any idea if you gonna update this mod please ?

when update?

Incompatible as a 'Birchworld Start' - as it starts without any districts, causing population death by overcrowding and starvation.
I haven't tested as a late-game 'build your own'

Update1: Tested by starting new game with mod disabled. Allowing districts to spawn, then saving. Then enabled mod and loaded savegame...after unpausing, all the districts disappear. Looks like some dynamic calculation is going off and removing the districts (pop 27, which is the starting pop for my new game)

please dont update this :(

its a shame this mod is now no longer getting updates but thankfully it still mostly works as intended (as far as i know) and its still fun

goofy ahh mod dead :(

Update?

Would be cool to see an update of this mod

update to 3.9 pls

pls update to 3.8, this mod was very good

Please update to 3.7

Currently this mod has compatibility issues with the new decaying birch world start in the latest Gigastructural update. You'll need to disable it until it's updated or else you'll only be able to build city/industrial districts on the birch world and your archaeological district will disappear after one month and won't come back.

Since 3.7 gigas have rebalanced some stuff, will this need to be updated as well ro will we be fine to use this despite being technically out of date?

Alderson discs has some soft gameplay incompatibility with mods, that add traits with exotic upkeep: living metal and nanites, for example. There is no way to make enough resources, and you can't buy them... Is there any way to kill exotic upkeep, or be able to afford it?

okay. Thanks!

Only one can have the system, AFAIK.

I see! What happens if 2 empires choose that system? (Via "force spawn" in the empire creation menue, or AI naturally picking it with 2 empires)

system you choose

ah. Is it an origin or just a system you choose

@CTH2004 no, it doesn't spawn in the galaxy. you have to set it as a starting system for your empire.

so, just searching for the system sould work? (The "f" key)

system initializer in empire creation :3

can you explain how to find that Void Ark system? (What event do you use)?

thanks!@

unfathomably based

Just dropping in to say @paulo is cringe. and has small penis problems. meanwhile I have big elephant dick issues like where I have to put all this birch world things!

thanks for the feedback :3 Yeah, mastrioska brains are no joke!

in base gigas, they are already very powerful. the ringworld segments you build can gives multiplicative buffs, and you can get 10s of thousands of research from them. It dwarves even a PLGH alderson computer, which is intended.

if gigas mastrioska brains had been weak, this mod would have buffed these too :3 but rn they are already one of the biggest sources of research.

oops my bad, i just looked it up... The Milky Way is on the order of Hundreds of Billions of stars, not "merely" tens of billions.

And Andromeda is around a trillion

K3 is BIG

Part 2 of my comment on Matrioshka Brains:
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This comment is mostly on real life capabilities of a M-Brain, to give you a sense of scale.
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If you limit/give each upload mental capabilities equal to what we think our current squishy brains do, an M-Brain is capable of having population numbers of a "traditional" biological K3 civilization, orbiting a single star.

Remember that a K3 civilization is one where each and every star - the tens of billions of them - are covered in inhabited Dyson Swarms. Where each Dyson swarm would have the equivalent living space of all the naturally existing planets surface area in the entire galaxy combined. (that is, if you were to "more traditionally" colonize, terraform, or build habitation domes, etc. on every rock and every planet that exist in the galaxy).

Tens of billions of galaxies of population. In one star system.

That is how big a Matrioshka Brain really is.

In order to be able to post this, I'm going to split my comment into two:

First, and foremost:

Great mod! Honestly, If you're going big, go really big, ya know? ;)

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Next, there is one thing I'd like to ask, that you include Matrioshka Brains (specifically their "virtual reality").

M-Brains are significantly underpowered compared to what they should be...

In real life, an M-Brain has the advantage of the people being uploads who use far less resources and can augment their brain power, not just thousands of times, but millions to trillions of times, perhaps more.

So perhaps, add a modifier that makes uploaded pops output 100x or 1000x research or something? Keeping the available "room" for uploads what it is, by making each upload significantly trans-sapient. (so pop numbers don't go insane, game engine issues)

So I have a suggestion. Change it to a decision that makes the given habitable into its late game form. As in its current state using these habitables at all is impossible without absolutely absurd infrastructure.

How does one create a Void Birch World?

Does the Void Ark origin require ACOT? I had it as an option with my previous modlist [w/ ACOT], but with my current modlist which has most of the same mods [minus ACOT and ACOT-submods] it's not an option. I can start this run with galaxy center Birch World but it'd be nice to play with Aeturnum as a crisis.

Let's go, keeping Alderson & Birch districts relevant for ACoT.

@Faded can we please get an update to 3.4 asap

Yeah, this is impossible to sustain, unfortunately. The 1000 consumer goods per pop no matter the job is killer. Could you reduce the penalty per pop to maybe 2000%?

