I think this has a quirk with the "revive and vassalize Norscan tribe by occupying dark fortress" mechanic for WoC- any norscan faction that I've seen the dilemma for, regardless of choice, it seems like they cannot be revived. Kind of a bummer with Archaon and Kholek's campaigns to collect vassals like pokemon.

@Quizno 43-C Rover
Yes, use MCT.

Never used it before but is there a way to adjust so that you and the AI can only recruit factions of your own race?

Does not work, had it active and I don't get Boris.

Can confirm that accepting refugees when playing as Karl Franz reduces fealty by 2 each time for every elector count.

This was not an issue with an older version of the mod from last year.

@叁柏
Re-read the Description. Check your MCT settings.

New bug: When I was in the Tzeentch faction, I recruited N'Kari from the Slaanesh faction.

@JazzMonk: If you're talking about what I think you're talking about, that's how it works in vanilla . . .

I can't break a vassalage after choosing vassal option. Is this intended? It'd be preferable to have this option, otherwise have to be treacherous.

Does it not not work till after the confederation cooldown, I unsubcribed and resubscribed and was getting refugees for a bit then suddenly stopped. Didn't touch the settings any.

When I recruited the 3 Khorne LL as Vilitch, neither one had a blue line, and they came with reduced talent points as well. Not sure what could be the issue. Didnt have the same problem with N'kari, for instance.

Ive noticed the experimental cross faction confederation mct option allows others to recruit immortal generals inaccessible to you otherwise like caravans, ogre camps and black arks. is there a flag somewhere that allows us to get those units on the map as well without using a command console?

How do you set this up properly in the MCT Mod? Cause I'm playing as Elspeth, the faction Sylvania (Empire Faction) was recently destroyed, I have the turn delay set to 1, all the other preferences except for Player are disabled, and I haven't an option for refugees at all.

@Militus Immortalis and @sm0kin, is the update to fix these issues in progress?

Something about how your confederation mechanic is firing borks Karl's Empire mechanics. I've seen reliability tank in diplomacy as a result of confederating defeated elector counts and loyalty sometimes drops as a 'war declared on elector counts' malus.

can I recruit ll from other race-faction, I believe the current one doesn`t allow me to recruit from other faction.

As beastmen can i get chaos? want to recruit valkia but have only got other beastmen popups so far.

Yeah, we need to fix the effect of declaring war on defeated faction when recruiting the lord.

As Empire this causes a fealty penalty as if I had declared war on them.

Hi, playing as the dwarves, confederating factions that aren't in the Book still increases required grudges for further confederation by 7500. It is very punishing for what amounts to getting a single random lord with a special name. Shouldn't it count as a diplomatic confederation and thus not require extra grudges? (It's ok for lords that are in the Book to add to the grudges though, as they would have had to be confederated/revived that way)

@gz331903
What are your MCT settings? Did the faction have a Legendary Lord? Do you own their game / DLC?

why i Defeated Legendary Lords,did not Recruit them。why?

@Dean Winchester, if u read the Discription then u see it already has MCT and if u then look ingame then u know u can turn it off for the AI

This mod badly needs an MCT config to disable it for AI, or reduce the odds of a LL being confederated. Quite tiresome to fight the same characters I already wiped out, time and time again, especially with many mods that add new Legendary Lords.

First of all, thanks for this mod. I play as Belakor and I have an bug. When I pass turn 8, the legendary lords no longer appear. The ones I could recruit before disappear. Do the new settings for minor factions have any influence? I use radious and other mods, but it worked fine with it before patch 6.1.

Playing as Golgfag I am unable to recruit the other LL ogres after they were defeated.

I am experiencing a bug when playing as Grand Cathay Storm Dragon lord where I cannot recruit the Jade Dragon lord no matter what I do. I made a discussion which details my issue more thoroughly since I couldn't post the full statement I wanted to say as a comment due to the 1000 character limit.

Thanks for updating, Sm0kin and Mr Immortalis. Please accept this small treasure of points as a token of gratitude.

