Thank you for your expression of appreciation, Mod God Prominence!

Thanks for the feedback and strategy, 496 Crows! I haven't ruled out further additions to Jade Helix.

Just wanted to share a little strategy I came up with to farm the entire grid in one fight, but I won't go into copious amounts of detail because I think it's fun to come up with a tactic yourself:

Look for the multiplying worms. Try the sharpshooter's multishot ability together with that beautiful "Function: Load" augment from the Empirio Armani mod in the same mod pack as this one ;)

Multiply and Survive. Each duplicate can drop a piece of jade to unlock a square on the helix. Got around 80 in one room and you can easily get more.

I'm disappointed in the author for not adding a final Jade Helix fight with some sicc loot reward or some narrative after completely unlocking the Helix, though.

Some of the rewards from the Helix are absolutely insane; others are worse than a mithril chunk. Can recommend starting with the top left corner room

Seeing the Jade Solders and the Jade passive all the Jade enemies get for some reason makes me really want a Jade Warrior class in this game. I'm assuming that's not gonna happen considering the whole gimmick with the jade is the difficulty scaling, but I think the idea sounds cool.

Thank you for making the Jade Helix's marker on the map green and not yellow! I can always tell where it is now, and it reminds me to keep going back to it. It also just looks cool.

Ok thanks!

Yes. It hides all of my custom classes when placed below them in the mod load order.

does it apply to all your custom classes mod?

One more thing, Welk. I've created this mod in case you want to play the adventures in my class mods without actually having the classes visible/activated.

Ok thanks!

Welk, I've added a random resource drop to Heartwood. Choose any reward path other than the library. The way it works is that you have an equal chance to get whistle stone, shock parts, chunk of laser, ironice, or nothing. So a 20% chance for each.

I've also increased the drop chance for crafting materials as loot for winning a fight in the Jade Helix, but the chance remains fairly low.

Okay thank you for the reply! Just take your time.

I’m currently working on a new class mod with an adventure location built in. I don’t know if I’ll make more after that or not. This game certainly isn’t lacking class variety, even without mods, but it’s a lot of fun to make them. I know they’re not for everyone though.

I think Whistlestone can drop as a reward in Jade Helix already, but I could be wrong.

But yeah. I’m looking at adding those crafting resources to some of my repeatable non-class mods. I haven’t decided on the exact implementation or drop chance just yet though. I should be able to update some of the mods with any changes I make this evening or into the weekend.

In the meantime, if you haven’t cleared all of Shallow Graves, you may want to do that. There’s a fair amount of rare resources available in the later game
tombs.

And one last thing not trying to be rude but are you still planning to create adventure mods with custom classes or no custom classes since it will bloat the game? So you're planning to add Ironice, chunk of laser and whistle stone in Heartwood, Mummy Dust and Jade Helix?(Also pls include whistle stone drop in Jade Helis)?That is a quality of life indeed for players who hate custom class mods.

That’s fair! I’m also considering adding some to Heartwood, specifically in the final zones that aren’t as tempting as the library. Perhaps a slight chance in Mummy Dust as well.

Ok thank you for this! Sad to say But Port Kapul is outdated anymore the information bug still exists and the infamous unreachable harp bow is still not yet addressed as of today and its not lore friendly since it had weird Elona references it ruins my immersion.Looking forward for the increased drop rate of Ironice and chunk of laser in this mod in order to be worth sacrificing. Some players dont like mods with custom modded classes and weird references some prefer the base game only.

Welk, I am not willing to remove their requirement but I will change the drop rate for them in this mod later today or this evening. I recommend playing Port Kapul’s arena. It’s a decent source of both of them.

Can you atleast remove the requirements for Ironice and Chunks of Laser since they are still very rare items for those who only play base game and no custom class mods?(i dont want to use devmode)It really hurts and a bit harsh to part it.Unless i can farm Ironice and Chunks of Laser as loot rewards from this Jade Helix dungeon mod or Where can i farm Ironice and Chunks of Laser from your mod without modded classes? (not like Betwixt and Bloodstone since they have modded classes).Thank you.

