Did you try to get a senior modder or CA developer?

Yeah, the understanding behind that one still evades me.

Don't understand anything new about surrender settlements? I really didn't know it would be possible, I always demand for surrender and it does not happen :')

Hi Luis! The mod should still work. I've played a few more hours with the spy system after posting this but haven't learned anything new to add to this mod. If anyone else learns anything please feel free to share.

It seems you are not working on this any more.

I newly learnt there is a spy system, after 81 turns and 300 hours playing with the Nanman :')

I can't run the game after using it. Is there a requirement for the loading order of this MOD?

It should work as long as that mod does not also change the Spy tooltips.

My English is not very good. Please understand. May I ask if your MOD is compatible with the [Alpha Version 0.8] Chibi Start Date?

Here are the notes for "Instigate Civil War":

In Game Description : Trigger a civil war between those most loyal to the spy and those less satisfied with their rule, strongly reinforcing your influence over the faction in the process.

Mod's Additional Notes : Your spy must be the target's Faction Leader. Spawns a new rebel faction from the target faction. Target faction must have more characters under 25 satisfaction than otherwise. Settlements must have negative 50 public order to defect.

I haven't been able to figure out the question that I left in the mod's description.

@Levie Could you respond the two questions you made in the description?

This mod honestly should of been incorporated with vanilla its so good! I mean i dont know how difficult it was to create but well done Levie. Pretty sure i use this in all my collections i.e. Radious, TUP, TROM, Wu King etc!

Absolutely!

Hi, thank you for creating excellent mod. Can I translate this mod to Korean?

btw is this mod save game compatible>? or you must start a new campaigh?
Thank's in advance.

awarded this awesome mod that kraze made, thanks for contributing m8, gj :"D

Just want let you know the Chinese language patch has done.

Sure

I like this mod, any chance you can authorized me to translate a Chinese patch?

Hello, is there any hope to get the Chinese version?

wow so useful. The game has been in dire need of this modification, thanks for uploading

Regarding the first question. Is this settlement a capital city? Does this settlement have connection to your territory?

@Lotus Eater23: I hear that! Thanks for the feedback!

@Boar of the 4th Year: Agreed!

@jras: Thanks so much for taking the time to look into that. I'm going to update the mod with this information.

Much needed mod! Even for a player like myself with thousands of hours on 3K, its such a quality of life improvement, thanks!!

Awesome mod! Total War games withhold the numbers way too much glad to see that you are fixing things.

Q: does your faction declare war on the target faction if it is not at war already?
No, they don't know it was your spy. If you are already at war, ,and your spy becomes rebel faction leader, they start off at peace with you and have positive diplomacy towards you for "liberating" them. I believe it's the same (without the positive feelings) if the rebellion does not include your spy, but they will likely declare war on you because they retain memory of previous hostilities.

By the way, if you want to test easily as you mod, slap on a negative satisfaction mod for the AI and trial & error what happens as you tweak the negative value.

This is good stuff

This info was gathered from doing a global search for "civil_war" in DAVE, so it might be incomplete.
To trigger civil war:
In campaign_variables, there is a key called civil_war_trigger_threshold...=1 and the description is: (IN GAME) (sum of joining separatists rank / sum of loyalists rank) >= this value.
I have had the instigate civil war action click thru but nothing happened before because every character was satisfied.
Who joins the rebel faction?
In campaign_group_civil_war_defection_loyalty_thresholds, 75 is the threshold for your spy to become the rebel leader, 25 is the threshold for satisfaction for other characters, -50 public order for defecting settlements. There's also a 50 public order value for spy_public_order threshold which I'm uncertain about.

That sounds about right. I will love to get the specifics. For example, do all characters under 20 satisfaction flip to a rebel faction? When the civil war is initiated, does your faction declare war on the target faction if it is not at war already?

Thanks for the feedback! ✌

Excellent. I did something similar with distance and other vaguely titled diplomatic factors. In regards to #2, I believe the game checks for the # of unhappy characters with sufficient power, and/or the ratio of unhappy to happy characters, and if sufficient, transfers them to the rebel faction.