I wonder, how "this" mod would react to the "Young Person's Guide To The Orchestra" ?

I did run into a new problem. With Stormfox 2 enabled a weird problem occurs where even if the hour music option on timely music is not enabled, it randomly switches tracks every starfox hour. Which is a bit annoying, trying to resolve that.

It should be noted* I deleted my bug report from the discussions because it has been resolved. It mostly works flawlessly aside from it being random, I wish I could control the flow of tracks more, like a "avoid repeating the same track" option or the ability to pick songs in a queue manually.

Great idea I had btw since I love this addon and I've gone all in on making my own custom folders, a feature that would be nice is to be able to select specific songs, maybe have some kind menu popup or something that allows me to pick specific tracks based on what I could want or crave at that moment, rather then randomly. Maybe even implementing a queue system so I can pick multiple tracks that will play one after the other as I picked and see fit.

If a path doesn't start with "sound/timely_music" or would be detected by another soundpack addon, it shouldn't be finding things.

I have a theory!! I do have nzombies rezzurection installed into my addons folder... I did see in the console upon boot it's reading it as a file system, the same message applies to the other timely music folders I think.

So maybe the nzombies folder in my addons is being read as a timely music folder by accident thus creating the weird messages upon changing tracks with the other timely music folders?

It looks like it's making files or you're unintentionally copying files outside the folder where the songs are.

console debug to give you an idea.

TimelyMusic: SendEvent track_change 6542.6306369
TimelyMusic: Track Candidats: tactical_music_nombat2 sound/timely_music/tactical_music_nombat2/ambient/AlbumArt_{B5020207-474E-4720-69A9-C42E26A78900}_Small.jpg
TimelyMusic: DecideTrack rolled: sound/timely_music/tactical_music_nombat2/ambient/AlbumArt_{B5020207-474E-4720-69A9-C42E26A78900}_Small.jpg for theme tactical_music_nombat2 of total 1
TimelyMusic: Notification was: AlbumArt_{B5020207-474E-4720-69A9-C42E26A78900}_Small.jpg [tactical_music_nombat2/Clear/0]
TimelyMusic: DecideTrack said: sound/timely_music/tactical_music_nombat2/ambient/AlbumArt_{B5020207-474E-4720-69A9-C42E26A78900}_Small.jpg
TimelyMusic: file was different: sound/timely_music/tactical_music_nombat2/ambient/AlbumArt_{B5020207-474E-4720-69A9-C42E26A78900}_Small.jpg and sound/timely_music/tactical_music_nombat2/ambient/Cavern Metal Gear Solid F1NG3RS Cover.mp3
TimelyMusic: Error loading sound! 41 BASS_ERROR_FILEFORM

@Callsign_Ewok:
some software may auto-index and create files anywhere they find MP3s, windows 11 probably has something that does this; if you get a specific error i can look at it further but i'm not sure what the problem is

I could try deleting my other nombat packs and stuff a bit as well and just isolate my custom folders to test and trouble shoot

Should the songs be named a certain way?

For example the folder and settings I am running is just simple ambient and combat, nombat style custom folder that's it. Maybe I need to enable "allow hidden files" in that particular folder to find said jpg and album cover art and etc it's trying to track change to files I never seen before in the folder I made... so it's odd.

@Callsign_Ewok:
I think the problem may be that there's a file in the folder which it doesn't expect, such as a title.jpg or a thumbs.db, random metafiles can show up if you're using albums

the song names can have any valid path if you're not expecting them to match with the hourly or weather keys.

i didn't program any limits for the quantity of tracks that are supported, although the behavior may change depending on how many packs you have installed (a dynamic pack vs an hourly pack, or just a normal ambient pack might have different priorities, especially if there's a scripted pack)

I absolutely love the mod and I am glad I got my folder working mostly! However one bug does come up and I can get a screenshot of the console lines involving it. I see something along the lines of it trying to play a jpg or album cover even though I tested all the song files and their all functioning mp3 files in the folder as I clicked and listened to all of them.

Strange. Then it says in the console something about songs being the same or different or not valid etc. It's odd and peculiar and would like your advise to see if theirs anything wrong with my folder path i made or maybe the way the songs are named?

Should the songs be lower case and under scores as well? Is there a song limit for ambient and combat tracks at all?

So far I got it working! I will keep the lowercase names with underscores in mind, is that just for the folder names or for the music file names as well? I tested it so far and my folder path in the addons folder is working! :D Both ambient and combat nombat style. Keep in mind I never made workshop addons before or scripted anything so this is just a compilation of my favourite mp3 files at the current moment, as it's further sorted it could be a very first mod of mine in the future with yours in reference and credits given to timely music as the folder pack of mp3's would be for this mod after all so I will make sure to put that in come the day I do that.

Thanks for the help and the reference to that wiki I will see about checking it to see how I can revise this.

Yes, that's what should work, ideally you name it something lowercase with underscores, but when you pack it as a .gma later on for the workshop its name won't matter. Double check with the wiki [wiki.facepunch.com] if you're unsure.

Okay I just made my folders following the structure for nombat in the description and put my files in it, is the "your pack name" a folder as well to create in addons? That's what I did. Gonna test it, wish me luck.

Thanks for the help and info good sir!

ah perfect that's the first bit of info I will need. I was gonna use some of favourite mp3 files, go into said folder location you mentioned, and voila go from there.