The Domino status effect makes it so that whenever any creature with Domino dies in battle, all other creatures with Domino will die too. Typically.

I found a domino trigger and can't figure out what it does.

A fair question. I would say you could consider leveling in other areas and returning, along with exploiting the weaknesses of the Jade Helix monsters (itchy, dispel, stun) to squeeze out a few more wins. At higher Helix levels, the enemies are more likely to drop keystones. I suppose it is somewhat possible to paint yourself into a corner, but the spawn system is random, so you can quick save and load as needed.

So I'm not there yet, but what happens if the Helix level gets so high you can't beat it but you haven't unlocked the NPC to lower it yet?

Thank you so much for your kind words. I appreciate the time and thought you put into crafting this message for me. And thank you for playing my mods! Please do let me know if you find any further issues.

It's hard to say what's my favorite thing so far, but of particular note class-wise would be Dancer (mechanically, though not as fun as Mesmer).

Book of Thieves was one heck of a content piece, with the new kid even earning a spot on my seasoned shore team. The Sea Below was absolutely *ruthless*, and the reward for me was not the items won but the weak strategies I was forced to examine and refine.

All of your mods feel more or less native to the game, and none of them feel like a "small" addition. Hundreds of hours of work (likely more!) are on full display here, and I'm grateful for the opportunity to freely enjoy the fruit of your labor - from the journal entries and NPC dialogue to the weapon balancing and class variety, everything has a level of polish you don't usually see in the modding community. What few bugs there appear to be are either insignificant or immediately addressed by you.

Thank you for the journey, Prominence.

This works! I have a decent-length save file (the timer stopped counting at 145h but I know it's definitely over that!) and can't risk losing it, even with backups in place. The console command works fine.

That said, I absolutely LOVE the Jade Helix idea, execution, and the starting difficulty . Can't wait to see how things ramp up - you have more than doubled the length of this game for me. Outstanding work, Prominence! Really good stuff. (continued above for character limits).

Aggressively Violet, there's always the console command to go to the zone. Open the console with shift ~, type "go z_jh_main" (no quotation marks), then press enter. A few decoration items in the zone will look weird if you enter this way, but the only other alternative I know of would involve save editing... which is kind of a nightmare.

If you want to try save editing, BACK UP YOUR SAVES. You can find them in AppData > Roaming > BoatTactics > Saves. Access your save's folder. You'll need a zip opener. Open the saveData.txt file. Then use CTRL+F to find z_jh_main, the main Jade Helix location. Then remove its discoverable_fReq line. I'm not very experienced in save editing, so I can't offer too much in the way of specifics. But it could be worth a shot. Please back up your saves first.

Prominence, thanks for the reply! I don't remember when I installed the mod, but I know for sure it was at least several hours of gameplay before I attempted to access the content (I was busy with Book of Thieves, which I have another question about and I'll post in that thread ).

Unsubscribing causes a crash to desktop, and resubscribing replicates the issue I described below. Do you have any other ideas?

Thanks. I'm adding some redundancies to the forget triggers so that those zones should be correctly refreshed. Again, eh, thank you for your help with fixing this mod. I appreciate it!

nw4 I remember, and there is another map, maybe sw2?

Do you mean that some of the maps don't seem to be properly resetting and are keeping items in them on repeat encounters?

The keystones can be sold for a pretty generous amount.

The max jadevar is 200. I would use setGlobalVar jh_jadevar 200

Another bug report: some maps in helix do not erase items on land.
And may I suggest adding a way to exchange keystone with some other items after finish helix grid?
PS: I am looking for a way to set jadevar to correct max value, my current jadevar is approximately 2 times of its max value, for I forget main area two times and insert a lot keystones.

