I load the 2 Player Duel (standard) -> I include the Against the Shadow option (no house rules). The game chat immediately prompts that each of the 4 promo cards is "in play". I did not choose a color at this point. I place the 2 FP promo cards face-up on top of the FP deck (vertical stack). After this I place the 2 SP promo cards face-up on top of the SP deck. For these two actions there is no prompt in the game chat. After this I click the button "Deal cards and start the game". Once I hit confirm I get immediately prompted "Please choose how you wish to use your Promo cards before starting the game!" and it can only be resolved by placing the promo cards into the eliminated area or in the cycle pile. (Both action prompt that the cards are no longer in play).

@Zephyr and @Grim Reaper It could be that you're pressing the button too fast after placing the last promo into your deck. I've tried reproducing the issue several times but it seems work just fine for me. If it happens again, please tell me what you see in the game-chat regarding the promos.

I am struggling with the same issue as @Grim Rapper before. I am playing the Duel Scenario with Against the Shadow enabled. I want to play with the Promo cards. When I add them to the decks and the press "deal cards and start game" button I still get the warning "please choose how you wish to use your promo card". Putting them instead into the Eliminate pile works. Am I doing something wrong? What exactly is the right step to add the Promo cards to the game?

Hey @Lathelus, it should do this automatically of the battleground is dragged from the opposing scoring area.
e.g. The Free Peoples win Lorien so it gets moved to the FP scoring area. Later on the Shadow reactivates it draggin it from the scoring area back to the table. The 2 shields should be ignored.

If it fails you can simply add 2 attack tokens to the battleground

Hi, amazing mod, got hooked recently to it. How can I reactivate a stronghold, so that the defense value of the card is not counted?

When playing Against the Shadow on easy, the Shadow bots draw 1 fewer card than what they are supposed to draw in that scenario. So in Trilogy they draw 3 cards instead of 4. That is intended.
As for the starting player token being stuck, that will be fixed in the next update. Usually you can just flip the token and it becomes unstuck, or through the menu like you said.

In Against the Shadow mode. Why does the shadow also get 3 cards when drawing cards? This is not a rule. The rule is shadow 4, free people 3. Please be aware that ALL players get 3 cards. This is a mistake.

@Grim Rapper. There are cards above your draw cycle that are promo cards, you have to put them in deck or eliminate them. Some people prefer to play vanilla without them. I have them in my game always, because i like more cards ;)

I am trying to start a 2-4 trilogy mode. I am pressing on the "deal cards and start game button," and I am keep getting a message telling me "please choose how you wish to use your promo card" is this a bug? or am i missing something?

Ok thanks. Another thing, in the against the shadow version for 5-6 players. The starting player token is glued to the overview card. I cannot seem to separate them. Only though the menu (lock)

Cards in hand are shown as black to differentiate between face-up and face-down cards. (sometimes useful)
If your drawdeck is black then you might have to re-download the mod

Hi, in against the shadoiw mode, why are all decks black? I am just new to this simulator. So i am eager to learn.

@zespri, it isn't in the mod no but I will add that in a future update. For now:
The Old Forest houserule removes the shield on the Old Forest Path.
The Fellbeast houserule changes the Fellbeast to allow the wielding Nazgul to move to any battleground(instead of being limited to Mordor battlegrounds)

Is it explained anywhere what the house rules are?

Thanks, Annatar!!! : ) You are the best!

@Mikail The Fire and Swords expansion is already in it ^^
Under the Trilogy tab you can find the Expanded (3v3) Trilogy, under the Duel tab is the Epic Duel mode. And under other scenarios you can find all of the War of the North scenarios

any chance you will add the fire and sword expansion into the script?

Hey @Mushmurok, the solo expansion is included :) When you have your scenario selected, just toggle the "Excluded: Against the Shadow" button to include it. Click it again to raise the difficulty.

Sorry for the late reply @mcintma, but Im still looking into it. It's odd as I cant recreate the issue so Im not sure what exactly is wrong. If it happens again, could you tell me in a bit more detail what happened (like the sequence of actions that you took before it happened)

Thanks for the game! : ) Will you add the solo expansion ?

Hi Annatar - problem continues, did not load from a save but fresh. it's weird. Can't move forward in Trilogy mode 2-6 player no matter what I do with the promo cards (delete them, put them in decks) I get the same error.

Thanks Annatar will try this!

Hey @mcintma , yes that could happen if you performed an Undo, or if you loaded from save file during the promo selection process. TTS is a bit buggy when it comes to reloads. Despite the cause, you can usually fix it by dragging the promos back in the playing area and after waiting like 2 seconds you drag them out again. Hope that helps!

Hi! I put the promo cards in the decks manually, but when I try to Deal the cards & confirm I still get the 'Please choose how you wish to use your promo cards' error and can't play. Something I'm doing wrong or a bug? Using Trilogy 2-4 or 2-6 same problem. Thanks :)

Thanks for your quick reply! I will test the cross-roads again in a new game and let you know if it is still a problem.
I didn't saw the in-game text until you pointed it out. Thanks for that. If it is possible to automate that, that would be great.
And yes, the drawing upside down is for Against the Shadow.
I also realize the Almanac is always a good source for Against the Shadow because there are cards with the same name in the bot deck. But I guess that's just is what it is. :)

Hey @Bernaar, to answer your points:
- The Cross-Roads used to be bugged some time ago, but it should be fine now. I tested it and had no issues.
- Likewise, with the double army thing it should work as intended. Are you running an old version perhaps?
- The Almanac is included in the Rules bag
- Any edge cases for the auto-drawing of cards should be covered by in-game messages. Like in your examples a message should pop up instructing you to cycle cards, or to reshuffle the draw deck and draw X extra cards.
- I will have a look at the possibility of drawing shadow cards face down (for Against the Shadow I assume) Thanks!

