiplier. Insane for synergy potential.
aaaaark  [author] 17 May, 2021 @ 7:22pm 
@Jaitsu
Oh, I made this mod specifically because a mod that only standardized weights already existed, I wanted to do more with it and also make devil deals fun again so I decided to do this one. Here's the one that only changes weight and nothing else. https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2469511923
Jai 17 May, 2021 @ 3:45pm 
Gotcha. Yeah, seems to be working correctly, even with Magic Skin adjusting its own weight when used. Thanks for the mod, this actually makes treasure rooms exciting again! (Though I might suggest splitting this into two mods? I like the equalized weights but I'm not sure about all the item pool changes.)
aaaaark  [author] 17 May, 2021 @ 7:20am 
@Jaitsu
It only makes weights the same so I believe Sacred Orb should still work correctly.
KliPeH 17 May, 2021 @ 5:35am 
@PotatoNinja This only disables achievements if you haven't beaten Mom on your save file yet.
PotatoNinja 17 May, 2021 @ 3:06am 
Does using this mod disable achievements and unlocks?
Jai 16 May, 2021 @ 10:13pm 
How does this work in conjunction with Sacred Orb and other effects that work based on item quality? Does this work by giving all items the same quality, or just making the weights the same despite different qualities?
aaaaark  [author] 16 May, 2021 @ 12:08pm 
@satori
No problem! I'm glad you're happy with it

@flatluigi
I had no idea that was a thing until you brought it up, I tested in game and that sadly does seem to be the case. A footnote on the wiki says that crafting recipes are based on item weight and quality, so I don't think there's a way to make it so this mod doesn't mess with the Bag of Crafting. Either way, I recommend just disabling this mod in-game when you're playing as Tainted Cain, since item rarity doesn't matter for him anyway, I'll make sure to point it out on the mod's description too
flatluigi 16 May, 2021 @ 5:52am 
Does this randomize the Bag of Crafting recipes like some other item pool mods do?
Gabriel 16 May, 2021 @ 12:30am 
Thanks for the mod! This does equalize devil and angel rooms quite a bit
Revalopod 15 May, 2021 @ 11:39pm 
:P
aaaaark  [author] 15 May, 2021 @ 10:50pm 
Christ, I mixed up Lusty Blood with Bloody Lust and ended up removing both, my bad, I only intended to remove Bloody Lust, pushed an update for that now
Revalopod 15 May, 2021 @ 10:30pm 
wait why remove lusty blood that's a super good item