@Pengu im over a month late, but i made a quick vscript to precache all the L4D1 commons and i saw no improvements with the initial lag spike. the lag spike is also more pronounced when using this mod, but less so with the retail addon to this

Those who know

"reverted old suit head recreation"?

Is there a chance that there will be a lfd2 version?

Yeah, it's possible.

Get rid of the blood, pale skin, etc and make them look like normal people

Over a decade ago I was dumb and wanting to make an open world game in the source engine and part of it was taking L4D2 infected and cleaning them up to use as regular pedestrians. Nothing ever came of it and I never got around to trying that out, but I'm curious if it wouldve been possible to begin with

What do you mean by that?

I know this is an infuriatingly stupid question, but how hard would it be to "fix" the textures for the infected to make them look like regular people? Or would it be easier just to remake it from scratch?

@Pingu @Lemmestrokeyoshit25 Guys, you should also contact the support system with this, because they answer me according to the same template, "These are problems with your PC", "Unsubscribe from mods to fix the problem". Maybe if there are more requests, they will start to solve something. Because my arguments that everything is fine on L4D2 maps with the same number of mods do not satisfy them.

Same issue. Huge drops at the beginning of L4D1 Maps. Prob a TLS thing.

@Pingu Well, for me, the reason for the drops at the beginning of the map was in the mods for models, skin, textures of the infected. Especially the high-resolution skin mod, since I tested it by unsubscribing from all mods on common infected. Despite the fact that there were still 450+ mods in the subscriptions, but as soon as I renew the subscription to mods with variations and other options for CI, the lags on L4D1 maps appear again.

@RedBigEvilDevil The mods aren't so much at fault, it's just for some reason the TLS team didn't have the foresight to update relists. This probably could be solved with a script that precaches all infected models.

@Pingu Yeah...I have same issue, L4D1 campaigns have huge lag spike at each map starts. Support saying i must unfollow mods :( By trial and error I found out that it was because of the mods on the infected, their appearance and skin, etc. But I didn't know the reason, thanks for pointing it out, I'll send it to them, maybe they'll do something about it.

I looked more into it. It seems like the L4D1 infected models don't even get precached for the L4D1 campaign maps aside from the ones in Last Stand.

From what it looks like, the L4D1 campaigns still precache the L4D2 infected back when they still used them, they didn't bother to update the relists...

It's not the mod, it's something else internally that's causing lag when spawning the L4D1 infected

I don't think this is necessarily a bug with the mod but I notice horrible frame drops whenever the 'corrected' models are loaded in-game. I tried having the mod as a local addon and tried having it be loaded via gameinfo but the models still seem to not get pre-cached properly.

@TheBioplarTurtle
This isn't a population mod, this only affects the models and textures of the CI. You just have unlucky infected spawns

it's okay :C

No, I will not do that

@Vinnie Could you make independent models to add to a txt population like the woman in pajamas among the other casual commons that this mod adds?

oh, alright. are they at all compatible?

No, this mod and the Overhaul have different ideas and goals

thanks for the mod. does this totally deprecate L4D1 Common Infected Overhaul?

Oh i see, you just don't put them in QC files. That means more textures for CI

That is the method being used here, that is the reason this mod is possible

Maybe the reason is you added "$wound" and "$burning" in the "common_infected_shared" vmt.
Also "$burning" is useless on L4D1 CI , this feature is don't work properly on them

@Skirmister
That is not why the gibbing is broken, it's something else. It's more than likely a bug with the method used here

You changed their models which is why the gibbing models became incorrect. You should rework their gibbing models.

@Vanilla
I did say that the mod may or may not work online. As for the female gibbing, I honestly don't know what's causing it, there's nothing wrong with them internally as their gibbing is setup the same way as the TLS models

as I expected, most of skinfamilies and bodygroups doesn't work online, and yeah gore for female infected is somewhat broken

I like this mod, but gibbing issues spoils the impression about it.

Female infected gibbing is still broken.

need more variety

@Vinnie
When I dismembered female infected her arms didn't dismember. Also when I dismembered her with machine gun, her limbs are starting to float. It seems that you haven't fixed everything. (also I don't have any mods which modify infected (only ragdoll physics mod which don't conflict with this mod). Test the mod yourself and see.

Now it seems conflict with some of your "improved" mod.
such as Improved Classic Dead Bodies or Improved Classic Corpses
It's just OK?

@Vinnie but when I restart L4D2 will it still work or do I have to repeat the process again?

@Geo_Mod
If you load this mod before those listed then yeah

That shouldn't be the case, I fixed any issues with gibbing

@Vinnie It is compatible with the mods: Improved enforcement, xpanded rural civilian, expanded workers, improved IA staff and expanded hospital staff, right?

And rural female infected gibbing issues too

Also I noticed gibbing issues with female infected in pijama (flying gibs)

@Great
Nope, I don't plan on doing that

I ever wonder if Vinnie will make another version with the new bodygroups and the previous ones from the old update & have the suits upper and lower matching :) :)

And why did you remove glasses from fallen pilot? (in my opinion they look cool)

Finally fix! But the strange red lines became white and still appearing.

It is not required, i don't think it was ever required

does this require fixed female suit uppers anymore or was it integrated in the latest update?

This now conflicts with the collision ragdoll mod.

:'(

this now conflicts with "True National Guard"