Thanks for all your work on the mod over the years.

not needed actually since the new update actually fixes this issue to be exactly like the throughput techs in victoria 2

needs rework for 4.0 because this mod hasnt been updated for new pop/job numbers. (capital building basically broken)

Are we getting an update?

I think creating a new .txt file with just the base scripting for the buildings copy pasted with changed modifiers should overwrite the building without affecting compatibility

Sure, just remind me tmr by commenting on my profile

would you be able to make a mod that just removes the tech?

Alright, I'll go download the mod and check it, thanks!

The mod I'm thinking of is Carrying Capacity. It adds a planetary deposit that claims to multiplicatively modify pop growth, and it seems to be working alongside other mods. Some of the screen shots and description on the mod page are out of date, and I have an ingame screen shot but I don't know how to post screenshots here.

I am not sure about the multiplicative modifiers as Stellaris modding is very poorly documented compared to say HOI4, so unless you could provide the mods you mentioned, I will be able to reverse engineer it because as of right now I cannot think of any multiplicative modifiers that gives a multiplicative effect compared to a simple percentage increase in the base game, thus nothing to use as reference for reverse engineering.

However, I do believe it is possible with some work around like adding to the base production and cost, but that will involve changing the production of EVERY SINGLE individual job, it will also not be compatible with any mods unless I make a patch for it, it'll also be a nightmare to make and update for a single dev like me, so unfortunately no, I am not able to do it.

So does Stellaris modding allow for multiplicative modifiers? If you could do something like "output x 1.10" and "upkeep x 1.10" that would keep the ratios the same no matter what other modifiers you have. I seem to recall some mods using multiplicative modifers for pop growth/slowdown. I agree that the vanilla techs seem broken as they are.

No worries, it still worked regardless.

Apparently it didn't go through on my end and I've only realised this after I started playing Stellaris again today so yea sorry bout that.

Have you updated it? Curious, steam says it hasnt.

Alright, will update it this weekend, I did not realise that it was outdated, so thanks for telling me!

I like this mod. I would appreciate it if you updated it to 3.6. That update changed the number of roboticists/replicators capitals provide

I know this is a month late but Wilmfe you are either asking for every modifier in the game to be changed or are not understanding the basic problem behind the tech. No it isn't getting the same output with less pops, the jobs do not decrease. No this isn't more ore for more steel, because it's still not an equivalent exchange.

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Indeed. So you can get the same amount of work done with fewer people. Still requires the same input though.

you can also think of the current buffs as making it more resource efficient or new methods

I like the idea though of your upkeep going up with your output. That to make more steel you need more ore.

This will still be terrible as +10% upkeep is still way more impactful than +10% production, +10% upkeep could simply double the upkeep if you had a -90% so no, it is either remove the upkeep or figure out a way to make the +10% upkeep and production be multiplicative with everything else

While you are right in your observation I kind of feel the balance fix should be the reverse. That the even ups and downs remain and everything else is brought down to match.

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It was meant to be similar to the throughput techs in Victoria II where you produce more goods but have a proportionately higher upkeep, keeping the efficiency the same, for example if 1 mineral produces 2 alloys, all this tech would do is make it 1.2 mineral into 2.4 alloys, keeping the ratio the same.

However, Paradox failed basic math and did not realise that they need the +10% to be multiplicative with other bonuses, if it just simply adds on to the other bonuses, as I explained it is simply terrible.

neat, I never really understood why this research was a thing in the first place tbh.