Total War: WARHAMMER III

Total War: WARHAMMER III

Chaos dragon for Tzeentch Sorcerers Lords
44 Comments
Arthanor  [author] 29 Aug, 2024 @ 3:58am 
Indeed, the mod has not been updated for a while and CA modified the tables for characters. Do not use this mod. I may update it to add dragon mounts to lords and the cockatrices to heroes (since undivided heroes get manticores), but for now other mods like the "Mount Expansion" mod do the job and I am in no rush to duplicate part of their content.
Lars.exe 22 Aug, 2024 @ 12:03pm 
Crashes
Burninwolf 29 Mar, 2024 @ 4:05pm 
Does this need an update?
GreenSmiet 27 Feb, 2024 @ 9:02am 
Yeah having an alternative to the demon prince or exalted lord of change is nice. Would you include the newly added Chaos lord of Tzeentch too?
Fuyuzuki 22 Feb, 2024 @ 8:10am 
Any chance of this mod being updated for the Chaos Lord of Tzeentch?
Stale Memes 30 Aug, 2023 @ 3:02am 
I'm glad to see that a mod already exists for something I just realized a few days ago. Thank you very much!
Elemental Israelite 8 Aug, 2023 @ 12:36pm 
Would this need a patch to use with SFO?
[HAN]Diederick Kastner 7 Aug, 2023 @ 8:48am 
can you please add it for archaon?
Ciaphas Cain 16 Jun, 2023 @ 7:06am 
Wait, is this just for Tzeentch? or have I read that wrongly?
Arthanor  [author] 28 May, 2023 @ 4:30am 
There is definitely a way to do it. Copying what I have done for lords and applying it to heroes. It's not that complicated. But having heroes on dragons is a bit more power than I am interested in, so it won't be added as part of this mod.
The dragons for lords were added because it is fitting and as an alternative to spending tons of souls to get your hybrid lords when other factions (ex.: HE) get them for free.
Never Lucky 26 May, 2023 @ 2:51pm 
I've been loving this mod, is there any way to make it for chaos sorcerer heroes as well?
Arthanor  [author] 17 May, 2023 @ 6:46am 
Not that I know of. Did something stop working? I've played two campaigns recently without issues.
@Coffeecoffee: Oh! I'll look into that. Thanks for the report
Handsome Devil 11 May, 2023 @ 7:25am 
need update ?
Coffeecoffee 10 Jan, 2023 @ 2:23am 
Nice, thanks!
My only minor issue is that it doesn't have magical attacks, even though all mounts for Tzeentch-marked characters do.
Arthanor  [author] 16 Oct, 2022 @ 3:38am 
@Masterdelta Cheers for confirming it! And actually pushing me to fix the issue. I have no idea how the military_permissions work for the other mounts, since as far as I know they are not listed there.. And I don't like fixes that I don't understand :/ But it's far better to have a working mod!
Masterdelta41 14 Oct, 2022 @ 8:28pm 
The dragon mount for Monogod Tzeentch factions works
Arthanor  [author] 11 Oct, 2022 @ 9:25am 
@Snade Not at all! There are never enough mods as far as I'm concerned. They are what makes the strength of this game: Everyone can tailor it to what they want, especially if they can mod.
Snade 9 Oct, 2022 @ 9:40pm 
@Arthanor fair enough, you mind if i make a submod based on this for the heroes?
Arthanor  [author] 7 Oct, 2022 @ 10:18am 
@Snade It could be done with a very similar mod, but personally, I think dragons are well beyond the reach of heroes, except in rare cases like the HE sun dragons or Henri Le Massif.
@thelosh68 As I said, unit graphics are way above what I can do with this game. Database changes, a tiny bit of scripting and maybe things like icons, but changing looks I can't do.
Snade 3 Oct, 2022 @ 3:20pm 
cool mod, could you add the mount for the chaos sorcerer heroes as well?
thelosh68 22 Sep, 2022 @ 4:04pm 
would be super cool if you could find a way to make them more blueish or add some tzeentch parts on them
Arthanor  [author] 16 Sep, 2022 @ 2:54pm 
@Shavy If only I had moar time!
@elkantro Sorry, graphics are beyond my abilities..
Shavy 15 Sep, 2022 @ 6:49pm 
MOARE, MOOOAR!!!!11!!!!
elkantro 14 Sep, 2022 @ 9:32am 
Eh man can you make the dragon i dont know, more bluesh, cause it differ so much from the roster color XD
toby van kenoby 12 Sep, 2022 @ 6:57am 
weird! but that's tzeentch for ya!
Arthanor  [author] 12 Sep, 2022 @ 12:36am 
@toby van kenoby
Kairos is in a different faction (Tzeentch) than Vilitch (WoC) and so some things don't carry over. For some reason, while he gets the sorcerer lord with all its other mounts, I can't get him the dragon mounts. Still haven't found what the issue is. Regardless of which mount I duplicate, it still doesn't show up for sorcerer lords under him.
toby van kenoby 11 Sep, 2022 @ 12:52am 
@Arthanor What is going on with Kairos?
Arthanor  [author] 8 Sep, 2022 @ 9:57am 
As far as I know it should work with the update. Well, work as much as it has so far. Still trying to figure out what the hell is going on with Kairos.
TheClitCumandr 7 Sep, 2022 @ 12:31pm 
i was so disappointed when I saw I could only put my wizard boy on a hoverboard lmao. bless ur soul for making this. does it work fine with 2.1 when playing as WoC?
Arthanor  [author] 7 Sep, 2022 @ 12:19pm 
Oh, cool! Thanks for asking. Yeah, this is essentially the answer I expected. It's for diversity. For me, that's not a good choice, but I respect the philosophy. All the more since they gave us the tools to tune it to what we want as well. And if they want to make my mod useless down the line, I don't mind! :D
Masterdelta41 6 Sep, 2022 @ 6:42pm 
I asked CA when they where doing an AMA and this was their response

