RimWorld

RimWorld

Boundary Training
67 Comments
TracerFoxTEK 3 May, 2024 @ 12:35pm 
Has anyone been able to test if this is still working in 1.5?
Pet Mudstone 11 Mar, 2024 @ 12:07am 
This mod is very helpful but results in a very particular problem. If animals are left in an area where they can't return to the zone due that they are restricted to due to doors (which they still cannot open), they're stuck and you can't move them as there is no way to make colonists lasso animals that have boundary training. The way you have to let these animals back into their intended area is by forcing doors to be open so that they path back in.

This is mainly a problem if you have a perimeter wall around your base and are using Giddy-Up to have colonists mount pennable animals. On occasion pennable mounts will be left behind outside the perimeter and if they're hungry, cannot be mounted again.
Hadley 26 Oct, 2023 @ 5:45am 
With this Mod my Animals dont drink anymore. Its really weird.
Doomchibi 6 Aug, 2023 @ 9:47pm 
@Miguel Cairo A bit late but for anyone else wondering, it seems removing mid-save will just delete the the skill from your roaming animals entirely, so if you were to add it back i'm pretty sure they would just be set to 0/3 again. I yoinked it out of my save with no errors or issues to note, so in my experience it seems fine to do it at least.
Troublesomeknight 2 Aug, 2023 @ 9:59pm 
@flee the entire point of the mod is to make it so animals that normally need to be penned don't have to be penned. What are you talking about? You can't even boundary train non-pennable animals.
MiguelCairo 2 Aug, 2023 @ 9:55pm 
can this mod be safely removed? its breaking my pens
blitz 15 Jul, 2023 @ 11:56pm 
All you guys having issues with your animals not being able to be re-penned. Stop boundary training penned animals. This mod is for animals set to areas. Why would you need to boundary train your penned animals?
Troublesomeknight 13 Jul, 2023 @ 10:21pm 
For people experiencing the bug with animals getting tied down, Caravan Formation Improvements comes with a patch to fix it if you have that mod installed.
Doomchibi 13 Jul, 2023 @ 9:59pm 
I'm having a similar issue with pens, even if I assign my animals to a specific area they most often will not try to go there. I have giddy-up so I usually just ride the animal to where I need them if I can but otherwise I've mostly given up on boundary training my larger animals... I've noticed that when the training drops to 2/3 they immediately start refusing to move to an assigned area on their own but also can't be roped to a pen, only to a caravan spawn. It has been frustrating to constantly check to make sure my animals stay at 3/3, so I'm going to have to stop using the mod in the meantime but I really like the idea!
star 10 Jul, 2023 @ 12:29am 
Training success uses random. Is it synced in coop multiplayer?
Avers 13 Jun, 2023 @ 1:45am 
Hi. Would it be possible to have an option to toggle auto boundary training for new animals?
jefferyharrell 12 Jun, 2023 @ 7:13am 
I'm a little confused about how to use this mod. Say I have a horse. (I'm running Giddy Up 2, for the record.) Without any training, the horse gets penned as normal by animal handlers. WITH boundary training 3/3, the horse gets roped to the caravan hitching spot and can't go back to its assigned area. This happens whether or not I have a pen for it. This is probably user error. Can you help?
Teacyn 31 May, 2023 @ 12:57pm 
Mod seems to break pens. Have some donkeys with training and I am completely unable to put them in a pen, I've triple checked that the pen is not destroyed or damaged (pen marker shows everything is fine as well), but no matter what they will not go into the pen. If I place a Caravan Hitching Spot they immediately get roped to it and starve, as they never get unroped.

https://gist.github.com/HugsLibRecordKeeper/cd763f91cc74c73b7fe4e185f9824641
QuirkyHndl 22 Apr, 2023 @ 4:50pm 
aikixd, check your pen area. This is common in vanilla when the pen has been destroyed by losing a segment somewhere.
aikixd 10 Apr, 2023 @ 2:43pm 
My horses are always roped to caravan spot, even though I'm not forming any. As soon as I remove the spot, horses are using their designated areas, once I place the spot back, someone comes and ropes them to it.
Kazzerk 8 Apr, 2023 @ 1:45pm 
My shadow Charger with boundary is always roped or in the same zone, doesn't move from that point and pawns don't interact with him for giddy Up :/ I have the option to follow master enabled and doesn't move. Any suggestion?
Owlchemist  [author] 10 Mar, 2023 @ 3:19pm 
v1.2.2
- Fixes area restrictions sometimes being reset on save reload.
sidfu1 10 Mar, 2023 @ 2:41pm 
so does the respect "some" zones mean that when you exit and load game they have forgotten the zone you set them in?
Kirbicus 25 Feb, 2023 @ 12:43am 
I love this mod! Do you think at some point in the future we could have an option for offspring of trained parents to come out already trained? I always have squillions of horses so that would help a lot lol
skycrossercat 21 Feb, 2023 @ 7:26am 
damn why rw dev keep messing up with pen system, this mod used to work perfectly fine, now animals done training can't get roped to pen
lilwhitemouse 7 Feb, 2023 @ 4:44pm 
Note: have to tick "hold open", not just have a pawn standing there
lilwhitemouse 7 Feb, 2023 @ 3:47pm 
Workaround for that is to set the allowed area to the pen and have someone stand in the gate (or tick "hold open" and make it open) until all the animals run into the pen.

