Will this get updated?

Is it still working?

Still working as of 1.12

Awesome Mod, Lightbringer! Noticed the discussion below and wanted to point out that the better barbershop mod displays character height, though I think you've calculated yours differently then that mod creator did.

If you download the mod and check it out, you can see exactly what they did, but this is the line they used in window_barbershop.gui that displays height:

raw_text = "[Multiply_float( Add_float( Character.CalcMorphGeneAttribute('gene_height', 'body_height'), '(float)1' ), FixedPointToFloat(GuiScope.SetRoot(Character.MakeScope).ScriptValue('sex_height')) )|0v] [Localize('cm')]"

So, just to say, there may be a way to display height in game if you are interested.

No

Does this need an update?

@Nefarius The height scale is not accurate.

my custom characters always end up being half a foot taller than the height I choose. Anybody know why?

@Agami Whoa! Thanks for the information; I will definitely look into this. If the Blender models do in fact have units attached, as you seem to indicate, that might also allow better præcision in the value given in the label, too.

Women are shorter in CK3 than men. You can clearly see it when switching sex in the ruler designer. And if you open the portrait_editor from the console, you'll see that the same DNA produces a man and a woman of slightly different height. (switch camera to the main_menu one)

In Blender, the male body with a head is 175 m (yes, it's in meters there :) ) and female is 161.
So while nothing in script changes the height based on sex, the value is applied to different base meshes.
https://i.imgur.com/1Cds6hY.jpg

@LewisMandela2001 The actual height of your character will, of course, be maintained once he's created, but the height will not (and, unfortunately, cannot) be labelled anywhere else in the game.

Will this apply outside of Ruler Designer?

@Skeptic That's correct. The game doesn't consider sex whatsoever when determining character height. That itself could be modded, but is well beyond the scope of this particular mod.

Wait, so is height in Ck3 the same for men and women?

Oh ok thanks, I'll be looking forward to it

@Vampus Theoretically yes! There are some pæculiarities to the way the weight slider works which will make it more complicated, but I don't think there's anything that should make it impossible, so I'll certainly take a look at it when I've the time!

one of the best mods please also make weight

Is it possible to make the same mod with only weight?

dude ur amazing. I tried doing a height mod ingame like a year ago and couldn't figure anything out. Cool how you managed to get it in ruler-designer! :)

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Thanks for clarifying. Apologies for missing it.

@Aws as I explained earlier in the comments, I don't think this is possible. Since it's come up a few times now, I've added an FAQ section above that hopefully explains why.

Would it be possible to also show the height in the character window? It would be great to know how tall characters are in-game as well.

This is fantastic and I thoroughly enjoyed reading how you came to these results - I love seeing this kind of scholarly effort put to good use 😄

No the romans didn't, most of their army wasn't even roman. Plus the average height today is 5'9, back then it was around 5'7

Nobles where as tall as people are now days pretty much. and the roman army had a height requirement of 5'10 feet

@Topsider No, not specifically. As Steckel's study notes, heights were already higher overall in the Early Middle Ages compared to later eras, likely on account of nutritional benefit, even for the poor. It is certainly possible nobles were also taller as a result, though I would have to see a study to back that claim.

Even if this is the case, however, the game itself does not take this into account, just as it does not account for a height difference based on sexual dimorphism. And while nobility is certainly disproportionately represented in a game like Crusader Kings III, there are plenty of peasants, clerics, and other lowborn people who show up, and whose heights must also be accounted for by the model.

except the nobles were taller than average people for the time cause of standard of living, which you did not take in consideration, did you?

Finally, they added insecurities into ck3

Based?

@Nills My mod won't influence that; it merely displays height, it doesn't modify it. I'm by no means an expert in the game's DNA system, but I can think of a few potential causes:⁠—

If genes are inherited randomly from mother and father, as I believe they were in CK2, a shorter mother's height gene might be selected roughly half of the time, rather than the gene values being, for example, averaged;

Natural gene mutation might be implemented to vary the appearance of children, and if a height gene value is particularly high, it might only have room to be lowered, resulting in shorter offspring; and

Recessive genes, the second gene stored in the character DNA you can copy out of the Ruler Designer, will be inherited as the dominant gene for one quarter of all births. If the value of a tall man's recessive height gene is noticeably lower than his dominant gene's value, this will necessarily lower the height of his children on average.

@gunney456 I will check it out in-game when I've the time, but looking through the code, I don't think Fullscreen Barbershop does anything to affect gene values, which would be necessary for determining and displaying character height. If I'm wrong, though, it might well have something to teach me, so I'll definitely doublecheck this when I'm able!

My God, thank you so much for that. I've always been looking for a mod like this, as my dynasties' roleplays required tall characters and I was never sure if I had this on hand. Another thing that I don't know if your mod influences, is the genetic discrepancy in height in the characters that accompany this game since it was released, if you have a tall father and a mother of average height the child will often grow to a much smaller height than than the father's, which never made sense to me.

Holy shit I was just wondering about a height label mod this morning then lo and behold Steam recommends it to me

What about in the barbershop? Do you think there are values that can be utilized from that menu? Or even see what Fullscreen Barbershop does in that case.

@Nightgate Probably not, unfortunately. Gene values are exposed in the Ruler Designer, but they're not to my knowledge accessible during gameplay. Which is a pity! Labels aside, it would be really cool to be able to reference someone's height or hair color or the like in events, but there doesn't seem to be a way to do so præsently.

Is it possible to add a height label for characters in-game?

Dude i waited for a mod like this for such a long time. Great Job!

ahh, one more aspect to add to the breeding program! XD