Temp bug fix https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3509062568

AI razes Empire city, I enter ruins, return to Elector, get a "declared war on Elector" penalty - is there a fix for this?

still resets the artifact missions when LL reapreared

So the only issue I've had with this mod is I believe that sometimes dead Skaven LL's will sometimes go to clan Carrion before other clans(when the player doesn't play as Skaven).

The issue is that this clan seems hardcoded to stay in place and so I'll see all of these good LL's turtled in Nagashizzar.

So ideally they should probably be the last skaven faction to get them probably.

If you recruit the legendary lord for the Legion of Chaos one is missing the entire gift system. Making him a very weak lord as one can't equip anything on him.

Thank you for this mod. I've had it since the mod came out. I just got the Khorne DLC and wanted to get Valkia to Khorne, however it didn't work out since she's a WoC legendary lord. Is there a possiblity for this mod to have an option where you could recruit lords from other factions?

@glospey
It worked in coop/heat-to-head in wh2.
But RDLL's script seems to cause desyncs when wh3's new simultaneous turn option is turned on. At least that's the most likely cause imo.

Weirdly that I keep receiving requests of legendary lords' artifacts belong to the lords I recruited, even tho those artifacts were already acquired, is it just me?

According to the description, mp never worked so . . . congrats on having it work before?

having an issue the last few days where this mod is not working for multiplayer :(

Non-canon factions may join us, such as: 'Chaos Dwarfs'. Yes, that's the actual name - I'm currently playing as Chaos Dwarfs.

I had another look at the script conditions for the deceiver faction and getting the RDLL dilemma for Changeling should be possible for the player (it's always disabled for ai because of the crash issue) IF his faction is completely wiped out.
Not sure how its "hidden cult" settlement mechanic works exactly, but it might just be that those hidden settlements keep his faction alive. But I don't own the dlc, so I can't test that.

Confederating Changeling's faction caused crashes when the dlc came out, so I disabled it. If I remember correctly his faction was, due to his unique mechanic, never "really" considered dead by the game.

changeling is not tzeentch race ? i set 1st perference same race and 2nd major faction and 3rd is player, normally the result is the other race will recruit by major AI of the same race until they all defeacted then only player get the event for recruit whole race LL, but for tzeentch i only get satoreal and kairos.

it doesn't work in multi?

There's a bug where you lose empire fealty and bretonnian chivalry by accepting refugees.

@Velg
No I'm getting it rn lol

was the bug with the empire fealty being reduced by recruiting defeated lords fixed?

I downloaded the mod before the new update, and which I got the event with the refugees a couple of times, I never was able to recruit a legendary lord. I hope that after this update it will be possible...

@Acephelos
Thanks! Should be fixed now.

@Louie04k
Tbh, I'm not adept enough (I don't have a programming background) to understand most of what and why the author is doing the things he is doing with the MP Sync mod.

On the topic of multiplayer desyncs:
I no longer own a gpu powerful enough to run wh3 outside of simple end turn slide-show testing (so I can't properly play-test atm) and I tend to get conflicting reports about when and where RDLL causes desyncs. So, here is what I'd like to know about your mp issues:

Do desyncs occur...
1: in both Head-to-Head and Coop games?
2: when players use the same or different races?
3: when you play with the simultaneous turns setting or without?
4: when you play with RDLL and MCT or only RDLL?
5: under specific MCT settings?
6: at the start of the host-player's turn, any player's turn or a AI turn or everyone's turn?
7: when selecting specific dilemma option?

can you check out MP Sync mod and incorporate it into this mod?

Ran into a script error, I didn't dig into it too much, but here's the first part of the error if you're interested @sm0kin:

ERROR - SCRIPT HAS FAILED - event callback was called after receiving event [FactionJoinsConfederation] but the script failed with this error message:
[string "script\campaign\mod\sm0_recruit_defeated.lua"]:1452: attempt to index upvalue 'debug' (a boolean value)

The callstack of the failed script is:

stack traceback:
[string "script\campaign\mod\sm0_recruit_defeated.lua"]:1452: in function 'safeCall'
[string "script\campaign\mod\sm0_recruit_defeated.lua"]:1470: in function 'callback'
[string "script\_lib\lib_core.lua"]:1930: in function <[string "script\_lib\lib_core.lua"]:1930>