he is far too strong, you can't punish any of his moves

Dopest character around with definitely the craziest movement tech in a character. I don't think she's broken, but she does really put you in your place if you're just mashing (I figured that out through the CPU lol). On some custom stages, she does have a chance to just dash off and kill herself when you're offstage because she's too busy movement teching all over you and the stage, but apart from that she's also probably the best programmed cpu in this game. Fantastic mod!

can you give her a wall climb/cling but shorter than celeste's original wall climb/cling time

she has like no startup lag how is that fair

This ai is so much fun to fight against oml

I keep just barely managing to scrape by each time, incredible work

This character is awesome. You could say it's a shame that there isn't more inspiration from Celeste/Towerfall for all of her moves, but I think the choices they made were more to enhance the really important things instead of trying to cram in things that don't really make sense (like say, summoning Mr Oshiro for f smash or dust bunny nair idk). This version of her leans entirely into her movement options, which I would share here but character limit lmao

So in practice, this character is awesome. I also like her in-game sprite; it's different from the regular pixel style, but it's still cute in its own right and gives her movement a little more style. I think my main issue design-wise is that I just don't like the character-select sprite. (Again, details can't be shared because character limit.) The Badeline sprite looks sick as hell though, and I can just use another alt if I don't like the base one (for example, I really like the Crafter and Education alts).

her ai is so devious man 😭

Whoa, okay, I’ve been playing around with this Madeline for a little bit now. Had no idea it was by Amanita’s creator. I sometimes forget to check the authors of these things; and this person actually made a few mods I use. I love these sprites; and her recovery is… a lot. lol.

Awesome mod

I don't go around hating, especially because this is "high quality". Although I can't fathom how you thought this moveset was even remotely considerable. It's basically the spiritual successor to Melee's Fox McCloud, with every instance of bullshit, amplified to hell, an absolute speed demon.

I commend you for making the CPU actually good though, makes the bullshit egregiously obvious.

And her uncharacteristic smug profile. Borderline offensive , congratulations.

honestly. madeline, is a pretty cool name. if i ever heave a daughter, imma name her madeline.
either that, or sabrina.
or maybe abigail.
or possibly peach.
you know.
like the princess.

Not sure if it's intentional, but I believe if you manage to slide off the stage while doing a heavy attack, if continues to hold the attack, rather than cancelling it. Don't know for sure, but I'm just letting ya know incase this isn't intentional, yet is actually happening!

@KASU HEARTS Nevermind! I saw a reply to someone saying you were working on Runes and stuffs for her, for movement. I wish you luck for that!

@KASU HEARTS Do you ever plan on somehow adding some sort of wavedash gimmick for her, using her Special dashes? Similar to the ones that speedrunners use, and the ones used in most of the endgame of Celeste. I dunno, I just think it could be fun, to reach an opponent who might be trying to camp you out, if they're spamming overpowered dash attacks, or if their projectiles overpower her arrows-

I downloaded and forgot about this character till I set a cpu to lvl 9 random and got my ass kicked, ty for the surprise!

@Gandrake

Yep! you nailed it! It was very important to me that Madeline had more than one representation on workshop. I wanted to treat my version as if it was a full on guest character for the base roster. Paying tribute to the feeling of an air dashing heroine while also still playing by the same rules as the base cast, similar to Shovel Knight and Ori.

In this way both mods are for different audiences, tastes, and representation purposes.

Man, I'm not sure which Maddy I like more.

I like the sprite of this more, even if the other is more faithful to the game. The moves of the other are more representative of Celeste, however, even if this one's less silly. Using the dodge to take up her dashes for the other mod and freeing up her special button was pretty clever, too.

Hmm, which one...

all the attacks you make with this character have a 41% probability of damaging yourself

Still loving this iteration of Maddy 8 months later.

If there was one nerf she should could get, it would be to make her unable to use Neutral-Special when a crystal is already out. It is a little silly how disjointed and powerful it is, and I think this would open opportunities of counter-play for the opponent. It may also encourage Maddy players to use the crystal with her Dash, to maximize it's utility.

cpu kicked my ass but i still somehow won

can you tell me the alt references?

when you're changing colors to Madeline, I get an error and you have to close the game, I don't know if it only happens to me but it's weird.

It sometimes feels like she just doesn't have hit stun. Still running a lot of tests on her.

it would be nice to see some advenced tech from the game in this character like wawedashing and wallbouncing like in the other madeline character and possibly climbing if it isnt too overpowered

@mixboy203
At the moment, Tournament Organizers think she is currently fine. So I won't be doing any nerfing unless something specifically comes up that would disrupt those tournaments.

