The animation on the horses is substandard. It is fine for a mod but not something that is worth charging money for. If people want horses these are free to download.

crazy this wasnt included in the early-start copy paste job

Probably broken forever but I will post a work around soon.

Mr. Novu, can u try to fix horses refuel mecanics to make it works with new DLC - early start I mean?

Horses eat crops but you have to build feeding yards to get them to eat crops.

https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2915046777

do they take fuel like a regular vehicle or crops or something else?

Horse-drawn road roller from 1800
history tab
old roller road [en.m.wikipedia.org]

is there a way to set them to nato?

its kind of crazy to make this whole thing but not include a large waste wagon

Horses have 4 legs but soviet horses have 8 calves.

im my soviet republic our horses have 8 legs

cheers mate!

https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2469811942

How do you start the game earlier than 1960?

I agree with Hydraliks and would like to see a carriage for large waste as it breaks the immersion having to use the Steam driven version when starting the game in 1900. Still a great mod though.

watch how we build socialism boiz

This mod is brilliant and funny at the same time. I love the way the horse legs are animated. This mod is great for interacting with rural less profitable towns in a cost effective way.

I'm running into 2 problems with it however
1. No carriage for large waste container loading. This mod seems to be a good cover for almost all vehicle types pre-1960 EXCEPT large waste container transport. Seems like a accident/oversight.

2. Faster vehicles will not pass horses for some reason. Given that horses and carriages are the slowest thing on the roads this is kinda a major problem. I don't know if it is something specific to the horses or if the game is confused and does not know how to handle such slow vehicles.

When I tried this with a 1900 start, there was no waste collection wagon that counted as a large waste container, thus demolition of buildings did not work, as they require a large garbage container pickup to remove the waste. Could you add a horse wagon that counts for a large waste container pickup?

I would love to see a horse-drawn tram - those were present f. e. in Warsaw till 1908 (removing process lasted to 1916).

Since you got the skills to do mods like this I thought I'd feed you a few ideas for more early start variety.

- A herd of cattle. Technically it would be a vehicle, but could look like just a bunch of cattle with a person leading them. Slow, but high capacity.

- Hauler. A man with a cart. Slow and low capacity, but cheap and uses no fuel. Variations for aggregate, open and covered hull road vehicle and a forklift version. Don't know exactly how vehicle stations work, but it might be possible to create a CO/DO that has a lot of small vehicle bays so you could save space and still get a lot of haulers working at your industry.

I modified a this into my game using the Horse with a rider mod. https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3008269658&searchtext=horse

An other thing to make a choice of vehicle more interesting I made all the different versions with different amount of horses move at the same rate, but carry different amounts.

Capacity I used:
One horse = 1.2t
Two horses = 2.6t
Four horses = Original amount

I'm no horse expert, but a pretty sure a horse can carry more than a single man + 30kg. Google tells me a horse can carry about 200kg. Let's say half of that is the raider + raiding gear. The 100kg we have left is enough electronic components to build roughly 350m of 0.65mw powerlines.

Not bad for early game I would say.

The carts carry 3tons. A man on a horse would only carry 1% of that or about 30kg.

I like this mod!

Any chance we might see a "Pony express"? Would love to use a single man on fast horse to deliver the minimal amounts of electronic and mechanical components needed early game. Would also be great for supplying small stores.

So in essence a man on a horse who can carry half of what a covered hull cart can and has a top speed of around 35km/h.

The legs... OK, you are creative

Oh, when I posted this it wasn't updated, thank you so much :)

@Novu You are a god. We bow in the dust in gratitude.

Use the heavy steam crawler to pick up the large containers. It's availability starts in 1880.

Exactly. All industry incl. from mods now have shells in large containers.

Is there any way you could take the waste collection wagon and make a version for big containers? At the moment the earliest one is the Skd 706RT from 1958, without it I can't make any industry.

Thanks for that really fast update!

At the next opportunity, could you change the availability date to earlier than 1900? It would be more in line with the four horses teams.

Mod updated.

Until her updates the mod you can just go into the workshop folder, copy one of the "truck" folders, rename it and edit the script.ini file. Change to $RESOURCE_TRANSPORT_TYPE RESOURCE_TRANSPORT_WASTE and change the $NAME_STR "Horse Drawn Waste". I also added $OBJECT_VEHICLE Waste into the workshopconfig.ini but idk if that is needed. Works fine for me

i am convinced he is already working on it, maybe just a matter of days

garbage wagon when? :3

lol wut, it works but why

You have to put 0.2t of fuel in the horse feeder.

Not sure what's wrong but for some reason at game start all my vehicles find a problem with the horse feeders and cant refuel even though there shouldn't be any problems, there's road access, full of crops, wat do

Actually, and this has always been the case, I have been using gasoline to fuel the horses. They don't really use the feeders for some reason. But I will try this next time I do a 1800s playthrough, i'm well into the early 1900s now so i'm getting cars.

i'll check that out though, thank you.

Depends on which horse feeder you are using. Try using this one for realistic mode:

https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2915046777

For some reason, and I have no clue why, the horses can only enter a gas station or a custom house 1 at a time even if there is multiple lanes. It causes huge traffic jams once you get into the mid game and is potentially a cause for a downward spiral where you'd die. It'd made me have to turn off realistic mode, since I've been playing since 1800.

Could you make a free horse feeder for Realistic Mode? My current workaround is to just remove the construction cost from the file.

I wrote to you about this earlier, but still - could you make at least a couple of different skins for your carts. The early start looks too gray and monotonous when they are all the same

Thanks!

Police Horse is a separate mod:
https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2718213814

Police horse is missing!

Could you make version that you can buy with dollars?

Ah i see what you mean now! Okey then it is fine. thank you :)

You don't need plastics because the "Horse Feed converter" will convert crops+fabric+wood into other materials.

Thats the one I have but the blueprint asks for plastic and electronics