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@Tihar
This mod just changes defines, theoretically it doesn't need any DLC, and no chance for incurring any problem. Did you occur CTD with this mod only? If there is a error log, it may be easier to locate the problem.

@saltfish
Hey thanks for the mod, that's exactly what i needed ! Although my game is really unstable with the mod on, do I need Leviathan for it to work ? Cause i just wanted the natives not to have provinces with more dev than Paris in 1510

@Saltfish
At the beginning when all tribal land is just a purple outline that will anger natives no. But one of the native reforms allows them to fully annex every uncolonized tribal land province. It has ruined colonizing in North America as there are super native nations occupying the entire continent by 1500

@TheSenate66
But tribal land won't block you colonizing it, right?

被土著打傻了，这次好好教训他们！

舒服了

Does this remove tribal land or at least delay it to a later institution? It completely ruins colonizing when by 1500 the New World is fully populated with tribal nations

Honestly, I think it'ed be better if tribal development took longer and longer to grow as it got larger.

@Comrade Flan
The answer is no, natives need reform to other governments as normal countries but much slower, this mod just reduce their development. However, the speed of reforming will decrease since they have less development.

Quick question: does the mod also disable the formation of monarchies/hordes/whatever for AI natives too?
I think that was the second biggest complain I saw regarding natives and I wonder if you have this covered as well

@Nocty1501
Because the AI Natives should not be able to over-power your Colonies in a straight up 1 on 1.
Player natives in multiplayer, or even single player used to be able to win even before they got buffed/reworked.
Now, you have to speedrun-conquer all of North and South America in Singleplayer so the natives don't kill your colonies instantly, or you have to play a native country in Multiplayer if you want to be a strong power in the region.
Vanilla, of course.

The best mod post Leviathan

@Nocty1501
Did you really played once with what you said?
Tribal development will be remove once conquered or reformed.

@Nocty1501

Natives were playable before, but it was a difficult run - which is kind of the point of playing them. A Native run is supposed to be challenging, a test of skill for even the best players, because IRL it *was* very difficult for native Americans to survive the age of colonisation as independent states.

The dev boost they got in the last update didn't make it playable, it made it laughably easy for native tags - not just for them to survive the age of colonisation, but to remain major regional powers and even to kick the Europeans out. While that's an interesting scenario, the point of EU4 and similar games is to simulate historical divergence within a framework of realism, not to ignore history altogether.

Having even one native province with more development than Paris or Beijing is outside the realm of realistic divergence, much less the three dozen or so you can expect to discover as a colonial player.

Because only a few player will play as a native, and if someone play a country which NOT a native, the mechanic make new world full of ghost developments and destroy the whole gameplay.
Maybe you want a native, with about 3k populations, has stronger power than a prince with more than 30k populations? Those tribal paying nothing for ghost developments but much faster growing than those spend resources on improve development. What a shame on a "histroical stimulate" game, in which the more primitive the more powerful, without any skill or experience.
@Nocty1501

A lot of people with very strong opinions about game balance...

Has it not occurred to anyone that the whole point of the tribal development mechanic is to make natives, you know, playable?

Save it before Paradox gets mad and rips it off of here.

@Saltfish
Paradox should be paying you

Historical fix must have

Thank you

喜极而泣

wow a modder that make game more balanced than a game developer

haha PeeRapper

Not the hero we deserved, but the one we needed.

Thank You, "must have" mode... I am so tired of this natives with 20+ development and 40 province cost score....

太好了，土著理想城终于没了

thanks bro