Why did you not add some way to get minerals on Gaia Alderson Discs? I have no way to fuel my economy mineralwise when I advance...

i feel like a desicion for frame world that adds the megastructure speed jobs would be useful not sure what you would gate it behind tho

How can one play with gigantic mods like gigas and ACOT with stellaris still no utilizing fu**ing multi-thread? While i am entering stellarite age, game becomes unplayable even on the slowest speed.
P.S. I have 5800x, which is even in one tread is competitive enough, but it is still 100% on one thread and 15% on other 15 :(

Is it really supposed to be 120k upkeep for some of this stuff?

@Guan Dao No problems on my end. Make sure your load order is correct: this mod should be after gigas.

Additionally, you might have another mod overwriting the files, or you might not have pops assigned to the jobs.

oh, forgot why i even was in the comment section @faded im playing a machine gestalt and my gigastructual engineering hyper segments on the gaia alderson and machine alderson structure only give minerals and no build speed bonus.

@Jackson
As an engineer with passion for studying mega engineering I feel you are overlooking many key components. Relying on making the shell thicker is archaic in comparison to the project that is being looking on. it would be more practical to use positive structural reinforcement techniques.

if each layer was composed of rings of mass accelerators, then the force of the mass in the rings spinning can counteract the pull of gravity anywhere outside the event horizon due to the centrifugal force exerted on the structure. The question of how strong the reinforcement is is based on how fast you can spin the materials inside the mass accelerator.

Its by no means a simple project, but its also by no means 'impossible' more useless and wasteful.

Y'know what would be cool?

Having Megastructure build speed districts as default (or at least as standalone mod/addon).

The best bet for a birch world-like construction is a series of habitats with in the ergosphere of a black hole, ensuring that they're kept in stable, synchronous orbits and without having to worry about having to withstand intense pressure and forces like a shell would. You can get the same surface area, but it's much more practical and you can easily build it incrementally.

To clarify, a black hole's density increases as it gets smaller - and hence its surface gravitation increases - and decreases as it gets larger. The largest known black holes have the density of water due to this fact.

Saggitarius A* *would* be more practical, coming in at only 0.002 solar masses to construct the same shell as the 500m solar mass black hole, providing 1.8 x 10^21 square km of surface area, but it would still weigh 6.7 thousand solar newtons, resulting in there being *more* pressure at every point of the shell.

Even if you did construct one, though... why? What could you possibly use all of that surface area for? There's no real point in making that much livable room, when smaller objects like ringworlds could still fit multiple civilizations worth of people on them. It'd take longer to populate than the black hole would last, and it'd be so vast that it's unlikely any unified civilization could be held together, seeing as how it could fit many, many, many civilizations on its surface.

That shell would then weigh about 240 thousand solar... newtons, due to the intense gravitational pull of the black hole. It would be insanely generous to assume that a SHELL 1km thick could survive this force.

Smaller black holes wouldn't really help with this weight issue, because the density of a black hole - and hence its surface gravitation - decreases with its size. Using a larger black hole, on the other hand, would require a truly insane amount of mass.

@Riddle 78

As an actual physicist, the engineering required is likely simply impossible.

As an example, a moderately sized supermassive black hole is in the neighborhood of 500 million solar masses. Such a black hole would have a radius of 1.5 billion kilometers. A single shell encircling that black hole would then have a surface area of about 3.2 x 10^26 kilometers. Assuming the shell was a kilometer thick and had the same density as carbon fiber (2000kg/m^3), the shell would have a mass of about 28 solar masses. This would require, at a bare minimum, the conversion of dozens of stars directly, kg for kg, into building materials for a single shell. That feat a lone is not impossible, but in practice it would likely require hundreds or thousands of stars as only a fraction of a star's mass is likely to be convertible to suitable materials.

@Paulo
The Birch World was first theorized by actual scientist Paul Birch. It is a series of layered Shell Worlds in orbit of an inactive supermassive black hole. An inactive supermassive black hole is required because of,one,it's not ejecting any considerable amount of radiation into the cosmos which would punch a hole through it,and two,it's large enough for you to build an actual civilization on its many surfaces. An ordinary black hole simply doesn't have the size needed to accomplish the Matrioshka Doll of habitable 1G surfaces that a Birch World provides. So instead,we get Penrose Sphere Ringworlds.

The science is real. The science is sound. The only remotely thing crazy about it is the scale,and that is effortlessly solved by the simple fact that interstellar empires that work in megaengineering would be able to work on that scale,anyways.

I need to give in to the dark side, and just see how absurdly powerful this makes things.