make one for rochelle for a friend

@Neeko: i might do

Just out of curiosity do you think you could do this for Rochelle as well?

yeah, no probs. it's good to help others, and i'm glad that i was of any amount of help.

@jc: my thoughts right there and i appreciate the support right there.

it's all good, stuff like this takes some trial and error. i know you'll figure it out, friend.

@jc: alright, when i get time, i'll tried to match the size of this mod with the one you've provided, although do bear in mind this will come with some arm bugs.

https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2389947847
this should be the one.

oh, my bad, didn't see your comment, hold on.

@jc: say, do you mind providing a link to the susie mod you tried this mod out with so i can try to match noeille's size with her since i've learned how to implant the Size Proportions now. please reply soon.

This is nice, noelle has kinda snapped and just whipped out the glock.

@EddyterminatorX: Cheers

This is good

here's a steam guide: https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=387467984

lemme see what i can find.

@j.c well i have got blender, just have not found a tutorial on how to make these Survivor mods in that tool yet.

@j.c: alright, any help that you can give will be appreciated.

have you ever tried to get blender?

that's good. most people usually don't got that perspective. if i can find anything else, i can post it here, but if i can't, then i at least feel as if this was a nice conversation.

@j.c: i'm pleased too, because unlike @huntertroller, i am always open to feedback and suggestions to improve my mods.

@jc: okay apart from the first video, this is exactly the tutorial i have used to create these mods, and i just don't see any mention of the size proportions.

alright. i'm glad this was a civilized conversation. if this helps you, i can see you being a really good model modder. i'm also glad you are open to learning new stuff as well. i wish you the best of luck in this endeavor.

@j.c: alright i'll see if i can put this to good use.

@j.c: that's what i was thinking

also, this should maybe help. as i looked it up.

Part 1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FfMhlSEjwxU
Part 2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwG3v4Y9R_M
Part 3: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCtzMNi5LWc
Part 4: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lwhCnhPQqyc
Part 5: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_DyzgeamHG0
Part 6: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M4fvMxeZkIk
Part 7: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0OzvdNlkUA

I know it's a lot of parts, and unless you've seen these already, i hope this could help with getting custom proportions.

i think you could do it both before and after, but for safety, try before first.

@j.c: also, does this need to be done before or after the skin is wrapped on the skeleton?

lemme see if 3ds max can do this too.

@j.c: well i'm afraid that's not going to work for me, as i use 3DS Max to create these mods for L4D2.

yeppers.

here's a video that could help you out:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYJh80F5R74

if this helps you, i hope to see what more you could do.

@j.c: is that a tool in blender?

oh, i understand. have you ever tried custom proportions?

@j.c: i do understand with what you are saying, but like I've said before, had to make them the same size as the skeleton, otherwise i know that the model will just glitch out entirely, as for the facial expressions, just have not learned how to do them yet, but i can try to do something about the first person hands.

i aslo wanna clarify, that i'm not saying this to hate on you, or say that you're bad at making mods...i just know that this one definitely could be better.

i do understand this is a commission, but one critique i've had with your mods, but i'm saying it now...the proportions aren't good. i had this enabled with the susie mod, and she's taller than even susie. the hands, as fucked as they are, and the lack of facial animations don't even bother me that much. it's just the size of the model is the problem.