Aggressively Violet, I'm betting it's a glitch with the formula requirement. I've removed the combat fame requirement. You may have to load a save from before you downloaded the mod, but it should work now. Please let me know if it doesn't.

Hi Prominence - absolutely loving your mods. Just downloaded Jade Helix and though the icon appears on the world map, nothing appears in the ocean. In other words, the icon and tool tip appear using the map key, but not when my ship sails into the spot. I can tell it's there because I hit "empty air" and can move around the spot it's supposed to be, but nothing happens.

I do have 7309 combat fame, so I that shouldn't be it. For reference, I have quite a few mods, most of which are yours:

Head Plus, the Dancers of Port Du Vent, Super Gusts, Shallow Graves, Royal Classes, Bloodstone, Nightingale, Book of Thieves, Mummy Dust, Class Academy, The Sea Below (excellent work!), and Jade Helix, in that order from top to bottom.

Looking forward to enjoying this one, especially repeatable engagements with no wait time!

Laser ones are all working

Actually, I think I've spotted the issue and why I wasn't able to replicate it. Posting an update now. You'll have to do that forget z_jh_main console command again, but it should work this time... if I'm correct.

Let me know if the laser ones aren't working. I can give you the console commands for those, though you might be able to discern their formatting on your own at this point.

Weapon Skills:
[*] skill_Aim_bonus
[*] skill_Bow_bonus
[*] skill_Fist_bonus
[*] skill_Flail_bonus
[*] skill_Axe_bonus
[*] skill_Dagger_bonus
[*] skill_Sword_bonus
[*] skill_Hammer_bonus
[*] skill_Shield_bonus
[*] skill_Spear_bonus


Again, remember to use the refreshStatModifiers console command as well, otherwise the changes won't show up right away.

Thank you for checking. I did some more testing, and even if Mage Hunter used to use a different method for increasing its elemental skills, that shouldn't be causing a problem here. I think, sadly, that our best bet is to give you some more console commands to bypass this issue and sort of "fake it." I'm sorry that I can't replicate the problems that you're experiencing with this mod.

So for those console commands, you'll want to open the console (shift ~) and type the following, then press enter:

modGlobalVar skill_Wind_bonus 1



Then, you'll want to use another console command immediately afterward:

refreshStatModifiers



Do this for each one that you unlock, changing the skill_Wind_bonus to each relevant stat.

Elemental Skills (didn't include ruin and wind here, because wind is up above and you have gotten ruin to work):
[*] skill_Life_bonus
[*] skill_Ice_bonus
[*] skill_Fire_bonus
[*] skill_Elec_bonus

Confirmed, all of them, including ruin

All of them, including ruin, I think

I'm still looking into this, eh1256890. Did you complete the various seeker subquests in Mage Hunter to increase elemental skills?

modlist:
https://pastebin.com/qDttym2R

Image here
https://imgur.com/a/Wv1m7qc

Nope, still don't work, when I put an ironice into Wind socket, nothing happens. Only Ruin socket works.

I would do this from the overworld. Open the console with shift ~. Then type this without the colon: forget z_jh_main

Then press enter. That should work, but you’ll have to find more keystones. You can also add them with build mode. Open the console again, type b, press enter. Jade Keystones are in the mechanisms tab. The tools tab is where you’ll find ironice.

OK, how to recreate the z_jh_main zone?

...I'm wondering if it's an issue with another mod setting the same variable that Jade Helix modifies to make its bonuses take effect. Were you using any other mods that increased skills across the entire crew?

eh1256890, I'm looking into it now and it all seems to be working. Can you describe the issue you're experiencing in more detail?

Oof. I’ll look into it, but it’s going to be at least 12 hours before I can make any changes. For now, reload your save and hold off on socketing ironice into those nodes. You might end up needing to forget the z_jh_main zone.

The journal entry will be an easy fix.

Bug report: Ironice Slots(Skill upgrade) only work on ruin skill.
Biting Bracelet don't have a journal entry.