@OrangeQuill - It's safe to ignore, it's just a part of the main SpeakUp mod.

I got this weird (and very minor bug) where my mod manager is saying this mod needs a 0.0.0 Version of speak up??? I dont think it affects much in game just inconvenient to leave the mod list from the warning

@PHCGamer just do it yourself instead of being a bitch to the dev.

How about instead of waiting around for that to maybe be added, you go over to the comments of speakup and ask the dev to add that?

@PHCGamer - The mod was never broken, it's just a matter of the parameters not being built into the speakup mod. The team would need to add the lifestages parameter in order for me to truly fix the issue.

Hey you still here? This mod is still broken.

So apparantly lifeStageAges is the variable you should go by

If speakup doesn't have the tools needed, ask them to fix that lack of tools.

So you need to make the mod work with things other than age

I asked the PM devs again, and they responded with: "I have provided all i can offer. Either they find a different way to handle it than looking only on age, or it's an unfixable conflict.
A conflict mind you that - as i mentioned - is not PM specific, but will also impact any other mod with "sentient" adult pawns below the arbitrary age values they defined."

What about checking the developmentalStage value?

@PHCGamer - It wouldn't due to the GrammarUtilities setup within SpeakUp. It only allows for biological age to be used in this mod.

You could just divide any pawn's current age by their life expectancy, multiply by 80, then use that number to calculate if the pawn should talk like a child. Would that work?

So apparently the functions to calculate relative age from pawnmorpher are public so

Turns out you can't do that.

@PHCGamer- That would work as well

More like pawnmorpher "remembering" the pawn's relative age in human years and telling the rest of the game (except for the UI and whatever determines age-related hediffs) that's the pawn's age.

@PHCGamer - Yeah, if Pawnmorpher used the same age curve for the transformed Pawn rather than the animal, that would essentially solve the issue.

Do you think it'd help if Pawnmorpher gave Speakup the age the pawn would be if reverted? Or would that cause MORE problems?

@PHCGamer - Easiest thing to do would be to use Character Editor and change the age of the fully transformed Pawn to be anything over 4. Normal dialogue will resume at that point.

What should I do for now, then?

@PHCGamer - The problem more so lies in how SpeakUp initiates dialogue and how Pawnmorpher identifies former humans. This mod uses the "age" identifier in SpeakUp's ExtraGrammarUtility class. SpeakUp does have a flag for alienRaceDef, but that would require me to list log entries for every single modded race, which, I think I could make happen, but it's going to take some time.

Not actually compatible entirely with Pawnmorpher. It doesn't account for relative aging in former humans. If I turned a 20-year-old into a sheep, for example, they'd start talking like a baby. Can you please fix that?

@Holgast - No problem! If you want to change the age, open up each of the xml's in Notepad++, then do a search for INITIATOR_age<=10, and set Replace to INITIATOR_age<=(whatever age you want to change it to). Then click Replace All in All Opened Documents. Should be a quick edit honestly.

I might use this one instead, as I thought the insults were a step too far & mean-spirited. thanks for providing an alternative!

@TurtleShroom - My pleasure!

Thank you so much for this.