Most of the info for how to do that is in the addon description on this page, but if you're having trouble with an aspect let me know. All you need to start is to begin creating folders inside /garrysmod/addons/yourpackname/ following the folder convention.

So far I am really enjoying this, I would love to learn how to create my own folder or nombat pack for it in the future.

I made a nice multi faceted bug report in the discussions section. I haven't done more testing yet but like I said If i find any new issues, criticisms or ways to improve it or more features i will let you know.

If I find out anything new or think of anything I will let you know; I will also list different behaviours I found testing different npc bases.

I haven't used every NPC base, so, let me know.
Right now it isn't networked, so some aggression in bots or NPC wouldn't be made available to the player, if compatibility is dependent on that.

I apologize for the comment spam as steam doesn't allow me to edit and just put it all in one comment. But I also noticed the music turns to combat only around normal npcs, drg base and next bots and the like are unaffected and thus ambient music only around such enemies. Gonna have to test normal nombat later to see if drg and next bots react to that.

Got a action one to change when I deployed snarks at a different enemy, so the action track changes, interesting.

I notice theirs this issue where tracks don't change either, same action one just plays endlessly.

I got it working, love it so far! I will let you know any ideas for additional features. I was brainstorming. The ability to pick and choose tracks would be very nice. Adjusting combat and ambient volume independently, creating playlists and renaming tracks for better organization in game.

Also I am confused about the hourly and weather options, is that in game weather or does it detect local real life weather? The hourly option also plays music every hour by my clock? If i disable both will I have ambient music play more often and frequently when I first load in to a map for example?

I will say it's a bit more confusing then nombat. But i love this tool so far, well done. Any advice, little tutorial hint on how to make a custom music folder for it?

Sweet just uninstalled nombat and then installed this after reading your reply; thank you good sir! This looks nifty excited to test it shortly.

@Callsign_Ewok:
It can use an unlimited number of nombat packs, when trying it out definitely uninstall nombat itself so they don't conflict with anything that provides nombat's features.

This seems like a very interesting tool for my nombat music... can it contain more then 4 nombat packs at a time lik 5+?

Any suggestions before I install? Do i need to uninstall the nombat mod itself but keep the packs?

@Ho Lee Fuk:
At the moment the addon was designed for people that frequent servers with sv_allowcslua 1 so it wouldn't require any server-sided data or info, I was planning on fixing some feature parity with Nombat which only requires one piece of info to be handled server-side.

I can look into trying to find a way to allow servers to be authoritative about things in situations where the server is sv_allowcslua 0 as I design those sorts of features. Having the packs you want in your server's workshop collection can enforce that they're available for clients, I just have not yet implemented a way to prohibit others from being used.

Is there any way to force people who join my server to only use certain music packs?

https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2609992689

https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2853628070

Most if not all Halo themed NOMBAT packs, metroid prime / 2 / hunters, far cry , far cry 3, my own SPV3 and Marathon CD packs that i made. The list goes on

@BlueSpartan076:
The console commands "timelymusic_reload" and "timelymusic_init" can both rescan packs. This is mostly useful for reloading packs from scripts or loose files.

Can you link which packs you've got that are getting cut off, and a screenshot of what packs you've got enabled? I can look into those further.

My first hunch is that ambient NOMBAT songs may be getting interrupted by other qualifying music with an hourly or weather schedule. Combat focused songs should always get priority to play out according to user settings IIRC so if something is cutting those out I'll really have to dig in. Thanks for the feedback!

A: i cant reload my packs and B: my songs (that are NOMBAT packs) keep getting cut off and switching to another song in the middle

i got my own acnl pack btw but it's ok, i'll pass on this problem, and for the addons , here :

https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?l=french&id=246756300
https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/workshop/filedetails/?id=546392647

Also when someone speaks.. well.. you get the point :)

@MADJACK911:

If there is a rain/snow version of the hourly song it should work, I tested with an unlisted pack of animal crossing music to make sure the feature worked as intended. If you're having trouble show me the pack and maybe I can help with it. It is possible it needs a lua file.

Detecting music from a radio or stream player might require a whitelist but I'll think about it, if you could link me to the kinds of addons that produce those sounds I will consider adding falloff when I get a chance.

Oh, also with my pack having "hourly" musics, when it's raining or snowing , there isn't the rain and snow music.. I think the "hourly" musics bypass them.

Is it possible to make that the music's volume drop or mute itself when another music is playing around? (like media players or streamradios)

If not, then, it would be a great feature!

Can't reload my packs

thanks for including Portal 2 music since i like the music and the game

@G-G-G-GAMERSHOT:
The server you're joining has to have sv_allowcslua 1 in order to have client-side addons load. If you join a server with that set and it doesn't work let me know and I can look into it more.

hey are you sure this is clientside btw? tried it on a barebones sandbox server and it didnt work

@G-G-G-GAMERSHOT
Right now you would need to disable dynamo/nombat in your client with their respective console commands. At some point I can add an option to do that within TimelyMusic automatically if that becomes a problem.

The upside is that this mod is 100% clientside at the moment so you can still run it on servers that will let you regardless of which mods they have.

say a server already uses some sort of dynamo or nombat for background music, would it overwrite the server stuff with this audio or would i have to lower the dynamo/nombat volume in console?

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