Finally it would be nice if SPs cards are drawn face down.

An issue with the automatic round advancement button is that if there are example only 2 cards left in the draw deck, it only deals out 2 cards instead of the full amount.

I noticed you implemented an auto-deal option for setup, thank you, very nice! One thing to note is that during the setup of the SP in the against the shadow expansion (playing against the bot), the SP should cycle 2 of the 7 cards into the cycle pile (see setup rules). Not a big deal to do it myself of course, but I thought I would mention it anyway in case you missed it.

I suggestion would be to add a link in the mod to the comprehensive fan made WotR: TCG Almanac:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1SRbrxPdy88O1-4kOmI3hmY24zOcmY3QWJz0Lji7qmpA/edit?tab=t.0#heading=h.kyfndyw60wb9

@Legend, I tried your suggestion before posting the bug to no avail. Maybe it is just my bugged save but it can't hurt to check out. Btw, just as a reminder the previous mentioned bug is also still in: false error warning when you play a second version of the same card twice (so not the exact same item or character card which isn't allowed ofcourse). For example when you play a second version of Mordor Orcs.

@Bernaar, thanks for letting us know! We will double check if there is a setting wrong.
It might be a one time bug, when it isn’t correctly registering. Placing the card on the play table and back in the scoring area might solve that. But we’m have a look 👍🏼

It looks like I found a bug: the path 7 card "The Cross-Roads" doesn't score a point when I place it in the scoring area.

@Bernaar
They are by the community yes and they van help to balance the game. The Old Forest house rule more so than the Fell Beast one. The consensus is that The Old Forest is a really weak card compared to the other 2 options on path 2 (From Shadow's perspective). When it was designed it was thought that forsakes would be a lot stronger, but it turns out that is not the case. So the houserule removes the path defense to make it bit more forgiving.

In this mod's description is a link to the WotR discord, you can find more strategies and all in there ^^ As well as teammates to play with

Thanks for your answers! Looking forward to the next update.

Anaother question: there are two house rule options. Where do they come from? Are they made up by you or is this a community consensus balance fix?

@Bernaar to answer your questions,

1: I am planning on adding some functionality like drawing cards etc. yes but some aspects cannot be automated like scoring BG's and paths (because the order of scoring is decided by the player)
2: I am considering it, but it will be a bit further into the future as it will be a lot work. So maybe.
3: The cards layed out in front are the Promo's. You can choose whether to add it to your deck or not.
4: The open cycle is for cards that were openly cycled and are thus public knowledge. Like cycling Bilbo to draw two cards. Is it optional though, some players prefer to play this way whilst others do not.

As for the bugs mentioned by you and @SavaKHV, they will be fixed in the next update :)

there is a small bug, when the layout for 3 players. Saruman gets an Against the Shadow deck.

I belief there is a false error warning when you play a second version of the same card twice (so not the exact same item or character cars which isn't allowed ofcourse). For example when you play a second version of Mordor Orcs.

4. Why is there an distinct open cycle and normal cycle area?

Fantastic mod, thanks so much. Few questions:
1. Are you planning on scripting it even more? Right now we have to do the drawing of cards/paths/battegrounds ourselfes right?
2. Are you planning on scripting the bot behavior of Against the Shadow expansion?
3. Why does each player have a card in front of their deck instead of in their deck at the start of the game (probably a noob question)?

New update coming soon, including:

- Added a setup screen where you can choose all available scenarios, including turning house rules on/off. The game will now put down all necessary components for you in the right place.

- Automated Mirror of Galadriel. When the mirror is in play, you automatically see which card is on top of your draw deck.

- Visual updates to the map, player mats and side table for a better overview.

- The score shown on the right side of your screen now also shows in brackets what the current score would be if the current Battlegrounds and Paths were included.

- Actions are now tracked in the chat, such as which cards are drawn and which cards are played.

Hey @greenpiece,
I am not sure if any cards with those numbers exist, but I can confirm that both Against the Shadow decks have 30 cards, all belonging to the expansion.
The missing cards might be any duplicate armies like Mordor orcs, and White-hand Orcs.

@Legend thank you for you amazing work!

Can you please check if all the cards from the expansion are present in the mod? There 60 cards for the Shadow deck in the expansion as per the rulebook but I cannot find the following ones:
* S64
* S74
* S94
* S95
* S96
* S97

Other 54 cards are present.

The new mod is looking and working amazing! Thank you for the update!

Enjoy the lastest update with tons of visual and scripted improvements to completely immerse yourself in the world of the War of the Ring - The Card Game.

Don't forget to turn on the included shire music to accompany you on the epic battles that await you! Looking for a certain game mode or expansion? We got you! Everything you need is right here, ready to play in a few mouse clicks.

what is the image on the table? I love it!

@Nut https://discord.gg/nvWgQg3C2s

daddywil, i tried to join you discord server through the invite links you'd spread aroud but they're all invalid

Ok it's not a big deal. The only issue I'm having is that no matter how many times I reshuffle a deck, the same cards come out. Once I reshuffle the randomizer in the middle of the table, they are different. I've just never had that happen in any other card games on TTS

@Misery I'm not aware of the card that keeps track of the turn order, I just the custom counter I made in the mod!