Luke: So the marked Lords of Chaos use different mount options from the Undivided ones to give them a bit more flavourful and thematic options that fit their God alignment. You get access to different skills when dedicating them to a single chaos god, so being able to re-spec your skill tree is quite useful down the line. But this is still useful feedback, I'll make sure it's passed along 🙂
Arthanor  [author] 6 Sep, 2022 @ 9:23am 
Cheers! It's not impossible that they are planning themed dragons (manticores I'd be surprised though) for different lords for when they release the missing ones, like Tzeentch and nurgle lords. Since that DLC will be smaller (there's only 2 lords, 1 sorcerer lord, 2 exalted champions, 1 sorcerer left to add, since Khorne doesn't have sorcerers), they might want more cool options for them.

But my main guess is just their weird "faction variance" idea, like chaos warriors of Tzeentch not wanting to pick a 2H axe, even though they were using one just before getting the mark. That'll be something I'll look into eventually too, if nobody beats me to it. Unfortunately, I can't do graphics for this game..
steelmidnight 6 Sep, 2022 @ 6:15am 
Yeah I dont know what the hell CA is thinking. Manticores and Chaos Dragons should be readily available to ALL Chaos Lords, regardless of marks. Yes, the one we have in game now is the Tzeentch model for them, but they are on the options list in the rules for Chaos Lords of ANY mark.

Do you think they might be planning "Themed" ones? That wouldnt explain the manticores though. Is it because Chaos Dragons are part of the first DLC, and mono-factions have the marked lords now? I really dont understand, and this really bugs me. Mainly because I cant make a FULLY dedicated WoC faction if I want these mounts (and who wouldnt! They are two of my favorite in the game!)

I hope more people speak up so they address this. I posted about it on Discord a week or so ago, but unless multiple people do so, they may not bother with it.

In the meantime, thanks for this. At least YOU get it!
Arthanor  [author] 5 Sep, 2022 @ 1:38am 
@crcr! Thanks!
As far as I can tell, it should be quite possible to have Archaon on a dragon. I'm surprised there isn't one already actually.
He was my first choice for IE, but I decided to run a Vilitch campaign while waiting for the confederation patch for him. I'll look into it when he can really assemble the forces of Chaos! Vassals just don't cut it for me, beyond Norsca.
@Masterdelta41 Added a warning for the Kairos campaign. Sorry for the confusion. I just put out and update which I think will fix it. Let me know!
lwhのsama 4 Sep, 2022 @ 8:05pm 
great mod :steamthumbsup:and can we creat a chaos dragon for archaon?
Arthanor  [author] 4 Sep, 2022 @ 2:30am 
Weird. I assume you mean Villitch as your character? That's who I am playing as well. I sent you a friend invite, I think through that you might be able to send me a save.
In the meantime, I am continuing my campaign as well, hoping to test it "normally".
Masterdelta41 4 Sep, 2022 @ 12:38am 
So yeah I tested it again with no mods but this one but I am still suffering from the same issue, they work in custom, and I can see the skill point and it automatically unlocks. But the mount still isn't there for both Tzeentch and Metal Casters. I am doing this with the Tzeentch monogod faction if that helps.

The only thing I can think of that is messing this up is the dilemma to becoming a daemon prince is somehow breaking the chaos dragon mount. Since you tested it with a lower leveled lord that is the only thing I can think of. If you would like my save files I would gladly offer them to you if they would help
Arthanor  [author] 3 Sep, 2022 @ 4:31am 
@Masterdelta41 Damn! It half works then I guess. I tried it by lowering the level required to that of my sorcerer and it seems to work. There was an issue with the text though, as no text showed up anywhere. This update should fix it.
@steelmidnight Yeah, I think CA has some misguided idea of "faction diversity" where one faction having daemon princes means they should not have dragons because that way they're "different". Same with the chaos warriors forgetting how to use great weapons if you give them the mark of Tzeentch, or not being able to use two axes unless they are marked by Khorne. Waiting for mods to fix a lot of things, or will do it myself eventually, but I am a bit pressed for time right now.
Masterdelta41 31 Aug, 2022 @ 10:45pm 
So I got a lord to level 23 and the mount level point does work but the mount itself isnt equippable
steelmidnight 31 Aug, 2022 @ 9:45pm 
Thanks for this. I hope someone who knows how to reskin eventually does CA's job for them, and makes "themed" dragons and Manticore mounts for the marked characters.
steelmidnight 31 Aug, 2022 @ 9:37pm 
None of the marked heros/Lords have Manticores OR Chaos dragons. Some dont even have their godtouched mounts.

Why does it feel half-assed and rushed? Its as if whomever they assigned to do Chaos doesnt understand the faction, hates them and just wanted to hurry up and get them done. Its BS.

I agree PAW, ALL the Marked generic Lords and Heroes should have Manticores, Chaos Dragons themed to their respective gods, and their god-touched mounts. We need to speak up on discord/twitter and raise awareness that this was unnacceptable.
Pawulon 31 Aug, 2022 @ 10:41am 
lmao, tzeentch lords don't have access do dragon? This DLC is worse than i thought
Masterdelta41 31 Aug, 2022 @ 8:16am 
Thank you so much, I have been wanting a mod like this since the release of the DLC.