this might be abandoned, but by any chance is there a way to backup save data?

i cant find the maps help

Persisted entities not counting in the gamemode is a bug, I've added the issue to the to-do list.

When using global persistence and spawning in a spawner + target and loading the gamemode, it loads and instantly loses, but if you wait a second before joining a team you can still play with the loss screen up. Would be cool if this worked (persisting spawner and target and them actually counting in the gamemode) or having skills in sandbox (which im sure is much harder so im not asking for it)

the blue gblimp is a moab

MOAB, handle it!

what the hell is a moba?

alright

I'll try to retest this sooner rather than later and see if something in the latest update is causing problems.

i think this broke rip :( loaded in and when i spawned i wasnt given the swep

no, I legit don't have the time for that

are you making a moba?

This is great! Keep up the amazing work!

I can't really fully test it because all of the official ROTGB's Maps don't have water as it was removed long ago. So i wonder how Piengineer12 will make the Potion Brewer useable on the maps. An idea that comes to mind is Piengineer12 can add a new buyable/placeable "Building"

It can be a new section called Buildings kind of like powers in Bloons TD 6 since the Potion Brewer is really strong and has 8 paths, investing in a building that holds water so you can place Potion Brewers seems fair to me. As an example maybe placing Pools where you can then put Potion Brewers in. This can also open the possibilities of future (WATER TOWERS) and the possibilities of more water typed gballoons like the aqua Gballoon.

@Zayxp173 Haha i mean what do you expect from a tower that has 8 TOTAL PATHS!
I honestly wasn't expecting Piengineer12 to go through with that idea but i'm very grateful that he did he's an absolute MADLAD!

hey who ever suggested the potion brewer tower you kinda made the strongest tower in the game and its broken as hell

Suggestion: costumes for towers.

This is a good alternative to bloons. even recommended it to my dad!

i made a map for this gamemode!1!!1 omg!11!11!

thanks for the popper achievement

alr

No. There are plans to implement a new class that only uses upgradable weapons, but my attention is completely scattered across all of my addons. Even if I start, it'll take half a year or so to complete.

is it possible to get the balloon shooter in the gamemode?

Yeah chill out

okay

@Zayxp173
Chill, I've read it even before you commented on it. Time is not on my side at the moment.

@piengineer12 look at funkey monkey's suggestion

@Piengineer12 look at funky monkey's 3 comment long suggestion

@funkey monkey wow thats a really cool suggestion

PT.3 of my BTD-BATTLES-ish thing

The ultimate tool of the Masters is unlocked once they build a "Weapons Shop", the Majorly Annoying Sabotaging Terrifyingly Evil Remote. This can call in additional gBalloons that hunt the builders, give the gBalloons a temporary, lightning-fast speed boost, drain lives to the point of death, and most importantly, can remove towers! However, all of these come at a high, high price. Every single sabotage costs not only a ton of cash, but also gBalloons. Upon using a sabotage, 25% of the gballoons in the wave are absorbed and killed, with all money going to the builders.

Didn't really think of balance during this, just wanted something that sounded fun and would make the builder's lives interesting instead of "place tower that shoot balloon get cash upgrade towers get money tower that give cash get more cash repeat", and also something to make their lives absolute misery if they dont fight off the Masters quick enough.

PT.2 of my suggestion
It's an arms race! The gBalloon Masters can build "Balloon-ish Towers", such as walls, towers that can shoot and fend off the builders, as well as Life Stealers that slowly take away from the Builder's lives count, but cannot kill. All of these require cash, and can be upgraded! To get cash, they have to sacrifice one vital part of their arsenal: gBalloons! By pressing E on a gBalloon, the master picks it up. They must then carry it to their area and put it in a "Mineshaft", making the gBalloon work, earning the Masters cash. The mineshafts can be upgraded to make even MORE money, and faster!
once again, 1000 character limit hits me, guess ill have to get a pt.3

this is my suggestion for a "BTD Battles"-ish thing

A new team is added: gBalloons Master
This team is like the builders, and they even walk around the map as well!
They can upgrade the Balloons using cash.
You might be asking: "But how do they get cash?"
Thats where the fun part comes in.
As soon as a gBalloons master appears on the map, they spawn at a hidden spawnpoint somewhere the Builders wont easily be able to see them right away. All builders get a "Master Shooter" that can be upgraded to fight back against the Masters. However, the Masters also get a "Builder Shooter" that also can be upgraded.

because of the 1000 characters limit im splitting this into two parts, i already copied the other part lol

@Piengineer12 Yeah that's true

@The Dark Legend
I'm not saying it's impossible, it's just that it'll take a lot of time. I don't have to follow the BTD battles formula exactly, there's a lot of other ways I can make the gBalloons / towers significantly worse.

@Zayxp173 @Piengineer12 No offense to you Piengineer12 but the balancing is so unbalanced that a BTD battles type gamemode just wouldn't be fun. If it's a "Whoever lasts the longest and doesn't die wins" then nobody is losing because the towers/upgrades are just THAT strong. Even if their was a mechanic to send gballoons, i just don't see it working Zayxp173.

@piengineer12 okay thats fine

@Zayxp173
There are no plans for a PvP mode at this time. That requires new, specific maps.
Remember, I'm alone when it comes to working on this.

@piengineer12 hey remember when somebody requested for there to be a btd battles thing for the gamemode i think you should keep on working on that if you are having trouble with the weapons

@piengineer12 what if all the weapons were handheld weapon versions of the towers like a fire cube flamethrower or a particle charger railgun and pawn pistol and even a rainbow beamer ray of doom

@piengineer12 what if all the weapons were handheld weapon versions of the towers

@piengineer12 OK
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@Zayxp173
This has already been suggested actually, I've received critical feedback that there should be a class that just uses upgradable weapons.

Problem is that I haven't dedicated the time to actually implement the weapons yet.

@piengineer12 i have an idea for a bloon shooting class
weapon master whould be a class that has their own version of the rotgb gamemode swep
where instead of buying towers you buy custom bloon weapons like a spikey fist or the bloon shooter but nerfed and sets bloons on fire

@Zayxp173 Oh.

@the dark legend the classes are the other teams like spectator
but only builder and spectator work the others say cant join team

i have an idea for a bloon shooting class
weapon master whould be a class that has their own version of the rotgb gamemode swep
where instead of buying towers you buy custom bloon weapons like a spikey fist or the bloon shooter but nerfed and sets bloons on fire

@Zayxp173 What other classes?

@Conga Dispenser Yeah it being in sandbox mode is fine in my opinion.

thanks piengineer now i know why the other classes dont work

@Piengineer12 Yeah to be honest i didn't like the balloon shooter although, it did allow you to have another role as (You) Being the Defense and it was unique. I understand that it would take a while to add new weapons with fair balancing.