Crusader Kings III

Crusader Kings III

Oathbreaker
26 Comments
isma 7 Nov, 2024 @ 10:13am 
could you update please?
Ranger 21 Aug, 2023 @ 7:28am 
Great mod! Any chance you could update it?
ItsFinnsta 20 Nov, 2022 @ 10:16am 
insane mod bro. cured my cancer, got back my wife and seen my kids again! All thanks to this mod!!
Nex 1 Nov, 2022 @ 5:55pm 
Yeah I didnt read properly sorry
PHILEGS  [author] 1 Nov, 2022 @ 12:07pm 
@juliendesprairies Les négatifs viennent de la rupture du serment, pas de sa prise. Si vous rompez un serment que vous avez fait devant vos dieux, cela a évidemment un effet négatif sur votre piété. Quant au prestige, cela souffre évidemment aussi parce que tout le monde vous considère comme indigne de confiance.
PHILEGS  [author] 1 Nov, 2022 @ 12:05pm 
@Nex You only recieve the trait if you decline a defensive call to arms.
Nex 1 Nov, 2022 @ 10:32am 
Imagine getting a bad trait because your stupid 3k troop ally declared war against an empire for the third time in a row
juliendesprairies 1 Nov, 2022 @ 9:19am 
si je peux comprendre que faire un serment peut avoir un impact négatif sur la diplomatie, je ne comprend pas pourquoi le prestige et la piété souffre d'un malus...
ce devrait être plutôt le contraire non?
Jack 31 Oct, 2022 @ 4:09am 
Have a nice day and cant wait for your new mods
Jack 31 Oct, 2022 @ 4:08am 
But maybe it's hard coded I never tried to mod this field. An other idea I had it's easier and maybe everyone wants it. Just make the struggle call to war with money avalaible for all culture.
Jack 31 Oct, 2022 @ 4:06am 
Tkanks for the answer. In my ideas there was an other fix I dont know if it's possible I have to understand. Levies should be avalaible only at war and only for main countries in the war. So in this way men at arms will be more important, in alliances you should check only men at arms value and knight and more important economy is safe. And it's also more historical accurate I guess
PHILEGS  [author] 29 Oct, 2022 @ 3:00am 
Next update will adjust the penalties and as suggested by @Máximo Anderios (MEXICAN) there will be a decision to “Repent for breaking your Oath” which will get rid of the “Oathbreaker” Trait and replace it with the “Former Oathbreaker” Trait.

Adjustments:
- No more penalties on stewardship
- Diplomacy penalty from -2 to -3
- Close relative opinion from -20 to -10
- Vassal opinion from -5 to -3
- Liege opinion from -5 to -10
- House opinion from -15 to -10
- Re-added attraction penalty -15

@Jack yes, that most certainly is a big problem with the alliance system, though that is not what this mod is supposed to fix.
Some people may not want this addition in the mod, what I could do is make a secondary mod that adjusts what people get when joining wars and what it costs to call someone to arms.
Taipan 29 Oct, 2022 @ 1:42am 
Why would the close family or vassals be mad on you because you refused to go in some useless war? :P Wasting the realm resources? Piety loss for not fighting a normal war??? Diplomacy, I understand that, the others, definitely not RP friendly.
SDNW 29 Oct, 2022 @ 1:38am 
i think dip should go down by like 6 and it should be a negative 70 debuff on opinion, prestige should be 2.25 don't question me why
Not french neither roman 29 Oct, 2022 @ 1:11am 
I think it shouldn't affect on skills, well because oathbreaking don't make you weak, but makes people to hate you. And the opinion penalty is very low.
And a option to make it up to the allie would be good, like giving money or raising opinion to change "Oathbreaker" to "Formerly oathbreaker" (like the excommunication system)
Jack 28 Oct, 2022 @ 11:29pm 
mod is ok and it 's more or less an other of my ideas for my pack. But I think you miss the most important bug of allies system. Problem is war is expensive and AI allies always destroy their economy for your goals.
So maybe more then prestige allies calling should cost gold
PHILEGS  [author] 27 Oct, 2022 @ 6:15am 
The penalties have been adjusted. :er_wave:
Freakyman 27 Oct, 2022 @ 1:35am 
i think a renown penalty would also be good, as it would show a real consequence.

Suggested Penalties
-2 Diplomacy
-2 Stewardship
+2 Intrigue
-5% Piety
-1 Prestige
-0.5 Renown
Remove Stress Related Punishments
Remove Attraction Related Punishments
Dynasty Opinion - 15
House Opinion - 5
Liege Opinion - 10
Vassal Opinion - 5

and maybe half the penalties if Deceitful / Sadistic and double if Just / Brave.

This is merely a suggestion and not an actual request
Riaman 27 Oct, 2022 @ 12:16am 
callous person wouldnt care about stress though, may be a onetime stress based on personality rather than a permanent modifier.
PHILEGS  [author] 26 Oct, 2022 @ 11:46pm 
I may reduce the penalties a bit.
chebonaparte 26 Oct, 2022 @ 9:45pm 
seem a bit too harsh penalties
Rosto Branco90 26 Oct, 2022 @ 5:16pm 
jaime lannister experience
PHILEGS  [author] 26 Oct, 2022 @ 12:04pm 
Yeah makes sense, thanks! I'll change it with the nickname addition.
Riaman 26 Oct, 2022 @ 11:26am 
should be for defensive wars only, no way so some idiot should be able to use alliance to make someone a war hound.
PHILEGS  [author] 26 Oct, 2022 @ 10:40am 
Yes there is, I'll add it next chance I get :D Thanks for the suggestion!
SplittinHeads 26 Oct, 2022 @ 10:30am 
Is there a chance at a nickname happening?