Update!

It seems like the AI isn't really using the upgrade system for Simple Planes. I tagged to UK in 1945, and they are sitting on 500 air XP with maxed doctrines, yet their Fighters only have one of each upgrade (when they have enough XP to max everything except Range and make really strong planes).

Still, it's nice to see the AI using the Simple system and at least trying to upgrade them, this is a lot better than the old model of the AI just using modular equipment. It's a shame they are still doing this for tanks and ships though.

This is one of my favorite MOD's; I am a big fan of the aircraft of that time. I usually play as the United States. However, a while after going to war with Japan in the early 1940's, if I exit the game (really, I have to sleep sometime) it encounters a fatal error when trying to load. This occurs after I select "CONTINUE" from the main menu. Selecting "LOAD" doesn't help. This still happens if Simple Planes Back + models are the only MOD's in use. Please take a look & repair as needed. Thank you.

简单飞机（警觉）

Welcome back to the modding community! I hope school is going well

Hi all,

Sorry for the long wait, school has been keeping me plenty busy but I managed to devote some time to modding recently.

As was much requested, the AI now uses the simple planes again, completing one more piece of the puzzle. Making a version of the mod that removes removes the modular planes completely will now be a lot easier, so stay tuned!

Regarding support of Kaiserreich/redux, they are fully playable with this mod enabled, but for nations that are not in vanilla some of the features do not apply (instead defaulting to BBA behaviour). Therefore Kaiserreich and redux are currently not officially supported. I am working on separate submods to address this. Having support integrated is probably not possible. (maybe i'll finally get on that RT56 submod though).

@GJC I'm happy to report the latest update does not break compatibility with your mod. also, using the Italian bomber as a transport is a nice touch.

maybe it's time to update, this and other simple tech mods keeps crashing on vanilla.

I have updated the model addon mod to include the italian transport plane, check description for the Ju 52 model mod

I've managed to set the Italian interwar bomber model to be also used as the model for their transport plane with a working supply delivering animation!

Glad it does work! I'm totally okay with it being added to the modpack, thanks for the attention!

@GJC Looks like it works, great!

I will not integrate the mod because I think you deserve the proper credit for your work, but if it's okay with you I would like to add your mod to the modpack.

There you go!

https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3214251882

I hope that helps :), and if you end up liking it you can easily integrate it into your mod, it's just a single file

It's done!

Thanks! I'm just making the final tests and then I gonna publish it :)

@GJC awesome! If you need any support from my side in terms if compatibility or making a submod just let me know

Hey! Yesterday I found a way to bring all the BBA models into the vanilla system, once I'm done (probly today) I gonna post the mod, but it will be useless without yours

cool, I'll wait for it

@DUUde No, this mod is meant to bring back the vanilla simple planes, not add anything on top of that. But if i ever make a version compatible with ultimate tech tree or rt56 i'll let you know.

@Snippps So it turns out I'm a dumb dumb and I accidentally made it so that the ai does not research any relevant ship/plane/teank technologies. so you were fighting the ai having whatever starting tech they happened to have.

I changed it so that the ai researches the free airframe technology (almost) immediately after the simple one. and that it now researches the modules correctly. sadly this means that the ai ignores the simple planes existing, but if I ever find the place where paradox hid the script that dictates that part of the beaviour I'll be sure to make the change.

Cool mod. Are you planning to develop it and extend it until the 1960s?

@Snippps I have not made any changes to the ai and to my knowledge they use the modular designs like they would if this mod was not enabled.

Truth be told I have not looked into the ai much but maybe I should take the plunge and figure out how this thing works.

I've noticed while playing with these mods for a while now that the AI unfortunately keeps producing designer equipment, even when it's strictly worse. For instance, observing Germany shows they are making Basic Naval Bomber Airframes that have 1 Naval Attack, while the Naval Bomber 1 equipment they start with has 15 Naval Attack, but isn't being built. They do the same for ships, building horrible Hulls even when they have far superior ships researched.

AI is also researching designer techs that aren't visible to players, such as Depth Charge Throwers.

I think this is why the AI performs pretty poorly with these mods, unfortunately. Designer equipment is worse than the Simple versions almost always, but the AI doesn't use any of them. This makes the player roll over any AI unfortunately. Would actually removing the designer technologies and equipment make the AI use the Simple versions, or is the issue that all the AI Plans aren't updated to account for this change?

@dinodestroyer118 ONLY THE VERSION NUMBER NEEDED UPDATING BUT THANK YOU FOR THE REMINDER

NEED UPDATE

The designer complexity (and perhaps even boredoom) were exactly what was keeping me from buying the DLCs that add those stuff, thanks for these mods!

@joris327
That would be great because too be honest it would be more enjoyable to play against a competent that could actually use this stuff

@KurdishTigers shouldn't be too difficult actually. maybe if I find the time.

@Markus_nrg Yes, the AI researches and unlocks the simple planes as if the DLC was not enabled.

AI use that variant ??

you should consider (idk how you will do it) making a version of the 3 mods that are compatible with expert ai

@ResistTheEmpire Not from my side. It shows up properly for me. are you using any other mod that mess with technology in any way shape or form?

Any reason why Japan's plane research is completely non-existant except for jet engines?

@Matt Woodcock No, sadly not.

is this mod compatible with ultimate tech tree

@Snippps That's a relief. Enjoy the mod!

Yes, now it finally works properly! Can play with By Blood Alone now, thank you for all your hard work

@Snippps @Leo Everything is fine on my end. The only thing I can think of is that the update to one of the mods did not go through properly. I have updated both mods again. Does it all work now?

Leo is right, after having resubscribed from the mods and testing individually, having Simple Tanks enabled breaks the layout for Simple Planes similar to my earlier issue

@Leo I checked and to my knowledge there aren't any issues. Can ou be more specific as to what isn't working? Are you sure you enabled both mods?

If one of the mods staight-up isn't working you might need to re-subscribe to that one.

Simple planes and simple tanks can't work together for some reason, :( can you fix it?

Update: I managed to work around the bug causing crashes and have now updated the mod.
It should now be fully working, nordic equipment icons and all. If there any issues please let me know, i'll fix them as soon as i can.

@Snippps That is unfortunate. Since 1.13.4 I have however run into an issue with the development version of the mod and it now crashes on startup. Until i can fix it I cannot update the mod...

This one doesn't seem to be working anymore, the layout is broken and CAS isn't visible :(

please update the mod with tanks

Thanks a lot!

@222222222222222222222222 So turns out you're right and there are a bunch of icons I didn't know existed hidden in the dlc files. I'll start working on an update.

icons are missing Self-propelled artillery and anti-tank self-propelled artillery, Self-propelled anti-aircraft gun

@222222222222222222222222 I'm assuming you're talking about the simple tanks back mod. I'm not aware of any issues with the icons. Can you be more specific?

can you solve the problem with the self-propelled artillery icon

@ethanace01 No plans, since the eaw tree is diffrent enough that making a submod is not a trivial thing to do. If I do end up doing it, it will be after a rt56 version at least.

any plans to make it work with Equestria at war?