Thanks, Owl!
Owlchemist  [author] 7 Feb, 2023 @ 3:23pm 
v1.2.1
- Fixes trained animals in a pen getting stuck forming a caravan.

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Well that fixes the caravan problem. Now, as for trained animals not being able to get back into the pen is a far more complicated issue. I went around and around on trying to figure out how to deal with that, but I haven't found anything yet. Gonna need some more time with it.
Owlchemist  [author] 7 Feb, 2023 @ 2:20pm 
@groundhog and white - looking in these issues now, thanks.
lilwhitemouse 7 Feb, 2023 @ 8:03am 
This was working great for a while, but now my caravaneers aren't roping the animals to get ready to go on the caravan :( They just ignore all animals with training, but do load them up....and then go to the edge of the map, where they just sit and wait forever for the animals to come join them...which they can't, because they're in a pen?
a_groundhog 4 Feb, 2023 @ 12:09pm 
Small oversight: Animals with boundary training still get roped to a caravan hitching spot, but not to a pen.

Would it be possible to make the second change, not penning trained animals, configurable too?The change makes it kind of awkward for animals like horses that can't get across fences. Boundary trained animals can't get into pens, at least not pens that keep untrained animals inside. There isn't really a way to make a barn that let's in the trained animals, but keeps the untrained ones from roaming. Is it possible to let trained animals use fence gates?

I mostly use this mod when caravanning or in emergencies because overall pens make management of herds easier. The pawns can separate males and females automatically without me messing with zones.
Owlchemist  [author] 2 Feb, 2023 @ 3:11pm 
v1.2
- The minimum body size is no longer hardcoded, and you configure it in the mod options.
- Improved recognition on if an animal needs to be penned or not based on training, notably with how some mods like Giddy-up check for things like this.
大鸭鸭失意公爵 23 Dec, 2022 @ 12:11am 
Can Animals of size be configured?I want to graze my little chicken🌽🌽
Kaden Ha 12 Nov, 2022 @ 2:40am 
I have Hunt for me but this is loaded right after it. The only other mods that influence animal behavior are Animal Logic and Animal Control. Better Pawn Control could also be the culprit as it mass assigns anything for everything.
Owlchemist  [author] 12 Nov, 2022 @ 12:26am 
Not sure, I just tested it now with a cow and the zone settings were still there when I reloaded. You got any other training related mods going? They're order sensitive.
Kaden Ha 11 Nov, 2022 @ 7:13pm 
My pen animals with trainability of None and trained in Boundary will not have their zone restriction saved and set to "Unrestricted" zone when load the save.
Owlchemist  [author] 3 Nov, 2022 @ 2:16am 
Just ran a quick test right now with a pig. Seemed to work fine for me. Restricted it to a 3x3 zone in the middle of a desert sand field and it wouldn't step out of it all day.
Kaden Ha 3 Nov, 2022 @ 2:10am 
It seems the mod is partially not working. Yes, the boundary trained animals stop roaming and have their zone enabled, but they still don't obey zone restrictions. I forcefully carry them into the zone and they still wander off the zone (not to mistake with roam away).
ALE199 2 Nov, 2022 @ 1:59pm 
would this work for 1.4? I mean I hope it does
Owlchemist  [author] 27 Oct, 2022 @ 9:08pm 
Yes. But only because there's no overlap. Boundary trained animals can't operate doors, regardless.
晓山alreShan 27 Oct, 2022 @ 9:01pm 
thank you :D
晓山alreShan 27 Oct, 2022 @ 9:01pm 
I have a Compatibility-question, "is this compatible with [Locks] ?"

Locks: https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1157085076&searchtext=locks
Visoth 26 Oct, 2022 @ 11:40am 
I will try enabling/disabling my mods to see if any are causing it. (accidently deleted my original comment about this issue...oops! Thought it was edit button)
Owlchemist  [author] 26 Oct, 2022 @ 11:23am 
Just double-checked - this mod makes no patches to pens. Not sure.
Visoth 25 Oct, 2022 @ 12:58pm 
Thank you for this mod! I was going insane trying to rope 15+ muffalo's while caravaning.
D1rtyLewis 12 Oct, 2022 @ 1:55pm 
sick
Owlchemist  [author] 12 Oct, 2022 @ 1:17pm 
1.4 support added
D1rtyLewis 9 Aug, 2022 @ 7:38pm 
fence an area in and put a pen marker inside
Devilfires 21 May, 2022 @ 10:27am 
how do i build a pen?
[DKS] Killaim 16 Jan, 2022 @ 6:13am 
could you add an option to make animals able to open doors?
Pet Mudstone 30 Dec, 2021 @ 9:25pm 
Similarly, it would be nice if normally roaming animals with boundary training didn't cause the "Pen needed" alert.
Very Lost Fuelrat 30 Dec, 2021 @ 6:40pm 
Would it be possible for the pawns to no longer rope boundary-trained critters? I was hoping that once they were boundary trained, my pawns could use them as mounts, get off when needed, and the animal would go back to the pen w/o one of my pawns feeling the need to slowly drag the animal back via roping.
Everchanging Nickname 8 Nov, 2021 @ 4:12am 
1.2 please)
I.R.R.I.S.H. 26 Oct, 2021 @ 12:46pm 
Yay! I knew a modder would eventually correct Tynan's poor decisions.