FailSafe : sadly, yes

Not sure if this has been brought up, but a fairly major problem with the caravans is how the caravan army affects the factions diplomacy strength rank, making diplomacy overly easy in the early game with factions without caravans... is this known about and unfixable, or...?

Just mentioning that the mod 'Exalted Greater Daemons of Chaos (Warriors Of Chaos)' has become broken over the past few patches and now breaks a whole lot of scripts including the caravans, resulting in caravans without units. Spent some time singling it out and thought I'd share if others use the mod as well.

@Speculumundi : the mod uses its own units only with MCT option "Caravans not affects unit caps". otherwise it uses vanilla units. This option should be active before start of new campaign because it not affect the existing caravans

Hey there! First, I very much appreciate your work. I think it's well executed and I consider this mod and its add-ons a must-have for every campaign. Now, I noticed something that might be off. I'm working on a rework of the Dwarfs which uses unit allowances like the Chorfs. These however count Thunderers from caravan armies, even though, as is my understanding, your mod uses custom unit keys rather than the vanilla ones for the caravan units. I think I verified this by deleting a unit of Thunderers from a caravan which freed up one allowance. This does not happen with other units. Also, I'm using my own unit list for the allowances, so there shouldn't be a mix-up coming from my mod. I can't find where perhaps the vanilla Thunderers unit might have slipped into the caravans. Could you have a look at that? I would very much appreciate it!

@Duke : Thorek doesn't have access to caravans from turn 1 by default. to get it you should form a confederation with another dwarf faction with caravans or set MCT option "Caravans for player" to "force enable"

Doesn't work for Ironbrow, I can't see the icon on the right

@Kroq-Gar : all Empire factions can use caravans

havent played with this mod yet, i assume when im playing as Ostermark or any other imperial princedom i cant use caravans - since they are not named? - do you plan to add them?

Encountered a crash tonight when an event came up playing as Karl Franz for a Kislev unit based caravan to recruit lost allied units. My options were two empire spearmen units or two free company units. I choose the two spearmen units and the game crashed. Never ever experienced a crash like this with your mod before.

@REITERPALLASCH : the crash had been fixed in 6.1.5

Hey does anybody know if the crash associated with seabound caravans and Immortal Empires expanded has been dealt with?

Found the culprit, it actualy was the Araby mod, once I removed it both the forge and the caravan appeared again

Didn´t work, I´ve done many different tries and the forge is always gone, only when I remove this mod it comes back, and I don´t have any other specific caravan mod (maybe it´s the araby mod creating a conflict as it has caravans?)and I only have unique faction UI

@danihunter1 : try this mod

Is it me or this mod removes the dwarff forge and doesnt let you interact with it cause the caravan takes its place?

That was crazy quick! Thanks! Now everything works! :)

@david.vicr : fixed

Every time i enable this mod i get a crash report.. :(
Unsub and resínstalling didnt work..

The following mods cause a crash to the Database:
twill_old_world_caravans.pack

The fist invalid database record is owc_main_anc_enchanted_item_jar_of_all_soulswh3_main_effect_replenishment_lords_heros_self_text in table ancillary_to_effects_tables and pack file twill_old_world_caravans.pack

The application will terminate now.

@ωうさぎωニャω : sure, why not

@TWilliam
Sir Author!
We would like to attempt to enhance your (Old World Caravan mod).
Could you grant us permission?

I would like to create a new mod and use your mod as a base for modification (if you can accept it, I will try to make the changes).

(However, my friend and I cannot understand your structure, so during the attempt process)

@JediLordNathan : Marieburg mod changes the icon for Empire factions, yes

I'm a dingus I forgot the Empire has a unique icon for the caravans that others don't have

Tested with Gelt, Empires Expanded, and Radious. Works great. Took a few turns for the option to show up. Awesome work TWilliam. Thank you

@JediLordNathan : it looks like only you have this issue. Most likely a mods conflict

Well when I started a new Empire campaign the caravan option and the UI to send one was missing entirely.

@JediLordNathan : can you explain what exactly is broken?

Need's an update new Old World update borked it

hey seems to work again thank the great horned rat

specifically for vlad

hey man can you do one for sylvania? love playing the vamps but they have barebones mechanics and this would spice them up a bit. if you have a paypal id send cash to lol

@Vorgryn : only convoys

Does this mod cause crash on 6.1.4 or is it just the convoy mods?

@Herls : yes, I know about this issue

```I'm close to thinking it's a naval caravan node that is causing the issue. I played as Marienburg, and the loading savefile caused CTD when the caravan is located at the sea. Same for the Torinubar.

If I quote my official statement from my brain: (aka I made this up)
To cope with some Ogre Camp situations, CA changed so that Ogre Camp now gets its position dynamically changed on load.,
However, due to this, the caravan is also affected. (Has the same fixed camp stance),
While this method doesn't become a problem on land, it becomes a problem when the force is located at sea.,
Vanilla doesn't have a sea caravan node, so it is not a problem. However, Marienburg's 3 trade routes' sea node composition is about 70% or more. Becoming a problem. This is the cause of the crash with Marienburg. Or most likely the cause."

I hope this helps

Hello @TWilliam. I just wanted to make you aware of an issue that was discovered in Da Modding Den discord.

The fix that CA implemented to fix the Ogre Camp spawns has broken sea yrade nodes since they were not created by CA. This has broken all mods that use sea nodes like the SCM Marienburg mod and I assume yours.

I'm going to quote Rhox, a major modder on the SCM team in a separate comment because its to long.

@TWilliam: gotcha thanks man

@O'Kais : it is a conflict with some other mod. Someone already posted this issue but I couldn't help

Experiencing unavoidable crashes upon finishing a battle with a convoy.

@LOLOlex : you don't have the ogres dlc

I think there's a bug in the Empire Caravan Master with the Monopolista trait because I should have Ironguts and Leadbelchers but they did not show up

Although all other extra units (Bretonnia, Dwarfs, High Elves etc...) show up

@BrotherCaptainCog : you don't need a submod to use this mod with sfo

Is there a sfo sub mod?

Hello. Can you make a mod that adds the Schemes and Monstrous Arcanum mechanics to other factions? I only need quest battles from these mechanics.

@PumpkinCz : if you don't have any settlement - conquer the first one. If you added this mod on existing save game - wait 1 turn. If not one of these cases - post your faction and campaign names

I have a problem. When I click the caravan menu there isn´t the plus button that lets me actuallyrecruit one.. any fix?

@陈子龙 : this mod does not affect the Chas dwarfs' convoys at all

Is the Chaos Dwarf faction forgotten in the latest version? As I remember, the Chaos Dwarfs could also obtain item and unites rewards before, but now I can't.

Bug fixed good work

@Mattis : you get a special resources for "rituals" in the forge menu