Went to place the crying jester picture and it vanished. Got everything else done but it simply fell into the void and could not longer complete it. Kinda sucks because its what we did last.

In the math portal, I can't figure out how to turn the Purple Ring. Also, it's strange where the points are to turn the rings. You should be able to just click on the ring to get it to move. A shame, because it looks like this was going to be a fun room///

I seem to be stuck in the graveyard room... I thought i had it wrong and checked the solution.. my answers are correct, but nothing has happened.

also, pictures still fall into the void.

Terrible experience. Felt more like a vocabulary test than anything. If youre not a native english speaker or dont want to do a graded test, dont play this.

Really well made!

@Jukehz: Thanks for reporting this. I have reworked the setup once more and it really shouldn't happen any longer now.
@Fish: Also changed the flag to the Stars and Stripes.

On the poetry portal one of the items falls through the floor and you get stuck unable to complete room.

Loved it!

I'd recommend every room maker play through this room to see some clever design ideas implemented--the "printable" and pinnable family tree first among them.

I'd recommend nobody put any effort into any of the puzzles herein expecting the payoff to have been worth the effort. It's like doing basic arithmetic exercises with a 200lb pencil or something--you'll work hard and you won't feel clever at the end of it.

At least the hints and walkthroughs are well implemented and thorough.

It's hard even if you look at the answer.

You might want to change the language flags from the Union Jack to the Stars and Stripes - Ladybug is the American term, in the UK we use Ladybird

@Reversinator: Thanks for letting me know. Fixed it.

I think I softlocked myself. Beyond the poetry portal, , I accidentally dropped an item and it fell through the floor. Can't pick it up at all. It's simple enough to restart, just tedious. https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/id/rgdtt/screenshot/2023853171809848341/ (second item was to test how reproducible it is)

@Wollo: Thank you for the clarification!

@BunnyBoogers: You have seen two centuries of you were born in one century and died in another. For example, if you were born in 1967 and died in 2013, you lived to see two centuries, the 20th and 21st.

I'm confused by the clue: "I lived to see two centuries"

Unless I went full stoopid a century is 100 years, correct? Deducing that, at BEST, that would mean someone was born in, say 1899, and died after 2000. Martha was only alive from 1943-2017, so how is that two centuries? I has much confuse.

@Wollo yeah i figured it out, i was using one the 3 book that was to open the graveyard portal. my mistake!

@Znapper: I'm pretty sure the fairy tales portal works fine, no-one has reported issues so far. I've also retested to make sure I find no problems.
Have you checked the solutions? Also, for some reason, players keep mixing up the first two fairy tales (left to right, it's Goldilocks and the Three Bears, Little Red Riding Hood, and Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs ). Could that have happened to you?

i've restarted a few times but the fairy tales portal never opens for me. other than that, this is a really cool build

I have updated the blood relatives clue to eliminate the ambiguity and included a pictogram.
@the_vivster: Sorry that this happened. Normally, such items are automatically returned to you. If not, there is nothing I can do about it, I'm afraid.
@Greater Than Less Than: Good point, I've added that to the clues.
@Great Wight Spark: I was not aware of the British/American difference here, thanks for letting me know!

We played all the way until we got to through the poetry portal.. one of the pictures just fell through the floor and we weren't able to complete the rest of the room :(

For the math puzzle, a hint of a + b = c - d before the solution may be worthwhile, I at least was trying to solve a + b = c, c - d = a the whole time

Very well made room, although it has a few hiccups. I've agreed with someone below about the graveyard, and my other issue is that you've used the Union Standard (UK flag) and used the American English term for ladybird (ladybug).

@H2G so did I. The earliest member died a year after the graveyard was established, so it made sense to have him as founder. Maybe the clue should read "I established this graveyard for my parents, and any of my blood relatives."

Fun room!
I think the problem with the graveyard clue is saying "NOT ONLY" can be read to mean "including by marriage but that's not the only way". This is why @Falco says it contradicts the example which says your wife is not by blood.

