It is literally vanilla subs with mechtrauma stuff, so I dont see reasons to incompatible

are these subs not compatible with real sonar?

Can you include the shuttles?, and possibly add some variety to the ships, like they all use nuclear reactors no diesel or the other mechtrauma stuff.

you missing stuff because you using outdated version

brother, please read requirements, IT IS MECHTRAUMA UNSTABLE, NOT ALPHA

when i would spawn a submarine in objects would be missing like the navigation terminal

what do you mean?

theres stuff missing in the submarines like navigation terminal

Now updated and got reactor on most of subs

as for orca and other subs with variations of cnc - gonna fix it when im home

they would progress + i assume they will read manual of alpha version since there are no subs by default

btw, Orca 2's CNC is broken because it's the bugged version

Well, it's partially Mechtraumatized, but you definitely didn't make it clear that it's not complete.

New players will think that Mechtrauma includes only what tier 1 has to offer, because how would new players know Steam Powertrains exist?

oh cmon, i can post pictures in collection but they literally gonna be same kind of stuff


Anyways, i never claimed mod to be full mechtrauma either. All it has is in its name is vanilla subs mechtraumized and i think i managed to do just that.

>It literally has 3 subs in description that should give you an understanding of how each tier looks like

Do you know that meme with an Asian guy in a red shirt trying to read a tiny piece of paper with squinted eyes?

You're asking me to find something that isn't there. If you added someting like "This pack is for educational purposes. Cheaper submarines don't use all the features of Mechtrauma", I wouldn't be here.

It literally has 3 subs in description that should give you an understanding of how each tier looks like

Ok, it's your mod. And yeah, I missed the reminder to turn on the batteries, that's my fault.

I read the description again and I still see nothing that mentions simplification, guiding or being easy.
There's also no mention that tier 1 subs have no powertrain and that only tier 3 subs have everything, so we've rightfully assumed that your subs are either unfinished or broken due to missing functionality.

Bro, it isn't mentioned anywhere that this collection is for newcomers. Modding isn't for newcomers. Mechtrauma isn't for newcomers.
Most ships in this collection are SIMPLIFIED Mechtrauma.


bro read description, i thought i made it clear

I know what you meant by auto-charge and i dont want to see it on my conversion project

as for progression and lack of full mechtrauma subs: that's entirely mine choice on how i want subs to be done and in what progression stage. my subs are made purely for education purposes a. k. a gradually learning all mechtrauma stuff.


if you wish to make conversion of subs by yourself - you can use my mechtraumizer that lies in mechtrauma discord which will speed up process drastically

Also by the way, auto-charging means the generator disables automatically when the battery array charges fully to conserve power. Chandler's Dugong for MT Alpha uses that. Also, Chandler's Dugong has the powertrain.

If you wish, there could be a simplified Dugong version and a full Dugong version. For better ships there could be a reactor version and a diesel engine version. You can't satisfy everyone with 1 version, of course.

IMO people who want to try Mechtrauma want the full experience and your logic is backwards.

1. Advanced submarines (like all vehicles) are supposed to be better and easier to use, NOT more tedious and hard to use. You're paying more so you're expecting something more advanced.
2. Expensive ships being harder to use discourages players from switching to bigger subs. You'll want to stick to your Dugong for as long as you can, as it's less tedious to maintain in this mod. Then you upgrade to another tier 1 sub without the Steam Powertrain. Because it's simpler.
3. Advanced ships should deteriorate more slowly than cheap ships.

And by the way, there are no fully-Mechtraumatized subs for Unstable on the whole workshop (except for your tier 3 subs).

Bro, it isn't mentioned anywhere that this collection is for newcomers. Modding isn't for newcomers. Mechtrauma isn't for newcomers.
Most ships in this collection are SIMPLIFIED Mechtrauma.

yeah, I didn't know I had to enable the battery array on Dugong

Also dont forget that you gotta enable battery power via button next to nav

bro, first of all dugong not even supposed to have auto-charge stuff, that's stuff for pussies and if you found some - you probably refer to vanilla system that's for changing colors when charge is low

second: this collection is created as guide for newcomers to mech + i aint showing powertrain into dugong's booty


1 tier - only really basic stuff, no steam train
2 tier - more stuff to play with like water gates but still not much
3 tier - all features including stuff like central pumps

ugh

Also, Dugong is broken - the generator is supposed to turn off once the battery gets charged. It's wired in a wrong way from what the host found out.

Also, most subs don't have boilers, turbines, driveshafts, oil storage or argon stations...

Dugong has no power and its engine is vanilla. Are you sure this is for Mechtrauma Unstable?

Логично

IRON в моем модпаке нету, тут только ванильные

Паровые двигатели не везде помещаются (нет, я не буду делать их 0.2 размера) + лодки первого и второго класса должны быть обучением перед третьим)

Ура почти все лодки работают на нестабильной версии(кроме IRON). Слушай есть проблема на кастрюле не могу подняться с лестницы в комнате с двигателем. Кстати почему ты решил сделать только на половине подлодок слелать паровой двигатель? Допустим на верблюде там мог поместится паровой двигатель.

Хм.. ща скачаю

Огромная: Unstable имеет в себе кучу фиксов, новый контент, а так же гибкую настройку мода через новое меню. Хоть чисто длительность 1 банки увеличь, хоть весь мод перелопать.

Жаль. А есть ли в них разница?

так что нет, я не буду переделывать лодки обратно под альфц

Alpha is outdated
Unstable is what aplha will be when 1.0 comes out

Can you change(upgrade) of Mechtrauma Unstable to Mechtrauma Alpha?