Anyone else thinks she needs nerfing or am I just bad at platform fighters?

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Originally posted by neurosis51
Ok, Maddy has crazy disjoints and kill power on strongs due to her stand and little recovery on most of the other attacks, but again the most criminal thing is the N-special it beats most options (aside from waiting or parrying) with how large and disjointed the hitbox is and is also active forever; it does every function you would want except kill at reasonable percents. I couldn't confirm, but it seems to give invincibility on startup too which would also be more overkill.

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Originally posted by Baitofqualitycooking
(...) her damage output thanks to how spastic you can get is very high, and this means she can K.O. you in a matter of seconds.
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Madeline is a great character, but she is just not fun to fight against, and I think this is very detrimental to the character overall

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And yes I know it says on the mod page here that it's a Towerfall reference but I saw this character and immediately went to check her out in game, I was too hype to be reading lol

At first I was like "who gave this child a bow?" then I remembered she's in Towerfall, sweet reference!

Madeline Stand user confirmed.

badeline the stand
incredible

I didn't read that her AI was modified when set on level 9, so I made a hasty judgement, do forgive my mistake for not checking first.

That said, she's still cracked as hell in non-ai play.

@Baitofqualitycooking

Forgive me for asking but in what regard? Are you referring to her gameplay from one human player to another? Or are you referring to playing against her AI? Is there perhaps more information you can give me to justify the strong words like "horrible job everywhere else"?

Just so you know, Madeline is currently only a month into WS, but Tournament organizers have already been giving her a chance to compete in the meta. She is legal in the following brackets, and currently without issue:

Workshop Elite
The Lotus Clash
Workshop Weeklies
Fungal Wastes
Universal Collision

ON TOP of recently being Legalized at Vortex Gallery. A larger tournament with a 400+ dollar prize pool.

I'm going to need hard evidence that she is broken in order to make any changes based on your concerns.

Don't take this as me dismissing your feedback. I just need actual details.

Very good job at the spriting, sfx, and references to the game, but horrible job everywhere else.
her damage output thanks to how spastic you can get is very high, and this means she can K.O. you in a matter of seconds.

This suffers the problem of that many high skill ceiling characters and weapons in many games suffer from. That High-skill ceiling justifies the boons you get from mastering it.
This isn't good, a person who masters Madeline will have their gameplay looking like Ronald Mcdonald's, cracked, incredibly few counterplay options, and overall just not FUN unless you are memeing on your opponent.

Madeline is a great character, but she is just not fun to fight against, and I think this is very detrimental to the character overall

Ok, Maddy has crazy disjoints and kill power on strongs due to her stand and little recovery on most of the other attacks, but again the most criminal thing is the N-special it beats most options (aside from waiting or parrying) with how large and disjointed the hitbox is and is also active forever; it does every function you would want except kill at reasonable percents. I couldn't confirm, but it seems to give invincibility on startup too which would also be more overkill.

all workshop ai should be coded by pejota, level 9 madeline is wild

they added trans people to rivals of aether holy shit

@The Ogrelord
there will be a lot of future evaluation of things she'll be allowed to do so i encourage everyone to stay tuned to her eventual update! At the moment she's sitting tight to settle for a bit as she becomes legalized for brackets. Thanks for the comments everyone!

This is an awesome rendition of Madeline, very simple on the surface but has a decent skill cieling which is very fitting considering the game she comes from. The only thing I'd change/add is allowing you to perform superdashes by jumping after dashing sideways or at a downwards diagonal angle onto terrain and then jump-cancelling it. It would be cool if you could do it on walls too but Madeline's recovery is already very good so that would probably be too much.

Jeez, 98 ratings in less than a week, this is the most popular mod since Eustace Bagge.

train gender

trans gender :)

@Reforged bro.... thank you so much. I've been wating for SOMETHING Towerfall related on here. FINALLY!!!!

@firen013 it is a towerfall reference! Shes playable in the switch version so i thought it'd be cool!

Wait a minute. I haven't played this Celeste yet, I'm downloading this to surprise a friend. Does Madeline actually have a bow? Or is that a reference to Towerfall? please let it be a towerfall reference

celet

WWHOOOOOO YEAAAAA BAYBEEEE THAT'S WHAT WE'VE BEEN WAITING FOR THAT'S WHAT IT'S ALL ABOUT

thanks, this is my favorite char now

this is the best mod of all time thank you so much

I fucking love this char

Hmm, that N-special seems pretty overtuned with how disjointed and how active the hitbox is. Essentially a free approach and combo starter that ignores neutral with how you can quickly dash in keeping all with your momentum to catch the opponent.