That was the most beautiful puzzle I've played so far, really crisp assets and intelligent design. One of the hardest I've encountered too.

I enjoyed this very much despite some wording oddities as folks have already mentioned. I was unable to complete bcuz the number sphere has so many moving parts that I had trouble finding and moving the color strip I wanted while being able to see what I was doing. May just be me since others have obviously managed it. Nice job tho!

@ConsumePant: That is already the case for all key items by default. If you throw them over the edge, they will return to your inventory (or, in multiplayer, to the hosting player's inventory). Just retested and confirmed that it works for the spoonerism images, too.

needs to be a way to get back lost photos on the pill dill puzzle. cause its easy to throw a piece off the edge

In that case my compliments. I thoroughly enjoyed it!

@Vobbert: Thank you, glad you enjoyed it.
I don't think that kind of puzzle exists outside this room. I'm proud to say that I came up with the spoonerism puzzle idea without an external prototype.

I really loved this room! It was a lot of fun. Quick question, any idea what type of puzzle the room was where you had to match two pictures based on the rhyming two word descriptions where the first letters were switched ? I'd love to find some more puzzles like that but I can't figure out how to find them without the proper name for it.

That makes more sense.

@Brian Kuhn: No, it's 3+2 = 8-3
You can read it as an infinite circle: 3+2 = 8-3 = 3+2 = 8-3 = 3+2 = 8-3 = 3+2 = 8-3 = ...

3+2=8? 8-3=3? What's up with that?

Bf & I really enjoyed the map! Took us longer at the graveyard puzzle, we both got a li'l dizzy :D
Overall, love the puzzles!

@Falco: Thanks! The blood relative thing is probably the hardest bit of the room. I might have to consider rewording it again.
I don't think the definitions contradict one another. Your brother's wife is not a blood relative because the relation is purely through marriage (i.e. if your brother were not married to his wife, you would not be related at all).
An example of a blood relative regardless of marriage would be your grandmother: It does not matter if your grandparents are married, they are still both blood relatives to you.
The same applies to relatives that are further removed, like the parents of your brother's wife (no blood) or the second marriage children of you grandmother (blood).

Great puzzle. One thing I struggled with was The definition of blood relative. Wanted to confirm how the wives are handled as "blood relative" in the hint book. It contains two confusing sentences.

"A blood relative is a person that is related NOT ONLY through marriage..."

next paragraph contradicts this:

"...your wife and your brother's wife are not your blood relative..."

still another 10/10 room

Thank you @lisaanne3 and @flyingpinkmonkeys - I've improved the hint wording and added an icon that shows the position of the portal relative to the numbers.

Loved it but the 2 does not face away from the portal, spent too long trying to get the one with it's back to the portal to be a 2

Love the concept!

This was a fantastic room. The puzzles were a lot of fun! The only one that tripped me up was the math ball. Your hint says that "the 2 faces away from the portal". I believe the opposite is true though. The 2 faces the portal.

Thank you, @Wollo. Your new helper text for the math ball was really helpful, and I discovered that I could walk into the ball which helped a lot. I thought I had to do it all from the pathway outside which made it stupidly more difficult the last time I tried. LOL. I finally finished this room and I loved all the puzzles. So much fun. Thank you!

Wow I love this! The only thing that stumped me is family tree. Cos I had wrong established graveyard member, usually I assumed the earliest member

Love the spoonerisms

Thanks all for the feedback, I'm glad you like the room!
@Monkey_Chicka: I have made the math ball solution clearer.
@Graveeater: I have improved the explanation - I'm afraid it's a tough concept to explain in few words.
@Mr. Beef: fixed

Most thought provoking puzzles I've seen playing this game! My favorites were the poetry puzzle and family tree puzzle

Excellent room, the puzzles are interesting, just right difficulty, good job!

excellent, really love the 'one for the road' lol

I think the definition of blood relative in the "non-english speaker help" is not good.
It says your parents and children bit does not mention your siblings.