thank you very much. also yeah having a hero troll army as throgg would be sick!

Amazing work! Thanks so much for this!

Would it be possible for you to make a Hero based on this Troll Lord?

Probably a dumb question but will they be available for WoC?

@TheGunstringer:
There is indeed something weird going on with the LODs now. I will look into them.

Something is incredibly wrong. When I zoom in the trolls head is fine. But when I zoom out there is just this giant shifting mass for a head. Are you able to fix that? Also it's only when I make the troll fire or frost, the normal one is fine.

Please! Could you make depth guard lords for vampire coast?

As others have already mentioned, I'm experiencing polygonal graphical glitches with the head of one of the ice troll lords too. It only happens when I zoom out, and looks normal when I zoom in.

I don't know if this is relevant information, but just now as I'm playing, the problem went away temporarily after returning to the campaign map from a battle and then returned after winning an autoresolve with a different army.

@Redbaron998:
Those are great ideas. They can be "dedication" skills similar to High Elf pantheon to be exclusive to each others to prevent power-creeping Throgg out.
Thank you!

I liked the ideas you and Guv were tossing around. Here is some possibilities I thought up. The goal I believe is to accentuate the trolls lord ability to run troll armies without making Throgg seem underpowered or redundant. Here is an idea for a skill line:

One of us "Trolls are often bullied by other races, but when lead by one of their own they are more likely to stick to the task at hand" +10 leadership for trolls

Monster mash "The trolls innate appreciation for the savagery of thier kin only stokes thier fighting ability +5 MA, +5 MD for trolls.

Trolltide "The massed charge of a horde of trolls is quite difficult to turn back" give Ogre charge to all trolls.

Civilisations ruin "The age of beasts is nigh and the civilized world is at its end" gives frenzy to all trolls.

Don't know if you would like these ideas or not but maybe they would work out. Tha KS again for the mod. The models look great!

@Kaihu:
It sounded like a model/animation mismatch. I need to test this some more.

(the glitch only showed up at medium and low LOD, but unlike the invisibility, it happened even if the troll wasn't highlighted).

@medusa0: In order to test I deleted and redownloaded the mod and then loaded my Wintertooth save, but I think something is wrong. The troll whose head used to be invisible now has a huge texture glitch where his head is a mass of shifting polygonal shapes twice the height of his body, like an eldritch abomination, lol. It might be because the new version of the mod is incompatible with my save from the old version, but it makes it harder to test because I'd need to start a new game and level a troll to lvl 12 to convert it to an Ice Troll before I could tell.

Great mod. Would love to see some more troll skills for them so to better live out trollmegedon

@Kaihu:
Replaced weighted2 material references in LOD2 and LOD3 for all troll heads in this mod. Please try again and see if it is fixed now.

@medusa0: I had a check and the problem seems to be fixed for one of the trolls I was noticing it on, but there's at least one other that it still happens for. It's the one with two big horns stucking up out of its chestplate.

@Kaihu:
I made some changes to the new head variation, please give it another try to see if it is fixed!

@Kaihu:
Thank you for the report! I suspect it has something to do with one of the new head variations I implemented with edited eyes. I will look into this.

Hi, great mod, but I noticed that some trolls' heads go invisible when highlighted on the campaign map. It's only when the troll is selected/highlighted, and it doesn't happen at the highest LOD, but it happens at medium and low LOD. I think it might only happen for elemental trolls, I mainly noticed it with Ice Trolls.

any chance for Troll heros?

both elemental troll lords look wildly awesome

@Nosderim, the Wýrdbearer:
That is an interesting suggestion. While this character is a Chaos Troll, thematically it can work as Throgg can take his creations with him.
Thank you for the idea!

Is it possible to make a sub-mod that would make these apply to the Greenskins? I think it would fit very well if this mod worked alongside Autumnchain's [Wintertooth as a Greenskins Faction] I'm currently trying to figure out how to make it myself but I am very new to modding and just can't figure out how to bridge these mods together, or at the very least make this apply to the Greenskins (so that regardless it will work with the Throgg on the Greenskin's faction).

@Bendy:
That makes four then, since we already have talking River Troll Hags in Total War Warhammer 2/3, it probably isn't that far of a stretch to have semi-intelligent trolls in this setting.

theres one more chief ugma^^

@Умляут:
As far as I know lore-wise there are only three intelligent trolls: Throgg, Raak Stoneshatterer (origin of the Bile Trolls), and one unnamed Stone Troll created by Max Schreiber in one of the later Gotrek and Felix novels at the behest of Throgg - the trolls in this mod belong to the last category.

Is it lorefriendly btw?.

I was curious if this could be made for all Norscan Factions and not just Throgg. Or if you could do a submod. I love to play with Minor Factions and would be awesome to have the action. Thank you much!

Was thinking the same, love the mod. Love my trolls, just wish I could customise them a bit more with if not dedication skills then the ones like with Tomb Kings and Lizards where they've got their heritage/god skills.

What about taking on aspects of certain troll types? Ice/Snow Troll = frostbite attack/slowing aura. River/Sea Troll = aquatic, debuffing aura. Stone Troll = resistances. Lava Troll = fire attack/fire resist. Not sure about Bile Troll as it is pretty exclusive to one group of trolls before Throgg's time.
Of course there could also be a Chaos Troll = magical

I personally think you could avoid dedication skills but rather something akin to their troll like nature.

@Guv:
Initially I did not want to go too crazy with the skills as they are essentially mini-Throggs and being more powerful than their progenitor does not make sense at the time.
As Chaos trolls however, I could see some Gods dedication flavour to them, for example:
-Crow: +Regen cap, debuffing melee/aura/breath attack.
-Hound: Norsca rage ability, flaming attack, fire breath/resist? (they already can get Frenzy via background innate skill "Serial Danca")
-Eagle: Magical breath (rainbow spew!), magical attack, spell casting is probably too crazy.
-Serpent: +Speed, devastating flanker, immune to psychology, etc.
Updating the skill tree should hopefully not break the mod for existing users.

Their skill tree is rather lacking. I'd recommend adding some flavour skills between the top and the personal skills.

Really like this, poor throgg...Would also be very interested in the fimir lord option, have wanted to run pure fimir armies for a long time haha

Trolls for the Trollking - WH3 Edition does that @Beautiful Jeff Goldblum

This is really cool and something i've always wanted. I wonder if it is possible for you to expand on this and make it so Throgg can get a special building that lets him recruit all the Troll variants. Kinda weird how the Troll king can't recruit Swamp trolls or stone trolls. Lol.

@HopelessMutt:
You are very welcome!

This alone has made my Throgg campaign playable. Thanks for the awesome work!

For me, one variation would suffice. I just really wish for a Fimir generic lord, because they're really cool. I hope we get a Norsca DLC.

@Green Ramirez
We only have a handful of art assets for Fimirs to work with at this time, perhaps in the future.

Awesome! Could you also make a Fimir generic lord?