very good mod

#UkraineSimp Fatigue.

WAIT I FIGURED IT OUT
I misunderstood the "dev point cap is removed" note!
I thought it meant maximum number of points for a reform (like in vanilla)

This is absolutely amazing!

I really think im doing something wrong.

I grow my ideoligion, it costs more points.
I reform, it costs more points.
I add a meme, it costs points, I change a precept, it almost always costs points.

Am i supposed to gain points to spend in some way?
if i need 20 points to reform, i earn them, hit reform, and see "Points 20/20" and almost any change puts it up into the red.I feel like the one on the left is supposed to be less than the one on the right, but the cost of the reform and believers means i cant spend it on reform?

I like this mod but do have a complaint: not being able to go cooky enough with the settings! I wanna be able to set the max development points cost to 100 without needing to multiply how many I gain! Ah, the misery!

Yo what is that blurry ass image LMAO

So stand with vlademir

Thank you!!!

stand with ukraine? hah more like stank with the rain

Using it with 1.4 and doesn't seem to work for other ideologies than my starting one.
Not the slightest difference and dont want to go to 1.5.

Does this remove the max number of memes?

@Garwel yah i found this <givesDevelopmentPoints>false</givesDevelopmentPoints>
And that did it :) But thx for getting back on it :)

@kongkim As far as I remember, this mod shouldn't add dev points on its own, it can only modify the amount added by vanilla.

Hi @Garwel I'm working on a research mod that uses the ritual mechanics, the problem is that every time they do research with it and I'm using this mod they gain development points, is there a way to disable it for specific rituals in the mod files?

You Get Development point when even choose classic like?

You development point when even choose classic like?

Hey, I'm a bit worried and was wondering how this works with the Vanilla Expanded Tribals start, where you start without an ideology? You get to create one when you go past the neolithic stage, but right at the game start this mod here asks if I want to make my ideology fluid. Has this been tested by someone, will I have points to make an ideology? Or should I keep this mod out of the modlist until I create my ideology once I finish the neolithic portion of the game?

Would you be able to make a Precept Cost per colonist believer and per like minded faction much like you did for the Base Cost? I don't usually play with the base cost going up, but I do have the Precept Cost going up per impact.

I was looking to see if I could find a mod that lets me make a new fluid ideology (by either breaking off like a schism or maybe merging with another inspired person from another ideology to make a hybrid of the two that is fluid). But I found this. Looks really cool, can't wait to try it out. I may have to two the ideology shift differently than i hoped in my next game for now though.

hmm, I must have missed it. thank you very much!

@TheSevenSins Everything you are talking about (and more) is in the mod's settings.

If not, it would be nice if you could configure the bonus ammount of points. Maybe you want 1 point per gain, maybe you want 3, depends on how people play. I like to make things more point expensive but make the base reform cost 0 for exemple.

Is it possible to disable the double point gain? It makes me gain point way too fast for what I want the system to work and makes it confusing with the alerts being wrong in how many points you gain

if it was an option: it's probably easiest to just keep the development cost related to the pawns the player faction has and not across the world map. Let's not go overboard

@ReformCostPerFollower It's possible, but the number of believers can vary drastically, while the influx of dev points is fairly limited. Moreover, if you share the ideoligioon with other factions, you just can't calculate the believers count. Perhaps I'll add it as an optional factor, off by default.

@MercuryRiver In dev mode, you can add as many ideology development points as you want.

Idea:

Development points required for the next reform is based on the amount of pawns that follow the specific ideology. So if you only have 1 colonist, you only need 1 development point, but if you have 10 colonists you need 10.

Theoretically it should be easier to reform if you're by yourself or with a small group.

Must say i really like this mod :)

Is there a possibility to add an option that if a changed/added/removed meme changes precepts to make those changes to the precepts not cost any additional points?

I wish this didn't affect editing in dev mode. Often after I start the game I want to tweak a bunch of the random ideas but I can only pick one meme even if they had several.

Ah I understand, thanks. Yeah I was playing solo and realised I just couldn't evolve a fluid ideo, lesson learned, no fluid for solo :D

@Wintermist If I understood you correctly, it may require changes to rituals, which this mod doesn't do. The ritual system is very complex, and I haven't learned it yet, so it's not something I can do at the moment.

I was wondering if you wouldn't mind, if even possible, a small development point mod where you always get at minimum 1 for any ritual, so if I run a solo settlement, I can still evolve my ideology, albeit very slowly. What do you think? Right now, with my setup, I'm not getting any points at all lol

Yes.

Is it safe to add mid-game? Taking into account the colony ideology is fluid

Thanks again for the mod! is it compatible with "All Ideoligions Are Fluid" mod? ( https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2872901762 )

Sorry, I notice now that sounds a bit like I was complaining. I was trying to say that while I enjoy the mod, the original game's Ideology system doesn't feel like it was well made for it and that unless certain changes were made, that I, a picky being, can only use it with Ducks' No Limits - Ideology as Memes, a base game thing, are annoyingly weird. Certain... "problems"? present in the base game aren't present in the mod, but certain "problems" in the mod aren't present in the base game. Either way, I prefer the mod over the base game. I'm deleting my other comments, they were worded badly, though I have no doubts this is as well.

@Xaviancat You are free to make a submod with your own presets (via XML patches) and recommende settings.

@phlux Try the "surprise precepts mode". You still need to choose the memes, but the corresponding presets are generated for you (and are free).

Is it possible to add the option to make the reform random? Like the game chooses in the background what will change next and then it just happens as soon as the points are aquired?
That would really be a great feature for people like me who like to play the game with basically everything randomized.

@[lol] vlad-lecteur Should be fixed now.

The "adding 6 drums' rituals cost only 2 points" issue is still there, unfortunately :( Other than that, a great mod truly.

@hottt3 It already works this way. But of course different precepts have different gameplay value, and it's not accounted for in automatic settings.

Besides 'Vanilla Ideology Expanded - Memes' mod I have at least six more mods that add memes and/or precepts. (I would readily give you links to them if you want). This is why I'm cautious to install this mod because of possible incompatibilities/imbalances. It would be great to add a setting in options for such players as me, who like highly modded games, to unify all settings regardless of mods. For example, adding a meme could cost 2/4/6 dev points depending on meme's impact, changing a precept say 1 or 2 points. Thanks)

@hottt3 I haven't made a patch for it, so memes should be supported ok, but new precepts may not be balanced.

That sounds great! Is it compatible with Vanilla Ideology Expanded https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2636329500 ?

"Surprise Precepts Mode" uses the randomize precepts button? (who seems to never adds new precepts)

Found the reason: the ritual did not belong to my core ideology, so that's why there were no points.

Yep, pretty sure. It was acting a bit strange afterwards — not showing the rewards, but they appeared the moment I turned the debug mode on. So yeah.. don't know whether that was intended or not

@[lol] vlad-lecteur Are you sure you played with the latest version of the mod? It should've fixed the ritual awards.